Re: Jamorigin Midi Guitar Crack Torrent
Larae Mobus
I'm fiddling around with the demo version of MIDI Guitar. It's pretty good but I can't seem to be able to get low latency with the Line6 ASIO driver. Basically anything below 256 samples (included) sounds like crap... my computer is a quad core cpu, I have 12 gigs of RAM. I didn't think I'd have latency issues. :( Is it the Line6 driver? My computer? What is my problem here? Thanks for any help you can provide.
I'm not sure what your knowledge and experience is with MIDI - but it's not audio. The audio is being produced by the software application on your computer, and it seems to me that you need something in your setup that's translating your guitar audio to MIDI (digital information). The X3 has nothing to do with that. Is that what Jam Origin does? I'm not familiar with the Jam Origin product, but I don't think the problem is with any Line 6 equipment or driver.
Sorry, my bad: yes, I do use a Pod X3. That software translates pitch into midi. So it basically listens to what you play and recognizes the pitch, then outputs notes via MIDI. Problem is that I get quite high latency (> 10 ms) with the Pod X3 ASIO driver...
But the X3 ASIO driver is only responsible for delivering the audio signal to your PC, and playing back the audio signal it receives from your computer. It does that very well, with no latency. The latency is occurring inside your computer, within the Jam Origin software, during the translation from pitch to MIDI and the subsequent processing of the MIDI data back into audio using your VST or whatever processors. The same thing would be happening if you were to substitute any other audio interface for the X3.
Well I've been exchanging with another user on another forum who uses a M-Audio interface to connect his guitar to his PC (can't remember which, I think something like C-400?) and he has much lower latency. :huh:
Otherwise I think the latency differences are to be found in your respective computers' settings and performance characteristics rather than the audio interface. Ask the other user what his computer settings are for the Jam Origin application.
Yes, I've tried that, but unfortunately haven't had much luck. Under ASIO settings I have ASIO client: (none), default buffer size 256 and default bit depth 16 bit. I'm not sure what's the function of the USB audio streaming section. I've tried all the different settings in combination with the above, from extra small buffers to extra large, and nothing helps.
Again - I don't think the X3 driver or its settings are the cause of the latency.
You don't mention that you are recording, so I assume you are describing a lag/latency when just playing. I assume you are measuring latency from the instant you pluck your guitar note to the instant you hear the synthesized sound in the X3 headphones/outputs. I also assume the X3 preset/patch is doing no processing since you presumably want to send the dry signal to Jam Origin. Between those two instants, here's what's going on:
- the audio signal of your guitar note is sent virtually instantly, with no internal processing and hence no latency, from the X3 to your PC's USB port
- the Jam Origin software picks it up from there and must then process the incoming audio as follows:
---- convert the pitch to a note
---- generate the corresponding MIDI note on/off data (and perhaps other MIDI controller data depending on its sophistication as a MIDI processor)
---- send the MIDI data to a software-based MIDI sound synthesizer
---- which converts the MIDI to audio by applying the processing of the selected synthesizer
---- send the final audio signal back through the USB port to the X3
- the X3 then immediately, via hardware routing with no additional latency, routes the sound to its outputs.
You can see that all the processing is being done outside the X3, inside your computer, by the Jam Origin software and its (or other) MIDI synthesizers. That's what's taking the time, and that's why you are hearing the lag/latency.
For my little one-man-show I have an acoustic guitar and a microphone, both connected to my iPhone SE. Using AUM, I process the guitar through Tonebridge (to add some nice FX), and route the guitar and/or mic to Group the Loop (GTL, for live looping).
Being an iOS app, this would be the easiest solution. It translates the acoustic signal of the guitar into MIDI. But it is not too accurate with an acoustic guitar (compared to an electric one). And it is a bit cumbersome to route its MIDI to an AUv3 synth in AUM: as MG2 itself cannot be loaded as an AUv3 input, I would need to have the app running in the background, which adds more manual complexity (and more sources for problems) to my already complex setup around AUM and GTL. On the other side, it has some nice presets and FX (but I doubt I can assign any MIDI bindings to them so I could switch between them using my iRig BlueBoard foot controller) (UPDATE: MG2 does allow to assign midi CC to select settings).
Being an additional kind-of-pickup (which can be simply clenched between the guitar's strings and its body, next to the bridge), the TPC (like MG2) also translates the acoustic signal of the guitar into MIDI, but it is much more accurate, as it has a single little pickup for each string (and doesn't have to "guess" as much as MG2). While it adds some more bulk, it's relatively tiny. And it can easily be installed and removed (without altering the guitar), so I could use it with different guitars.
It connects via USB. As I already use a Camera Connection Kit to attach my external audio interface to my iPhone, I can simply add a small USB hub to allow for another connection. It even draws its power from USB, so no additional battery to be charged.
The TPC comes with a great looking app, but sadly it's only available for iPad. As far as I can read from this article, it should be possible to connect the TPC also directly to any MIDI synth, but I'm unsure whether the TPC still is indispensable for fine-tuning the MIDI signals so they are accurate enough for live performance. I mean - if I want to have an "inaccurate" solution, I could get the cheaper MG2 (above).
An additional benefit is that each single string can be sent to its individual MIDI channel. This allows for some more magic when reacting to it, e.g. to trigger a bass synth for the E, A, and D strings, while triggering another synth for the G, B, and e strings.
As my guitar's internal pickup has some problems, the TP might be a solution for that too, as it claims to be also a "normal" pickup (or am I getting it wrong? At least I can switch between guitar, synth, and both using a switch) - but how would the acoustic sound come to iOS then?
As there is no need to connect this thing (neither for MIDI nor for acoustic, assuming I don't misunderstand something fundamental here) I could get rid of my external audio interface, too. This could make up for the additional bulkiness of the thing. On the other side, an additional battery needs to be charged here.
Similar to the TP, but no wireless. As such it is a bit bulkier, but also it makes clear that the MIDI and acoustic signals are transmitted through cables (as such there are no questions whether an additional iOS software is needed). Still, I don't know how this compares regarding accuracy. And it seems to be harder to install to a guitar and non-removable (seems to be fixed using screws or something), which is a huge downside, as I don't want to alter the body of my guitar. In general, it doesn't really seem to be made for acoustic guitars.
RMS seems to have several acoustic pickups with an "acoustic to MIDI" solution built right into it. I didn't go though the different options yet, I'm a bit confused here, but they look promising, while also being expensive.
If their MIDI accuracy is very good (much better than the Roland or Fishmans), they might be worth a shot. But installation is very complex and needs to be done by a professional. And it definitely requires to alter the body of my guitar.
At the moment, I favour the TPC, as it is very straightforward to install, doesn't do any damage to my guitar's body, should be pretty accurate even without the specific app (at least I hope for this), connects straight to the MIDI input in AUM without any additional software running (I guess), and doesn't need an additional power source as its connected through USB.
But also MG2 is still very tempting, as it would be the most hassle-free solution installation-wise. So my biggest question might be: Will the Fishman Triple Play (WiFi or Connect version) be more accurate than iOS Midi Guitar 2, even when I cannot use the "Connect" iOS app (as I don't have an iPad, only an iPhone)?
I've got a Roland GK-2a with my GI-10 and it's about as inaccurate as the iOS/macOS Midi Guitar app is. Neither is perfect. The Roland one is a lot older so I imagine they've been able to use alien technology and artificially intelligent algorithms in Midi Guitar that weren't available (or allowed to be) back then. I took my pickup off when I got Midi Guitar.
A friend who has owned every guitar-to-MIDI solution says the TriplePlay is the only decent hardware solution. MG2, he says is close in quality if you play cleanly. I use MG2 and find it excellent for single note playing and ok for 3-4 note chords though chordal playing requires some adjustments in how I
play.
It would be really interesting whether this is true for only electric guitars, or also for acoustic ones. To be honest, I just tried MG2 again using a piezo pickup and using a microphone, and both does not result in very accurate MIDI.
I suspect the TriplePlay would be much more accurate on an acoustic than MG2, because it has a hexaphonic pickup which allows way better separation of each string than the "mess" of only one single signal from a standard piezo.
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