How many 2x great-grandchildren of Queen Victoria are living?

[bx...@yahoo.com]

With the passing of HM, how many 2x great-grandchildren of Queen Victoria are still living?

Thanks.

Brooke

[Brian Coleman]

by my calculation 52

[jksutherl...@gmail.com]

61 / 142 according to this:

https://www.unofficialroyalty.com/great-great-grandchildren-of-queen-victoria/ 

The youngest is Elizabeth Ramsay, born 1963

The oldest is Lady Pamela Hicks (née Mountbatten), born 1929

[bx...@yahoo.com]

Thank you!

Brooke

[colinp]

I make them 55 ! (apologies if some of the foreign titles are wrong...)

1. Queen Sofia of Spain 02/11/1938
2. King Constantine II of Greece 2/6/1940
3. Princess Irene of Greece 11/5/1942
4. Countess Elisabeth of Oppersdorff 8/10/1940
5. Princess Dorothea of Windisch-Graetz 24/7/1934
6. Prince Rainer of Hesse 18/11/1939
7. Clarissa Derrien 6/2/1944
8. The Duke of Gloucester 26/8/1944
9. The Duke of Kent 9/10/1935
10. Princess Alexandra 25/12/1936
11. Prince Michael of Kent 4/7/1942
12. Princess Astrid of Norway 12/2/1932
13. King Harald V of Norway 21/2/1937
14. Lady Pamela Hicks 19/4/1929
15. Baroness Alexandra von Baillou 21/5/1935
16. Archduke Dominic of Austria-Tuscany 4/7/1937
17. Baroness Maria Magdalena von Holzhausen 2/10/1939
18. Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna of Russia 23/12/1953
19. Gerarda Saint 25/8/1939
20. Countess Beatriz dei Farini 27/4/1943
21. Prince Alvaro-Jaime of Orleans-Borbon 1/3/1947
22. Margareta Ambler 31/10/1934
23. Princess Birgitta of Hohenzollern 19/1/1937
24. Baroness Desiree Silfverschiold 2/6/1938
25. Christina Magnuson 3/8/1943
26. King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden 30/4/1946
27. Count Michael Bernadotte 21/8/1944
28. Queen Margrethe II of Denmark 16/4/1940
29. Princess Benedikte of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg 29/4/1944
30. Queen Anne Marie of Greece 30/8/1946
31. Hon Mrs Katharine Fraser 11/10/1957
32. Hon Mrs Alice Ramsey 8/7/1961
33. Hon Elizabeth Ramsay 15/4/1963
34. Anne Liddell-Grainger 28/7/1932
35. Elizabeth Wise 5/9/1936
36. Marianne Nielsen 5/4/1933
37. Prince Ernst Leopoldo of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha 14/1/1935
38. Prince Peter of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha 12/6/1939
39. Count Bertram of Castell-Rudenhausen 12/7/1932
40. Victoria Huntington-Whiteley 26/2/1935
41. Calma Berger 18/11/1938
42. Dagmar Walz 22/11/1940
43. Prince Andreas of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha 21/3/1943
44. Claudia Schafer 22/5/1949
45. Princess Beatrice of Saxe-Meiningen 15/7/1951
46. Robin Bryan 20/12/1957
47. Prince Marco Torlonia 2/7/1937
48. Olimpia Weiller 27/12/1943
49. Countess Vittoria Alvarez 5/3/1941
50. Donna Giovanni Galobart 31/1/1943
51. Donna Maria Teresa de Arana Arana 4/1/1945
52. Anna Sandra Stavro Santarosa 21/12/1948
53. Infanta Maria del Pilar of Spain 30/7/1936
54. King Juan Carlos I of Spain 5/1/1938
55. Infanta Margarita of Spain 6/3/1939

[Brian Coleman]

Number 17former Archduchess Marie of Austria died August 2021

[BREMENMURRAY]

No 53 Infanta Maria Pilar died in 2020  

[Ivan Prekajski]

NO 37 Prince Ernst Leopoldo of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha 14/1/1935 committed suicide in 1996.

[BREMENMURRAY]

The original answer 52 seems to be correct

[bx...@yahoo.com]

I'm trying to update this list, and have found several who have died and 2 that seem to be missing.

Those who have died:

#2 King Constantine II in 2023

#3 Ps. Irene in 2026

#17 Baroness Maria Magdalena in 2020

#23 Princess Birgitta in 2024

#43 Prince Andreas in 2025

#44 Claudia Schafer in 2016

#47 Prince Marco Torlonia in 2014

#53 Infanta Maria del Pilar in 2020

The two that I have on my list, and for whom I could find no date of death are a brother and a sister who would fit in between #17, the late Baroness Maria Magdalena, and #18, Grand Duchess Maria Vladmirovna.

They are Ps. Marie-Cecile of Prussia (b. 1942), who is/was married to Duke Friedrich August of Oldenburg, and her younger brother, Prince Christian-Sigismund of Prussia (b. 1946).

Does anyone know if they are still living, and if anyone else on the list has died?

Thanks.

Brooke

[Brian Coleman]

by my calculation there are 46 still alive as of today

[bx...@yahoo.com]

Hi Brian.

I have 48 still living-- the 46 from the list, plus the two that I mentioned.

Where do we differ?

Brooke

[BREMENMURRAY]

Number five Princess Dorothea and number twenty three Princess Desiree of Sweden have both died

[BREMENMURRAY]

Prince Christian Sigismund of Prussia is still alive and no evidence online that Princess Marie-Cecile has died.Both should be added to the list

[bx...@yahoo.com]

Hi BRMENMURRAY.

Thanks for the information.

#5 Princess Dorothea died in 2025.

#23 Princess Desiree died in 2026.

That would indeed put the total at 46, including Princess Marie-Cecile and Prince Christian-Sigismund.

[bx...@yahoo.com]

I am slowly trying to wind my way through Victoria's descendants, with the hope, at some point,  of putting together a list of her living direct descendants.

I believe there are 3 more generations to go through.

Brooke

[colinp]

Prince Christian Sigismund of Prussia and Princess Marie-Cecile of Prussia (now Duchess of Oldenburg) are 3x great grandchildren not 2x

[Brian Coleman]

No they are the grandchildren of Pss Victoria Melita of Saxe Coburg Gotha (formerly Edinburgh )

[Brian Coleman]

and Great Grandchildren of the Kaiser on their Fathers side 

[colinp]

Thank you. I forgot there was a closer matrilinear descent

[bx...@yahoo.com]

I am basing my list on  DPB 2008, the last edition which featured the descendants of Queen Victoria.  I'm just going by the years of birth and death, not the actual dates.

So far, I have found 2 mistakes of note, for a mother and son, descendants of Prince Leopold, 1st Duke of Albany.

Princess Karoline Mathilde of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha is shown with a YOD of 1982.  The correct YOD is 1983.

Her son from her second marriage, Peter Michael Schnirring, is shown with a YOB of 1940.  The correct YOB is 1943.

Brooke

[BREMENMURRAY]

Prince Christian Sigismund and Princess Marie-Cecile are first cousins of the Duchess of Wellington

[BREMENMURRAY]

With the demise of number thirty five on the list there are now 45 surviving Princess Astrid of Norway being the oldest

[sven_me...@web.de]

I'm still waiting for an answer