Abel Smith/Pearson

[Michael Rhodes]

The engagement was announced 3 September, 2008 between Ned Abel Smith,
scion of that LG family, eldest son of Robert Abel Smith, of Througham
Slad, Gloucestershire, and Lindy Brockway, of Parsons Green, London,
and the Hon Eliza Anne Venetia Pearson (b 1988), eldest daughter of
the 4th Viscount Cowdray (b 17 Jun 1944), of Cowdray Park, West
Sussex, by his 2nd wife the former Marina Rose Cordle (descended from
the Viscounts Powerscourt).

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[Michael Rhodes]

On 3 Sep, 03:44, Michael Rhodes <mig73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

> The engagement was announced 3 September, 2008 between Ned Abel Smith,
> scion of that LG family, eldest son of Robert Abel Smith, of Througham
> Slad, Gloucestershire, and Lindy Brockway, of Parsons Green, London,

Ned is the great-great grandson of the 2nd Baron Raglan - and the
Raglans are
scions of the Dukes of Beaufort.

==

[PThe...@kc.rr.com]

Can you show the descent from Lord Raglan? I can't make the
connection. Thanks!


On Sep 3, 12:23 pm, Michael Rhodes <mig73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

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> - Show quoted text -

[Allan Raymond]

Paul

Purely a guess

2nd Baron Raglan
daughter
Violet Elizabeth Katharine Somerset married Wilfrid Robert Abel Smith
son
Wilfrid Lyulph Abel Smith
son
Robert Ralph Abel Smith
son
Possibly Ned Abel Smith

Reference for the details other than Ned Abel Smith from
http://www.william1.co.uk/w12.html

Allan Raymond

[Shinjinee]

For a portrait of the happy fiancee, and more details, see down this
page
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1052292/Boris-girl-Russian-divorce.html

Ned Abel Smith, ten years Eliza's senior (i.e, aged 30 and born circa
1988) is the son of Lindy Brockway, alias Lindi Branson, a sister of
Sir Richard Branson. Eve is Sir Richard's mother, nee Huntley-Flindt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Branson

His maternal ancestors (from this article) include

6. Edward James Branson md
7. Eve Branson (née Huntley Flindt).

12. The Right Honourable Sir George Arthur Harwin Branson, a Judge of
the High Court of Justice and a Privy Councillor.

The couple "will marry next year at her father's 17,000-acre estate,
Cowdray Park, in West Sussex." So Eliza will be at least 21 at her
wedding. According to the article (Richard Kay column), the couple
met after their mothers - Viscountess Cowdray (second wife of the
Viscount, previously married to the lady who became 4th wife of the
Marquess of Northampton) and Lindi Brockway nee Branson - went to
sculpture class together. Ned apparently works for his uncle's space
venture Virgin Galactic with Princess Beatrice's boyfriend Dave
Clark.

So in the future, the Virgin group might claim as spouses
- for Sam Branson, the actress Isabella Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe,
granddaughter maternally of an earl.
- for his cousin Ned Abel Smith, the daughter of a very rich viscount
- for an employee Dave Clark, the granddaughter of the British
monarch!


Hope this helps.

Shinjinee

On Sep 5, 9:55 pm, "Allan Raymond" <allan_raym...@btinternet.com>
wrote:

> Paul
>
> Purely a guess
>
> 2nd Baron Raglan
> daughter
> Violet Elizabeth Katharine Somerset married Wilfrid Robert Abel Smith
> son
> Wilfrid Lyulph Abel Smith
> son
> Robert Ralph Abel Smith
> son
> Possibly Ned Abel Smith
>

> Reference for the details other than Ned Abel Smith fromhttp://www.william1.co.uk/w12.html

[Dennis Cunniff]

On Sep 6, 2008, at 11:26 AM, Shinjinee wrote:

>
> For a portrait of the happy fiancee, and more details, see down this
> page
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1052292/Boris-girl-Russian-
> divorce.html
>

And there's a photo of Ned Abel Smith on this page:
<http://www.apple.com/uk/pro/profiles/madeintheshade/index2.html>

> Ned Abel Smith, ten years Eliza's senior (i.e, aged 30 and born circa
> 1988) is the son of Lindy Brockway, alias Lindi Branson, a sister of
> Sir Richard Branson.

Some of the ancestry of Richard Branson is at <http://wargs.com/other/
branson.html>, where a distant kinship with Diana Spencer (by common
descent from John Hamilton & Sarah Brabazon) is also noted.

I still haven't found any detail on the missing Abel Smith generation
(s).

- Dennis J. Cunniff

[Shinjinee]

On Sep 6, 8:46 pm, Dennis Cunniff <dcunn...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:

> Some of the ancestry of Richard Branson is at <http://wargs.com/other/
> branson.html>, where a distant kinship with Diana Spencer (by common
> descent from John Hamilton & Sarah Brabazon) is also noted.
>
> I still haven't found any detail on the missing Abel Smith generation
> (s).
>
> - Dennis J. Cunniff

Dennis, I don't know why, but I have been completely unable to access
WAR's site for months!

Shinjinee

[Richard R]

Here's confirmation of Ned's parentage:

Robert Ralph Abel Smith b 1947 m 1 1976 (forthcoming marriage notice
in Times 16 July 1976) (div __ before Nov 1984) Lynette (Lindi) d
Edward J Branson of Tanyard Farm, Shamley Green, Surrey and had issue:
1 Edward Lyulph (Ned) Abel Smith b 24 June 1978 (birth notice in Times
26 June 1978)
2 [Can't read 1st name but may be Robert] Ralph Abel Smith b 25 May
1980 (birth notice in Times 27 May 1980)

Ned's parents' second marriages:
Robert R Abel Smith m 2 1985 (marriage notice Times 22 Jan 1985 plus
details from Normanton article in Burke's) Rosemary Anne (former wife
of Hon Mark Agar - s 5 E Normanton & 2 wife Lady Fiona Fleetwood, dau
2 M Camden) dau Maj Philip H Marnham, Garden Cottage, Encombe, Dorset.
Lindi m 2 c 1985 (forthcoming marriage notice in Times 3 Nov 1984)
(div c 2008 after having 3 sons by 2 h) Robin s Jack Brockway & Mrs
Mona Quirke.

Ned is The Queen's are 5th cousin once removed, both descended from
sons of Abel Smith, the banker of Nottingham. Ned from the 4th son
Samuel (1745-1834, whose family became Smith of Woodhall Park) and The
Queen from the 5th son George (1765-1836, whose family became Smith of
Shottesbrooke Park)