Sailing UMA, a Pearson 36

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Robert Franklin

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Oct 25, 2017, 1:31:25 PM10/25/17
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Curious?

Does anyone in our group follow Dan and Kika as avidly as I do?

Bob Franklin
P36 "ARION"

[P.S.]  So many names of boats are ill conceived and offensive.  A member of my club has a medium sized power boat named "Naughty Boy". A large graphic following the name on the side of the boat showing a young boy peeing. 

No one has ever asks me where I got the name "ARION".

In Greek Mythology Arion was a famous musician. He was travelling aboard a sailing vessel from one port to another, when the sailors conspired to take his money and throw him overboard. They granted his wish when he begged to play his lyre one last time. His music charmed the dolphins who lifted him from the sea and transported him to the kingdom where the boat was headed. When the king heard Arion's story he took the sailors prisoner and executed them for their treachery. 

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Peter Trunfio

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Oct 25, 2017, 1:45:50 PM10/25/17
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I do follow Sailing Uma on YouTube.

Here's the link for those who may be unfamiliar with it: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXbWsGV_cjG3gOsSnNJPVlg

I don't always agree with his approach to boat maintenance and/or repairs/refit...but he certainly seems to be able to do a lot of projects without the right tools and/or materials.

And I'm not sure about the wisdom of going "off-shore" without life-lines...

As for boat names...someone once told me, "Before you settle on a boat name, just imagine yourself having to call the Coast Guard on an open channel for assistance."

"Mayday Mayday Mayday, this is sailing vessel 'Breaking Wind' Mayday Mayday Mayday".

There is a boat at one of the other clubs on City Island called "Sponge Worthy". For those who still remember Seinfeld, it's a bit of a "cringe worthy" boat name.

My boat was [re]named by the previous owner. It was named after Annandale-on-Hudson. The previous owner's grandmother lived there...and that where she learned to sail.

It's a nice name, and I had no compelling reason to change it. So we kept it. But if it had been something horrible (or specific to the previous owner's name), I would have changed it.

PMT

Peter M. Trunfio
s/v Annandale
City Island, NY


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Robert Franklin

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Oct 25, 2017, 2:15:46 PM10/25/17
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Peter, 

There is some mythology about not changing a boat's name.  I forget the details.

Life lines, should not be relied on, as Dan said in one of the "steps".  I agree with that, but would never consider sailing without them.  As inadequate as they are, they just might stop you from going overboard. But the most important thing for me is they give me a sense of territory, as in when I am getting to the edge.  Dan would have the skill to install backing.

Odd, too.  Not much at all about safety aboard.  Never saw either Dan or Kika in a life jacket, harness or anything like that. 
This past summer I adopted a rule, which is never on deck without a life jacket and never out of the cockpit without being hooked to a fore and aft deck line.  I'm not as faithful to this rule all the time as I could be, but it is on my mind and that alone makes me more conscious and careful. 

The UMAs are detailed about repairs which makes the shows very interesting.  Others like this don't come close to the high end photography, graphics and articulate narrative. I predict these two youngsters will take this ability a long way, even if it come ashore.

Also, with the other "Sailings With" I'm a little filled up with long hair, tattoos and general coolness.  They are an attractive couple, but not seem all taken with themselves.

But most of all, its a Pearson and much of it should be very familiar.  

An interesting show they could do, is what they would do differently, if they could go back to zero, knowing all they know now, and do it all over again.

Don't we all wish for that?

Bob


Jeff Griglack

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Oct 25, 2017, 3:36:36 PM10/25/17
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Sailing Uma is one of the sailing channels that I watch*.  I enjoy the repair/enhancement work that they do.  I enjoy how they do new things with non-traditional materials (did you see the recent modification of the side deck drains to allow them to collect water in their water tanks).

Interestingly, they were on the board at the beginning, asking advice when they were working on the replacing the floors.  They may still be, but I don't know.  If they are listening, I would also like to see a retrospective on what they would have done differently.  However, they have sort of done that when they have changed some things**.

Jeff

* Others include SV La Vagabond, and Follow the Boat.  To a lesser extent, I watch Wicked Salty (they're locals), Adventure Adrift, and Abandon Comfort (in no particular order).
** They went through several iterations of their electric motor mounts.  I think they changed it again recently.

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George DuBose

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Oct 26, 2017, 2:58:25 AM10/26/17
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Name change.

I heard you shouldn't change the name of your boat. Bad luck. If you do however, one has to get a virgin to pee in the bilge...

Actually whenever Skylark is in a crowded harbor, to avoid long waits for a water taxi, we change Skylark's name temporarily to "Big Tipper". Gets the water taxi's attention.

George

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Robert Franklin

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Oct 26, 2017, 6:18:42 PM10/26/17
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George,

I am guessing you would have been fascinated by the UMA keel project.

I couldn't figure out what they were doing.  If I recall correctly, is was a few vertical pieces of Home Depot rigid insulation cut to conform to the tumble home.  Then covered with a few layers of fiberglass cloth and epoxy.  I can't see how that would provide any structural support.

Maybe I just missed an episode. 

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Peter Ogilvie

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Oct 26, 2017, 7:31:36 PM10/26/17
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They added a signficant number of additional new floors in addition to replacing the factory ones.  They used foam as a mold for the glass that is the strength. building up multiple layers of glass and bonding these glass forms to the hull add much needed rigidity to the keel area. Hopefully they used epoxy resin as polyester resin doesn't stick all that well to cured polyester resin.  That's the engineers way to build super strong yet light weight FRP structures.  You need to fire your internal engineer as he doesn't know FRP construction practices.

Back in the good old days they used to lay up fiber glass hulls with multiple layers of woven roving and mat for a thick laminate and tie in a few bulkheads or furniture for reinforcement to get a relatively rigid structure.  Our old Westsail 32 was a half inch thick at the rail and got thicker the lower in the hull you went.  This construction method isn't all that rigid and it's heavy but it's nearly bullet proof in the literal sense.  Modern day eningeering practice of FRP hulls is a thinner laminate with glassed in hat sections to stiffen the hull.  Not as resistant to puncture by an M-16 round but way stiffer and lighter.  The glassed in hat sections give it the rigidity.  Kind of like the old style FRP construction as it made for hulls that could take a beating and sail away like the W32 Satori of 'Perfect Storm' fame.

Another way to get stiffness is using a core so the inner and outer laminates work in sheer agains each other like an 'I' beam.  That's a cheaper way to mass produce stiffness but they often end up with very thin skins ala Hunter.  Also if they use balsa core, water can get into the core and rot it.  If they use foam as a core, the bond between the foam and core can break down.  In both cases, that will result in a weakened less stiff structure.

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Peter Ogilvie
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