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Robert Franklin

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Apr 10, 2024, 9:14:44 PM4/10/24
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I thought I had listed this a month ago, but I guess not. Here goes.

$30,000 significant price drop for group members.

Listing attached.
Franklin P36 Listing 3 pgs 16 photos.pdf

Robert Franklin

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Jun 4, 2024, 7:09:28 PM6/4/24
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I am eager to sell my P36, which is a terrific example of the 104 built. It is the UMA model although as original compared to UMA as it can be. The best feature is floor work done a few years ago in conjunction with some strengthening of the aft upper area of the keel.  All done very comprehensively, neatly and professionally.

Besides that the list of equipment is endless. The electronics may not be glamorous, for example my GPS does not have a Tesla sized screen, but everything work and is serviceable. 

Bob Franklin

ps  Price now $25,000 and negotiable for an attractive (to me) buyer. The boat includes everything even Chelsea clock, Barometer, etc. As I am retiring form big boat sailing I have no retention items. 

Bob Franklin

Robert Franklin

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Aug 6, 2024, 1:13:46 PM8/6/24
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I have reduced the price on my Pearson 36 to $20,000.  

You could buy a new Yanmar 3GM30F for around that price, but in my case you get the engine and the boat and everything else. 

Anyone who has followed me over the past 15 years on this group knows I've been involved, thoughtful about maintenance. that the boat is well maintained and mechanically correct.

I'd love "ARION" to go to a Pearson Google Group member or to a member of my Yacht Club, Savin Hill YC Boston.  The market has been slow for selling, but I may not be doing enough of that, relying on the relatively small circle of Pearson owners on this group.

I now have a very comprehensive listing detailing what is included.  Email me, if you want an electronic copy.

Bob Franklin
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David Lidrbauch

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Aug 6, 2024, 2:27:22 PM8/6/24
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Ahoy Bob, 
I just completed the sale of my 1976 C&C 33, all it takes is that one next owner who clicks with the boat, so keep faith.   

I'm now moving forward full speed on my 1965 P35 project (4th year of uogrades), else id be considering your P36.  She's one of the best looking Pearson models out there, and i love the underwater configuration.

I'm curious in case i run into others who may be interested now that my C&C is off the market:  any soft core in  the decks?   Which model propeller is that?

Thanks,
DaveL 

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Robert Franklin

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Aug 6, 2024, 5:32:40 PM8/6/24
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Thanks David,

As far as I can tell there are no soft spots on the deck. I have not had that evaluated by a professional, but someone interested in the boat did arrive with a wooden hammer and went through the deck pretty carefully. Ultimately that person, a member of our group, decided to stick with his Pearson 32 for now. I am sure, if I needed to track him down he would be comfortable telling someone what he did and what he found. My recollection was he was satisfied that the deck was solid.

The boat has a three blade fixed prop. I prefer it for reliability. I know it creates drag. I don't know how much, but if someone really loved the boat, they could spend the money to change the prop. If I end up keeping the boat because it doesn't sell and sailing it again, I will not change the prop. At a genuine 7 knots consistently in a good breeze I'm fast enough. If speed were important, we wouldn't be sailing.

Thanks again.

I am looking for that one right connection.

Bob 



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David Lidrbauch

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Aug 6, 2024, 6:43:43 PM8/6/24
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Thanks
I know from my recent sale that selling can feel all-consuming.  I only received scam contacts from the "official" boat sales sites.  My opinion: at our price point for classic boats, facebook marketplace is much more effective.   Especially, as most folks in our classic plastic range are not looking to visit, review, transport, or deliver from any distance.  

Think of anything you'd be skeptical of and cover that in your advert.    The couple who bought my boat were excited by my long list of upgrades and things i did to remove the "oh no, this looks like a project..." concerns.

FBM only allows limited pics, so i created a set of google photo albums for under sail, interior, deck/cockpit, engine & systems, etc. Anyone who was seriously interested from seeing the FBM advert, got those links of photo albums.    All the photos were from this season.   As i would update / add / change, the person who had looked at the album would get a notification automatically.  

I've not fully absorbed the fact that I'm now down to one boat project.

Hope this is helpful 

Fair winds
DaveL
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P35 #106v1969

Robert Franklin

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Aug 6, 2024, 7:52:24 PM8/6/24
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David,

I will miss "Arion" I realize, but my wife and I already have our sights set on another boat.  Most likely a Rhodes 19.  Are you familiar?  There is one for sale on Lake Sunnapee we might look at this weekend, if it is still available.

We visited Anne's brother in Wellfleet (a year rounder) this past weekend and rented a Rhodes 19 at the town dock. It was in rough shape being a rental, but we had a great time. Are you familiar with Wellfleet? We had the boat for about four hours. That was enough time to sail out to Jeremy Point, which is an exquisite location, lunch ashore and return on the typical late afternoon SW down wind.

It was a memorable sail itself, wind 12 -15 knots, but especially so because the last time Anne and I sailed that route was summer of 1968 in my 13 foot Blue J "Infanta" (known as a baby Lightning). 

It's been a while. 56 years. I grew up summers in Wellfleet, so I did a lot of sailing there. I did bring my P36 into Wellfleet Harbor three years ago, but it is not a great location for a large deep draft sailboat, unless you're happy just to anchor isolated, which we were. However, your P35 would be perfect. I wonder if the centerboard is sufficiently appreciated. One version of the Tartan 34 models is centerboard.

Maybe that is what I should be looking for ... another P35? You're lucky to have one.

By the way, where are you located?

Bob

David Lidrbauch

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Aug 6, 2024, 8:27:19 PM8/6/24
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Im up in Beverly 
(Same club as Guy Johnson - our families are long time friends)

A few of our members (friends) had/have  Rhodies.   In fact, my neighbor Jack might be getting close to selling his depending on how a few things work out this fall.

If that one does not work out I'll connect you.

Yes,  wellfleet is on my short list for the remaining season, and that skinny draft is one on the reasons im keeping her.   Annisquam river, Wellfleet, Essex skinny water behind Cranes beach,  avoiding the moorings in Perrys creek Maine...

-David Lidrbauch

Peter McGowan

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Aug 6, 2024, 9:58:53 PM8/6/24
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I’d add to David’s excellent advice that as a regular seller on eBay I have learned that dropping the price of an item that’s fairly priced (meaning I have researched the sale of similar items and determined the pricing for items in better condition, worse condition, and similar condition) is usually a win for the interested buyer and a loss for me.  If a buyer is interested and they think that you’re asking too much then they’ll make an offer.  Long story short you’re much better off following David’s advice on copious pictures and “concern management” for the genuinely interested than continuing to lower the price.  Another reason to hold firm is that wise buyers will be negotiating you down a bit anyways knowing you’re looking down the barrel of hauling out and winter storage.

Robert Franklin

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Aug 6, 2024, 10:16:35 PM8/6/24
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Thanks for that follow up, Peter.

Anne and I decided not to launch "Arion". It is at Savin Hill YC on the hard, well secured against storms. I have to pay a summer storage fee ... not sure what that is, but probably well under $1,000. But no launching fee and no hauling fee, although at SHYC it is all member done, so quite reasonable. The club has its own Brownell rig and tractor.

I note David's suggestion, endorsed by you, to have copious photos. My listing on FBMP has more than a dozen photos (although they could be better and maybe I'll upgrade) and about 16 pages of text including the Pearson line drawing which are not copyrighted. I could do better, but I think a potential buyer has much to work with. 

Curiously for me, although I have posted similarly in Craig's List as in FBMP, I have not had a single inquiry from either. The interest I have had has come from SHYC and Pearson Google Group. This makes me feel either I am doing something wrong, or it is summertime doldrums, or I need to check both FBMP and Craig's List to see if my ads are actually active.

Thanks for encouraging me on all counts. It does get a little discouraging but if I get the right buyer - and to me that means more than the right price - whatever wait there is will be satisfactory to me.

I mentioned to David, off group, that my wife Anne and I are considering a Rhodes 19 for replacement and I may look at one at Lake Sunapee this weekend. 

Bob 

Peter McGowan

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Aug 6, 2024, 10:47:32 PM8/6/24
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I only joined/found this group and the Facebook groups /after/ I bought a Pearson.  If my boat had been listed here and on Facebook marketplace I wouldn’t have found it.  

I would suggest going on Google and behaving like you want to buy a 30’ - ‘36 used sailboat, then behave like you want a 30’ - 36’ Pearson.  If you find your boat then you’re doing it right.  If you find a hundred other boats, but not yours, take note of the sites you’re finding them on.  While you’re at it pay particular attention to the boats you can’t help yourself from admiring, note the sorts of pictures those folks are posting, and the wording of the ads. 

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