Shortage of "Ipex Aqua" plumbing fittings in Canada?
Plumber Guy
name "Ipex" or "Aqua". Here is their web site:
http://www.ipexaqua.com/fittings.shtml
I bought some of these components (pipes, tee's, fittings, etc) for a
small project from Home Depot a little while ago (it was a new Home
Depot store so it was stocked with all new stuff this past November).
I went back a week ago to get another 1/2" tee and they were sold
out. I have since learned that other stores here in SW-Ontario
haven't had any new shipments of these products/fittings for weeks or
months, and that there seems to be a major production or
quality-control problem with this product line.
Does anyone have any knowledge of quality-control or supply problems
with this Ipex/Aqua plumbing product line?
Mike Grooms
Please don't be one of their salesmen who's using a very cheap and
dishonest method to get some free advertizing. I hate guys like that.
Plumber Guy
I am in no way affiliated with Ipex/Aqua products.
I'm pissed that I can't find a god-damn 1/2" tee fitting. I'm pissed
that they apparently can't keep Home Depot stocked with these parts.
Does that sound like a product endorsement to you?
Bob Wheatley
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My only question is why in the hell did you put some unproven crap in
someone's home?
How much could you have possibly saved over going with copper or something
/anything with a proven track record.
Is a hundred bucks really that important?
Bob Wheatley
Brian
>with this Ipex/Aqua plumbing product line?
Those probably leaked....
>From all of the existent PEX systems, you had to choose unproven one?
Does it even meet local codes?
Mike Grooms
> I'm pissed that I can't find a god-damn 1/2" tee fitting. I'm pissed
> that they apparently can't keep Home Depot stocked with these parts.
>
> Does that sound like a product endorsement to you?
No, and you're talking like most plumbers I know. In our newsgroup,
the sneaky ploy I mentioned is often used. Sorry for the accusation.
Lately it seems that there's always something new on the market. I just
stick with copper.
Plumber Guy
> My only question is why in the hell did you put some unproven
> crap in someone's home?
It's for the temporary connection to a small water heater in a
commercial building (my building).
I put it in myself - and I'm not a plumber (or, I should say, my day
job is not a contractor or plumber or any sort of building trade).
> How much could you have possibly saved over going with copper
> Is a hundred bucks really that important?
It was quick and easy and I'm not complaining about how the stuff
works or how easy it was to use.
Brian wrote:
> > Does anyone have any knowledge of quality-control or supply
> > problems with this Ipex/Aqua plumbing product line?
>
> Those probably leaked....
Actually I had more of a problem with the 3/4" pipe fitting from the
heater. This Ipex/Aqua stuff hasn't leaked or given me a problem at
all.
> > From all of the existent PEX systems, you had to choose
> > unproven one?
>
> Does it even meet local codes?
I don't give a fuck if it meets codes or not.
It's not permenant, and it was quick, and can we GET THE FUCK OFF THE
QUESTIONS about why I chose it or whether it's good shit or not and
focus back on the question of the supply or availability issues of
these products to local retailers?
If you don't have any first-hand experience in obtaining or buying
this shit, then shut the fuck up.
Edwin Pawlowski
"Mike Grooms" <iron...@fuse.net> wrote in message
> Lately it seems that there's always something new on the market. I just
> stick with copper.
Some of the "new" stuff has been around for years. Like PEX tubing. It has
just not been as widely used as copper has for decades. Many tradesmen are
reluctant to change when they have something they know works. There are
situations where it will be better and save a lot of time and labor so it is
good to be aware of all the options.
Bob Wheatley
> I put it in myself - and I'm not a plumber (or, I should say, my day
> job is not a contractor or plumber or any sort of building trade). >
Your sig suggests you're a plumber. That's the reasons for the questions. If
you didn't misrepresent yourself or the facts you'd get more accurate and
direct results.
Try these folks:
Jacqueline Allen
Marketing Manager
IPEX HomeRite Products
905-670-7676, ext. 113
1-800-268-4664
email: jac...@ipexhomerite.com
Terry Baskin
Birchall & Associates
tel. 905-852-9249
fax 905-852-2970
terry...@sympatico.ca
> I don't give a fuck if it meets codes or not.
>
> It's not permenant, and it was quick, and can we GET THE FUCK OFF THE
> QUESTIONS about why I chose it or whether it's good shit or not and focus
> back on the question of the supply or availability issues of these
> products to local retailers?>
> If you don't have any first-hand experience in obtaining or buying this
> shit, then shut the fuck up. >
Your arrogance blossoms to ignorance.
You have cross posted this to a plumbers newsgroup.
Not a fucking plumbing suppliers newsgroup. You come here posing as a
"Plumber Guy" and our responses were formed by that misrepresentation. Now
that we know your an idiot we will dumb down our responses in a language you
can understand. Try contacting the folks I posted above.
We don't sell parts here.
Bob Wheatley
EXT
product.
I have a brochure that I picked up at a Rona store, it gives the Canadian
distributor's name and address and phone numbers. Try calling them, they
have an 800 number.
Ipex HomeRite Products
6810 Invader Cres.
Mississauga ON L5T 2B6
1 800 268-4664 ext159
905 670-7676 ext159
"Plumber Guy" <Plu...@Guy.com> wrote in message
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Plumber Guy
> "Plumber Guy" <Plu...@Guy.com> wrote in message
>
I have no "sig" attached to the bottom of any of my posts.
I chose a bogus posting identity that makes it easier to track the
posts that I make to various news groups when the need arises.
> That's the reasons for the questions.
No, the reasons for the questions (and comments) was just to be mouthy
and brow-beat me for not using traditional plumbing materials. It had
nothing to do with me using "Plumber Guy" as a posting indentity.
> If you didn't misrepresent yourself or the facts you'd get more
> accurate and direct results.
Don't be so full of yourself. There was no attempt to mis-represent
anything.
Look back at my original post. It was informative, direct and to the
point. I asked a simple question about a particular type of plumbing
supply product. It's clear by now that no-one reading this thread has
any (recent) experience with problems obtaining components of this
product line from any traditional big-box retailers. Hence the reason
why this thread went off-topic.
> > I don't give a fuck if it meets codes or not.
>
> Your arrogance blossoms to ignorance.
The arrogance of you and others were posted here first in response to
my original post. I'm just responding in-kind.
> You have cross posted this to a plumbers newsgroup.
Maybe because it's about a fucking plumbing product? Ya think?
> Not a fucking plumbing suppliers newsgroup.
Ok smart ass. Give me the name of a "plumbing-suppliers" usenet
newsgroup.
> You come here posing as a "Plumber Guy" and our responses were
> formed by that misrepresentation.
So you admit to being ignorant and arrogant enough to not simply
respond to the content of the post? You have to read something into
the bogus identity I used in order to formulate a response? What kind
of bone-head logic is that?
> Now that we know your an idiot we will ...
Maybe you'll read my original post and if you have no first-hand or
inside information as to why Ipex/Aqua products aren't being stocked
properly by big-box retailers then you'll just shut up and not shift
the focus of the thread.
> We don't sell parts here.
And just where is "here" ?
(I'll admit that I have no idea what "pdaxs.services" means in the
context of the usenet group name "pdaxs.services.plumbing", but it's
got the word "plumbing" in it so it's fair game as far as I'm
concerned).
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like
a 50 pound tool to lift and make sure you have nothing in its way.
It compress's the fitting using a heavy ass tool.
I looked and said never. Yet some big places do use it in Buffalo NY.
They re model old buildings in the theater distric.
Me, I can't see it. I'd be dieing in half a day from heavy lifting.
Jacket@yahoo.com Red Jacket
contractors
There Mike, dump all the headers that ass put on and its back to normal.
"Mike Grooms" <iron...@fuse.net> wrote in message
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Jacket@yahoo.com Red Jacket
WTF are you anyway ?
"Plumber Guy" <Plu...@Guy.com> wrote in message
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Bob Wheatley
"Plumber Guy" <Plu...@Guy.com> wrote in message
> Bob Wheatley wrote:
>
>> "Plumber Guy" <Plu...@Guy.com> wrote in message
>>
>> Your sig suggests you're a plumber.
>
> I have no "sig" attached to the bottom of any of my posts.
>
> I chose a bogus posting identity that makes it easier to track the
> posts that I make to various news groups when the need arises.
>
A difference without a difference is no difference.
>> That's the reasons for the questions.
>
> No, the reasons for the questions (and comments) was just to be mouthy
> and brow-beat me for not using traditional plumbing materials. It had
> nothing to do with me using "Plumber Guy" as a posting indentity.
>
No, stupid.
If we'd known of your ignorance we wouldn't have tried to draw you into a
technical discussion.
No problem now. We know your a DIY'er.
>> If you didn't misrepresent yourself or the facts you'd get more
>> accurate and direct results.
>
> Don't be so full of yourself. There was no attempt to mis-represent
> anything.
>
See: "Plumber Guy"
> Look back at my original post. It was informative, direct and to the
> point. I asked a simple question about a particular type of plumbing
> supply product. It's clear by now that no-one reading this thread has
> any (recent) experience with problems obtaining components of this
> product line from any traditional big-box retailers. Hence the reason
> why this thread went off-topic.
>
It went off topic because you represented yourself as a plumber (see: lie)
and asked about quality control or supply problems. Implying even more that
you are looking for a regular supply of quality plumbing supplies.
Hmm...still sounds like a plumber. (see: lie)
>> > I don't give a fuck if it meets codes or not.
>>
>> Your arrogance blossoms to ignorance.
>
> The arrogance of you and others were posted here first in response to
> my original post. I'm just responding in-kind.
>
No "Mr. Plumber Guy".
You are the first to become belligerent when your little facade began to
crumble.
>> You have cross posted this to a plumbers newsgroup.
>
> Maybe because it's about a fucking plumbing product? Ya think?
>
>> Not a fucking plumbing suppliers newsgroup.
>
> Ok smart ass. Give me the name of a "plumbing-suppliers" usenet
> newsgroup.
>
I answered your supply question in my previous post.
If that doesn't get you what you need....
Google is your friend.
>> You come here posing as a "Plumber Guy" and our responses were
>> formed by that misrepresentation.
>
> So you admit to being ignorant and arrogant enough to not simply
> respond to the content of the post? >
Answers are always framed to whom asked the question.
> You have to read something into
> the bogus identity I used in order to formulate a response? What kind
> of bone-head logic is that?
>
Normal logic.
>> We don't sell parts here.
>
> And just where is "here" ?
>
On a newsgroup.
> (I'll admit that I have no idea what "pdaxs.services" means in the context
> of the usenet group name "pdaxs.services.plumbing", but it's got the word
> "plumbing" in it so it's fair game as far as I'm concerned). >
So on top of being arrogantly ignorant about plumbing, you suffer from the
same condition for Usenet.
Bob Wheatley
Bob Wheatley
> Bob, I may of seen this one. The tools will kill you. Say its a T , you
> have
> like
> a 50 pound tool to lift and make sure you have nothing in its way.
> It compress's the fitting using a heavy ass tool.
> I looked and said never. Yet some big places do use it in Buffalo NY.
> They re model old buildings in the theater distric.
> Me, I can't see it. I'd be dieing in half a day from heavy lifting.
>
From what I've seen of this crap it only requires a special cutter and
reamer. Both are small hand tools.
Think "GasTite" and you're close.
Bob Wheatley
Eric G.
@corp.supernews.com:
> From what I've seen of this crap it only requires a special cutter and
> reamer. Both are small hand tools.
> Think "GasTite" and you're close.
>
>
> Bob Wheatley
Since you mentioned it, isn't GasTite some awesome shit? We only use black
pipe at work, with a brand new Rigid threader/cutter, but I used some of
this shit in my house and it saved me like 90% of the labor time. Plus I
didn't have to lug home the Rigid.
Eric
Ned Flanders
this pex?? stuff he mentioned might be easier.
I am very intetrested in what this might be but I am soo scared to changes
me ways.
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Bob Wheatley
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Yeah I like it so far. I have used it in a limited manner for the past few
years on several different projects. It's particularly effective for those
island situations where a looped line is required. I did put some of it in
my own a few years back when I couldn't gain access to my 3rd floor attic
without major demo to convert an electric furnace to gas. Although the rest
of the system is screw pipe.
Bob Wheatley
Eric Miller
Hey "Plumber Guy"
"pissed of at home depot"
Thats what you get for feeding the dog that bites us!
Ipex sell great pex pipe called "kitec" but you don't buy it at the depot.
(Its to good)
Orillia Home Depot seems to have stock on the cheap pipe.
I suggest you go there and be as foul mouthed and rude as you were on this
group, perhaps they may sell you the tee before they throw you out of the
store for being an asshole.
You embarace me as a Canadian!
Get some manners!
Get a life!
Oh yea:
Get a real plumber!
Jerk.
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The setup I seen squeezed the fitting to the pipe. They had a load of
3" tools. It was strange.
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contractors
>
>
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I moved the washer dryer up to the 1st floor and used that new gas line.
It beats threading.
My Dad always was for using soft copper for gas. The low pressure was
his reason.
>
>
Mark M.
Don't much care for the yellow stuff inside walls. Thinking of the guy
who comes along later with a Sawsall.
MM
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"Mark M." <ma...@techz.net> wrote in message
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Oh.....I don't think I'd worry about the new gas line, its armoured after
all.
Soft copper is also allowed by code to run vertical in walls for water.
It must then terminate in a 90 45 or 22 1/2 or a T on end.
Mark M.
Huh? It's thin corrugated stainless steel covered with thin rubber.
MM
Jacket@yahoo.com Red Jacket
It felt tough to me. You have low gas pressure and to explode the right
air fuel mix is needed....look at some sand holes, you put it in no leaks.
The gas company comes and there is a leak from some sand hole.
that popped up from disturbing it.
It can drive you nuts.
IMHO I don't think a sawzall is any worry. Yeah, I'd say its armoured.
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