6x great grandchildren of Queen Victoria?

[bx...@yahoo.com]

Does anyone have a list of Queen Victoria's 6x great grandchildren?

I know  Princes George and Louis of Wales and their sister, Princess Charlotte, are among her many 5x great-grandchildren, but does anyone have a list of her 6x great grandchildren?

Thanks.

Brooke

[Nick MacGregor-Sadolin]

Dear Brooke,

Here is an extract from my relationships database. It covers all the 760 descendants of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert on to 7th generation, which have in my database - including my personal notes.

Please notice, that I have a little typo-problem about prefix from when I began using GeneaNet - importing my gedcom-file, and which I have not corrected yet. Therefore you often see "Name Prefix:" in front of Lord, Dame, Lady, etc.

Anyway, I am sure this list is not complete with all Queen Victoria's descendants, but it includes of them, which I am aware of.

You can find the exact same list here online in my database as it is shown on the pdf-paper:

https://gw.geneanet.org/sadolinsnet_w?lang=en&pz=nikolaj+asgeir+macgregor&nz=sadolin&ocz=0&m=D&p=victoria+alexandrina+victoria+hanover+queen+of&n=united+kingdom+of+great+britain+and+ireland&sosab=10&color=&t=L&rel=on&notes=on&inline=on&comm=on&alwsurn=yes&v=7

I have also attached a pdf-file with a 5th generation chart, which includes the generation of Prince William, the Prince of Wales, but not his children's generation. You find it here online:

https://gw.geneanet.org/sadolinsnet_w?lang=en&pz=nikolaj+asgeir+macgregor&nz=sadolin&m=D&p=victoria+alexandrina+victoria+hanover+queen+of&n=united+kingdom+of+great+britain+and+ireland&siblings=on&notes=on&t=T&v=6&image=on&marriage=on&full=on

If you want to see charts in my database which includes Prince George's, Princess Charlotte's and Prince Louis' generation level, you (unfortunately) have to go each of Queen Victoria's children's page in my database. You find all her children here:

https://gw.geneanet.org/sadolinsnet_w?lang=en&n=united+kingdom+of+great+britain+and+ireland&nz=sadolin&oc=0&p=victoria+alexandrina+victoria+hanover+queen+of&pz=nikolaj+asgeir+macgregor&type=fiche

Then when you are on her child, you go to the bottom of the page, and under "Family Tree Preview" - click on "Descendants Chart", and you will see a five generation chart, which includes all Queen Victoria's 6 x great-grandchildren under that particularly daughter or son of Queen Victoria.

Maybe a little complicated, but I hope this helps you!

My wishes for a Happy New Year to you and and everyone else in The Perrage News Group,

Best regards,

Nick

Nick MacGregor Sadolin

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If you (anyone here) sees anything NOT correct or if you have additions or other corrections, please feel free to let me know about it, and I will correct it and / or it.

Thanks in advance!

[colinp]

I am away from my books for a while so this may not be a complete answer but at the moment I can only find 3 known 6x great-grandchildren of Queen Victoria.

Felicitas von Reiche b 28 Oct 1986 in Munich is the oldest and most senior 5x great-grandchild.  She m 2017 Alexander von Heinz and they have 2 children:-

• Caspar b 2019
• Jonathan b 2021

Queen Victoria/ Victoria, Princess Royal (Empress Frederick of Germany)/Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany/ Crown Prince Wilhelm of Germany/Prince Wilhelm of Prussia/Princess Felicitas of Prussia (Mrs von der Osten)/Friederike von der Osten (Mrs von Reiche)/Felicitas von Reiche (Mrs von Heinz)/ Caspar and Jonathan von Heinz

Paul Wilhelm Prinz von Preussen b 4 Oct 1995 m 2019  Melissa Ising and it is reported that they have a child (unknown name and sex)

Queen Victoria/ Victoria, Princess Royal (Empress Frederick of Germany)/Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany/Crown Prince Wilhelm of Germany/Prince Louis Ferdinand of Prussia/Prince Friedrich Wilhelm of Prussia/Philip Prinz von Preussen/Paul Wilhelm Prinz von Preussen/child

[I had already typed the bulk of this before I saw Nick's replies so apologies if this duplicates the information he has provided]

[Nick MacGregor-Sadolin]

Thanks for these Colinp. They were both new to me. I haven't had my focus on Queen Victoria, but have added relatives of her - as they came along. Maybe it is time to focus on her descendants, which mostly are non-British & -Irish Continental European royalty (as far as I know).

Brooke, there was an American woman, Marlene A. Eilers Koenig, who made a lot about Queen Victoria's descendants - two-three decades ago.

If I remember correctly, she was educated a historian and she worked as university liberian.

A little personal experience:

While I studied history at University of Copenhagen (next to my normal job), I wrote Marlene A. Eilers Koenig a question regarding some Danish Royal relation to Queen Victoria.

However, I did not get any good response from her:

I recall her response as being arrogant and rude, informing me, that I didn't know anything about anything - as a student (I was then 33 and a VP). She didn't answer my question, but refered me to her book then, "Queen Victoria's Descendants" from 1997. She soon after updated her book with "Queen Victoria's Descendants: A Companion Edition" in 2004, which can be found here:

https://archive.org/details/queenvictoriasde0000marl/mode/1up 

Not so long time after, I had corresponded with Marlene A. Eilers Koenig, I visited a close relative, late Peder, Count Bonde of Björnö, whom I had known all of my life, and who was a mentor for me (I worked with finance in their companies in my mid-20s), and whom I called Uncle Peder.

Peder Bonde had for several decades been on the international advisory board at Sadolin & Holmblad, and he was himself a son of a mother from the today still powerful Swedish business dynasty, the Wallenberg family (www.wallenberg.com), which had controlled a lot Swedish businesses through their Wallenberg foundations and it's holding companies - especially Investor. These companies included among others: Alfa-Laval, Astra and Scania, and they still controlling among others: ABB, Atlas Copco, Electrolux, Saab, SEB Group (banking) and SKF, where he had held senior positions as Chair and Vice Chair of their boards of directors.

Marlene A. Eilers Koenig had meet with Peder Bonde, who found her to be very kind and polite (!!!). She writes a little writes about it here herself:

https://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogspot.com/2010/06/count-carl-johan-bernadotte-and-his.html 

"Don't judge a book by its cover". However, both the books and their covers are great, and you can might find something in Marlene A. Eilers Koenig's books, which are of good quality and with a lot of details. Also her blog could might be useful for you.

Best regards,

Nick

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[bx...@yahoo.com]

Hi Nick and colinp.  

Thanks so much for your responses, and Nick, thank you for all of the information you sent me.  That's a lot of stuff to sort through!

Nick, I do know about Marlene's book.  I had actually photocopied information from the 1987 edition from the library a long time ago.   Anyway,  that's now almost 39 years old.  Even the 2004 edition is over 20 years old.

I know Hein Bruins has a wonderful site, in which he updates descendants of certain monarchs (i.e.Wilhelm I of Germany and Christian IX of Denmark), but he doesn't have one for Victoria alone, and finding an updated version just of her descendants is impossible.

I was hoping to put together an updated version, hence the reason for my original post.  Looks like it will take some effort to actually update it.

Thanks again!

Brooke

[Nick MacGregor-Sadolin]

Hi Brooke,

Yes 20 years is genealogical research terms a long time.

I find your Queen Victoria & Prince Albert project very interesting, and I would like to participate in it with you if possible - or at least get you to update about your progress. Let me know, what you think:

Use my two last names with a dot in between them and then gmail.com

Looking forward to hearing from you!

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[bx...@yahoo.com]

Hi Nick.

Thanks for your interest and your email address.

I had done a large project about a year ago, with regards to all of the Dukes ever created, to see how they were related to the Royal Family.  I didn't realize it at the time, but that took several months, and something like this might take as long.

I don't know if I'm prepared to  handle that right now.  I will think about it, and let you know.

But I do appreciate your help and your interest.

All the best.

Brooke