Pedestrian crash cor High & York

[Zack Barowitz]

(According to Reddit). 

Woman seriously injured. 

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[Winston Lumpkins]

I made the mistake of looking for that on reddit.  

I did learn a little about throw distances as I had to refute someone who doubted a person could be thrown 15-20 feet if they were in a crosswalk: 

It's pretty interesting how you can calculate how fast a car was going by how far the Pedestrian gets thrown... I think it's more than 15 or 20 feet so I was googling it. It's all PDF links, which is a risk I really should stop taking (virus risk) so I'll let you google it: "throw distance by speed Searle’s Method" An image link from google from that search: https://share.google/kFhpJqG01XOkyjQWc

Looking at some of the charts, it looks like someone can be easily thrown 12 METERS (up to 36 feet!) by a car moving 20-25 mph; there is a reason why cars moving faster than that typically kill people they hit. This was downhill; those charts assume it's flat I think. I also don't know how fast the car was going- at 40 mph that chart has someone being thrown up to 24 meters by a midsize car.

After looking that up, I would bet a substantial amount of cash that this woman was in the crosswalk, and that Joe Lewis was too. (the Man killed at India and Fore in the spring).

~Winston

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[Rauschpfeife]

A block from where I live. Yikes. It is an awful intersection. Judging by the picture on reddit  the driver must have been turning from York onto that block-long southbound leg of High. If the vic was in the crosswalk when she was hit, then it looks like she ended up 20 feet or so away. 

According to the Maine DOT database, another walker was hit there in 2021. If the marker is accurately placed, it looks like the same scenario. Screen shot attached. 

The report on Lewis is one of the ones we have. He was absolutely in the crosswalk; nobody, including the driver, contests this. 

"Throw distance" (grim phrase) is generally considered a good first-approximation for how fast the driver was going. There are lots of variables, of course; one of them is the mass of the car, since kinetic energy (the important quantity here) is a function of mass as well as speed. But in principle you could compensate for that. I mean, how big the car is -- that's readily ascertainable. 

When my outfit did our study of crashes in NYC, back in the day, we found that in the rare cases where the cops actually did a thorough follow-up investigation, they always looked at throw distance. Some shocking numbers there. 

I don't know whether this is routinely looked into in Portland. There's no place to record it on the crash report forms I've seen. Maybe if there's a follow-up investigation, it might be considered, who knows. 

Of course, if the victim is knocked down and run over (which is more likely with some kinds of cars than others) then there's no throw distance. That seems to have been the case with Cynthia Karst, at Congress & Franklin, back in November '24. Her glasses, however, were found quite some distance down the road, and the driver also finally stopped some distance down the road, judging by the diagram in the report. No measurements are given. 

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[Scsmedia]

We did a walk audit of York Street on May 28, 2024.  I took some pictures that day but none of that side of the intersection.  The construction barriers for the project on the East side of the street were still up and the street was one way up hill during construction.  They took the barriers down a couple of weeks after the walk and made High Street two way again from Commercial to York.  I went back to document the intersection, but sadly only took one photo on that side.  Google Street View has June 2019, Sept 2023 and December 2024 views of the corner.  They finally paved the sidewalk on that side in 2024.  I suspect snow clearing is spotty at best as the gas station owns the adjoining property and does not see it as part of their footprint.

June 2024 Photo

They bricked and installed the ramps between 2011 and 2015.  At some point they took up the pavement to add brick, but later decided to just repave it.  Most folks don't like brick on the hills any ways.

This was out only reference to the intersection.

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