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Magnhild Lachowicz
"Cum in a bitch, you're a snitch, cum in a man and I'm your biggest fan" is what the great Samurai told his disciples. The young disciple Pete-San decides to take this meaning to a whole new level, by taking revenge with the power...
The article is a mess; has a pointless list of his name in various languages, the characteristics and appearances sections are way too long and too in universe, and there is very little said about how he was created or acted. It needs to be improved or delisted since it doesn't meet GA criteria. Judgesurreal777 01:17, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Join now. Like the Death Eaters, but relatively nice fellows, except where cruft is concerned. Cruft must die for the Greater Good. This would be a Cabal-like group, trawling the Potter pages, killing cruft and OR without remorse, until the pages all make it to GA or better. Sign below if you want the voluntary tattoo/signal device (in the shape of a skelly barnstar) and 8-track tape on how to laugh evilly at the quailing of cruft-makers everywhere. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 17:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I propose that the article structure and headings that are standard for this project be changed to be more in line with the manual for writing about fiction. I have tried to change the headings and focus of some articles, getting ride of the heading "Fictional Character biography" and I keep getting reverted. A character biography is exactly NOT what is supposed to be in a fictional character article according to current guidelines, so let's update our article structure. Judgesurreal777 16:14, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Articles are inconsistent over whether the correct term is Department of Transport or Department of Transportation, leading in at least one case to a broken link. Would someone with access to the books like to check this out? Does it vary, perhaps, between the UK and US editions? Matchups 15:39, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion bring up another point. The UK version of hte first book is different from the US version and the films. I think that this is worth initially noting in articles that refer to it. Yes, the books were English-published books, but this is the English-language wiki, and the books were not differently titled due to translation issues. Furthermore, the first film - which is used as reference - was also called by Sorcerer's Stone. I think that ignoring that in favor of Anglophile pride seems foolish. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 20:21, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but isn't it supposed to be an admin who decides if an article is GA or not? I don't see anything which identifies Judgesurreal as an admin. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 09:09, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
I am getting a little confused over the consensus as to the usage of dates in the articles. Do we use them or not? Clearly, we don't use dates that are not specifically noted, as they are OR by supposition (ie, deduction). I recommend specific citation to separate the wheat from the chaff, and remove the cruft. Thoughts? - Arcayne (cast a spell) 15:33, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
I've been confused about this as well. I have a thought that I'd like some feedback on: where dates are included, instead of wikilinking to the real world date, would it perhaps be better to link to Chronology of the Harry Potter stories (I've already tested this on Neville's page)? Is this appropriate? Arcayne, on the chance that you don't read this, I'm going to bring this discussion to you talk page, as we're familiar with each other and I trust your judgment. Faithlessthewonderboy 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
This topic came up a few sections above. I went through the main characters from the first book/film and added the bit about the book/film being alternatively titled HP and the Sorcerer's Stone (actually, i just added in parenthesis: Sorcerer's Stone in the US) ) in one of the English-speaking markets. It is encyclopedic to note that in the major articles dealing with the first book, but I am not thinking it needs adding for characters who didn;t appear in the first book/film, or for passing references in other articles about the name switch. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 06:47, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello, once again I was unaware that there was a project group my edits were affecting and so here I am after being reminded/told that there was such a group. I am requesting that the succession boxes on the following five pages NOT be reverted for the course of a week. WP:WAF is undergoing a discussion to reimplement succession boxes into in-universe titles on specific articles and for specific titles. While I have already received one notice from a member of this group noting the unimportance and the lack of number for the title Headmaster of Hogwarts, I have nonetheless decided to use it as the example piece for the entire proposal at WT:WAF. I request members of this group to go there and discuss not the use of succession boxes for the title of headmaster, but for use in in-universe references. The following articles are affected:
Then you present a solution in WAF; you don't test-market them here to see if you can slip them in. Sorry, but the assumption of good faith went out the window when you called those people correctly reverting your edits vandals. The ONLY place for you to propose changes is either in WAF or the Village Pump. Period. Please do not revert or add succession obxes into any Harry Potter article until you have some sort of consensus to do so in in WAF. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 00:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
It has been repeatedly established that the events of the seven books should not be distilled to fit the theme of a "war" with discrete "battles", with the motif of the infobox wherein various fans argue over who "won" and "lost" and who the "commanders" were and what the "causus belli" was. I love the Harry Potter books, but I also believe that they are fine the way JK wrote them without adding this extra level of fan analysis. I think this WikiProject should come up with the appropriate style guidelines that it can discuss the events of the ends of books 5, 6, 7 and the biographies of the respective characters involved in them without having to recourse to non-canonical language like "Battle of the Astronomy Tower" and "Battle of the Department of Mysteries." I think that will be a prerequisite to being able to get some of these articles up to good or even featured article status. In particular this is a problem at Death Eaters, Dumbledore's Army, and Order of the Phoenix (organisation). The relevant policies are WP:NOR and WP:WAF. The relevant afd debates are here: Savidan 01:29, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
A character's gender will be obvious from the picture in the infobox, the character's name or, at the very least, from the pronoun used throughout the article. I suggest we remove 'Gender' from the infobox, considering how little it adds to the article. asyndeton 15:57, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
I've edited all articles to alter references such as HP1 to refer to the target of the redirect. For instance, HP6 is replaced by Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. As a matter of style, I strongly recommend that we refer to the books at all times by their titles, because although fans may easily assimilate the meaning of "HP5", the general reader will benefit from seeing the title. If the order of the book in the series is important, a phrase like "the sixth book in the series, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince" on the first reference to the book in an article or section, can be used. --Tony Sidaway 16:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
I have to say though, I just came across the edits Tony made to Lord Voldemort, and I'm a bit confused by it. For example, he replaced "sixth" with "sixth, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince." While I don't exactly have a problem with this, it strikes me as entirely unnecessary, and perhaps hurts the flow of the article. It just seems unnecessarily wordy, considering they link to the same place. Faithlessthewonderboy 23:02, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
As I've commented on the talk page, I genuinely believe that Emma Watson could, with proper peer review comments, fight a featured article nomination. If any project members have any comments, particularly about issues relating to our WikiProject, please do raise them on the Emma Watson talk page. Happy-melon 13:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)_FAC?","replies":[]}-->
A recently archived discussion concluded, according to WP:WAF, that articles about the content of the books must be written in the fictional present tense. Shouldn't this be priority, possibly on the to-do list, as I think just about every Project article uses the past tense? This could greatly help to make the articles seem less in-universe (such as these), and potentially deflect some of the waves of deletion nominations that we've seen recently. -Phi*n!x 21:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
We have 9 Good Articles and 1 featured list. I think we should be bold, and shoot for 9 more good articles by december, and 1 more featured article...Gotta shoot high! What does everyone think? Any articles to propose? Judgesurreal777 12:46, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Of late, many characters have had secific book titles, under the appearances section, turned into 'Third to sixth books' etc, such as here, which is often unaccompanied by any change in the content of the subtitles. Personally I don't see why we can't have 'Appearances' broken down into sub-sections that document each book individually, just for clarity's sake. Is there any reasoning behind this change? asyndeton 17:39, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to propose a change to the standards we have for referencing the books in articles. On the one hand we have the [HP1][HP3][HP5] tags, which are currently 'endorsed' by the project in as much as they appear on the /Templates page. These, however, only reference to one book or another - they are a very coarse reference. On the other hand we have Error: PS missing name (help)[PoA Ch.ch][OotP Ch.ch] tags, which are not currently endorsed. However, these allow (indeed require) chapter-level referencing, which makes them a much more fine-grade reference style. It's relatively easy to find the phrase which is being referenced by [DH Ch.3]. It's an absolute pig to find the phrase which is referenced by [HP7]. I'd like to propose, therefore, that the [HBP Ch.ch][DH Ch.ch] style tags replace the older [HP6][HP7] style as the version 'endorsed' by the project. Comments are, of course, requested. Happy-melon 20:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
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