Windows 8 build 7850 is the official Milestone 1 build of Windows 8, which was originally uploaded to BetaArchive as an x86 Enterprise SKU version on 12 April 2011,[1] then on 17 January 2015, an x64 version of this build was uploaded to the aforementioned website along with additional SKUs for both the x86 and x64 architectures and its server counterpart.[2] It is the earliest available build of Windows 8 compiled for the x86 architecture. Files from the ARM32 compile of this build were discovered on the Microsoft Symbol Server on 24 May 2022.
This build utilizes a valid SHA-1 production-signing certificate (signed by the Microsoft Windows Verification PCA certificate chain, associated with Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL)) and can be booted and installed on the current date.
This build's Metro is almost identical to the previous build. The Start screen has a yellow-orange background in debug compilations of this build instead of the white background seen in free compiles. As of 2024, the reason behind this is unknown, but it is possibly made to test the accent color.
shell32.dll has code to print the hash ID in the about box and desktop watermark, which appears to fail in this build (hash ID is only printed if the function to obtain it succeeded). The public symbols for this build give a mangled name for this function as bool GetEulaHash(wchar_t*, size_t), although compiler or link-time optimizations removed and inlined the second argument (length of output string buffer in characters). The function retrieves the default value in the registry key HKLM\SYSTEM\WPA\478C035F-04BC-48C7-B324-2462D786DAD7-5P-9. This value must be REG_BINARY of size 128 bytes; this data is split into eight 16-byte buffers, Hash[n] is equal to the nth byte of each of the buffers XORed together.
We have a VisionTek Radeon HD7850 Video card installed in an Intel DX79TO desktop motherboard. We upgraded Windows 11, in January 2024. The Display adapter in no longer recognized by Windows and is listed as "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter", and the dual monitor arrange does not work (one monitor detected and is replicated on the second monitor). All the original Intel MB drivers are properly installed and there are no errors or warnings in Device Manager. We downloaded various AMD drivers for the HS 7850 card and none works.
Kinda surprised Microsoft didn't warn about that HD 7850 and prevent upgrading to Windows 11. That card is over a decade old and no longer supported, there are no Windows 11 drivers for it. Assuming you tried the last driver version available for Windows 10 which was 22.6.1 from June 2022? You might also try the Pro driver but that is older yet. If neither will work with Windows 11 then the only solution is to go back to Windows 10 or replace the card.
5-Upgrade your HD7850 to a supported AMD GPU Card. At the moment all "RX" series GPU cards are still supported but some of the earlier RX series GPU cards may have limited support though.
Thanks for the reply and suggestions. I have tried everything to resolve this HD7850 not being detected. No matter which driver I installed, including the ones from the R.ID site, the result is the same. Near the completion of the driver installation, the screen goes black nd I do not know if the driver was completely installed. After waiting about 3 mins each time, I powered off and rebooted normally. To a black screen. Booting to safe mode and checking Device Manager shows the HD 7850 shows as the detected display. Uninstalling the HD 7850, reverts the display to Microsoft Standard Display. After rebooting, I can use the computer. However, one monitor is detected in the dual monitor setup. It is time for me to think of rebuilding this box with a new hardware (MB, processor, RAM) to match todays Windows 11 23H2 and later OS requirement.
Hello, first time posting here! Been a casual PC tinkerer for years, but recently got into watching Phil's Computer Lab videos, which has gotten me playing around with my piles of computer parts again.
Anyways looks like Phil often uses a Radeon HD 7770 for high-end WinXP builds (when using AMD). Was surfing ebay and I ended up impulse-buying an ASUS Radeon HD 7850 1GB for 33USD total. (is that a decent price? I have no idea ?. I'm located in US)
Went to install the WinXP driver from AMD website (Catalyst 14.4 pack 2 dated 4/25/2014) and found it installed everything except the actual video driver. Found a video from Phil that mentioned using Snappy Driver to fix this issue, and that worked! Thanks for that Phil!
Finding the card doesn't really run all that great, I'm assuming because the CPU is really holding it back. (but could you confirm?) I'm mainly testing with Need for Speed Underground 2. Previously I was using an AMD FirePro V3900 1GB low profile card that I had on hand (which is same/similar as a Radeon HD 7570) but found it would have abrupt lag moments with Vsync on, and average just barely 60fps with Vsync off. (Full details, 1280x1024, centered timings, 4x AA 4x AF) Also worth noting, the game would sometimes crash now and then on the V3900 with Vsync off and these settings applied.
Thought the HD 7850 would help the situation, but found I can't really push past 4x AA and 4x AF either. Found the Vsync-on performance to be a bit better with less noticeable lags, but with Vsync off the game reliably crashes after 15 seconds or so of gameplay.
Also found GTA Vice City would not load at all with the HD 7850. When starting a new game it just sits and idles with a blank screen at the first cutscene. Doesn't lock up the computer, just acts like it's waiting for user input. This game seemed to generally work fine on the V3900, but I didn't test it extensively.
Another thing I noticed on the 7850 is the AMD Overdrive section in the Catalyst control panel is greyed out/disabled. Is this to be expected? (maybe it's not available in WinXP and/or this driver version?) Under Win7 it's available on the adrenaline control panel, so was able to at least test out the fan by using Win7. (FirePro doesn't list an overdrive section at all, I assume since it's not a Radeon card)
And finally, noticed the 7850 card makes a funny whistling/hissing sound when sitting idle. Not SUPER loud, but can be slightly annoying. Comes and goes with varying loudness. Doesn't really change with "load". (but NFSU2 may not be loading the card very much...) Speakers drown it out easily. Not coming from the card's fan - it occurs even when the fan is off. EDIT: seems to go away when the fan IS running
In vice city you may need a frame limiter - or at least try the game with the built in frame limiter turned on. GTA 3, VC and San Andreas have physics engines that run at 30fps (well "25 minus 5 fps") so the power is not really needed anyway. In 3 the menu won't load up properly (it will be invisible but navigatiable) if you run the game on modern hardware so hundreds of frames in the menu. Toggling my MSI afterburner frame limiter makes it appear and disappear.
The CPU should be OK and you're using an ssd, your hardware shouldn't be holding you back. Maybe try a monitoring tool and see if that reveals something when it lags. Also try playing without AA and see if that changes anything.
Cards usually whistle under load so idle could be a sign of an impending hardware failure. Is it consistent and just gets drowned out by other noise, or does it go away under load? Try more tests and see if a consistent issue emerges when the card is pushed. Crashing is a good sign of a problem.
I'm using a 3 Gb Radeon 7970 with Catalyst 14.4 (have not tried 13.12) in my 32-bit WinXP machine. For a CPU I'm running an AMD FX-8320 with one core per module disabled. I run at 2560 x 1440 where possible, and the 7970 has pretty nice performance. Eg it can push decently high levels of forced AA etc in games like Bioshock and be running at 100+ FPS or be in the 50 - 60 FPS range in Crysis with high setttings. At a guess a 7850 would be about 2/3 the performance of a 7970 on average, so should still be pretty good. I've got 4 Gb RAM installed and this plus the 3 GB VRAM of the 7970 does not cause any issues at all.
The other card I have installed in my WinXP machine is a GTX 780 - mostly to avoid rendering issues with Star Wars KOTOR, but I do test it out on other games as well. The GTX 780 can definitely push higher FPS than the 7970, although sometimes I find that a particular setting in the Catalyst Control Panel will kill performance on the 7970 more than I'd expect. Tweak that and FPS shoots back up.
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