Itrack 2
Kay Hamling
I have an older roland keyboard I have used as a midi controller for a while with a cheap usb-midi connector. When I reconnected everything it didn't work directly into ipad or through the itrack dock. I think the USB - Midi cable is shot
When I connect an Acorn 25 key midi keyboard to the usb input of the dock, nothing happens, but when I connect it directly to the ipad (via CCK) it works fine (different cable).
Then, when I connect launchpad pro (different cable) it works perfectly fine through the dock and directly into the ipad.
I switched cables and used the launchpad cable to connect the midi keyboard and it worked.
I guess my question is: is it possible that certain cables can handle a certain signal from the midi keyboard to the itrack dock and some can't? Could this be an issue with the itrack dock port?
Any insight would be useful
thanks
The lenght and the quality of the cable could affect the behaviour. If you check old mfi hardware like irig midi (30 pins) it could charge the iPad but it requires its own (shorten) usb cable. With another not totally guaranteed it will work.
ITOH since lightning came iOS users had reported different behaviours with the new cck3usb against old cck (lightning and 30pins) related to handle external controllers energy giving some of them the report that new cck3 needs powered hub where olds don't.
So, try the failing cable with hub or psu if you can to be sure. Btw the worst part is related to itrack dock which can handle usb hub and I'm not sure if it can be plugged powered gear into it without issues.
In this moment i'm able to connct all my novation device (pad, key controll) with a powered usb and CCK to iPad, but this is not possible with the iTrack, because itrack not recognize the Usb powerd hub, but only midi class compliant device.
Because I use itrack for many things, like live playing (bass guitar and Yonac + keith mcmillen 12 step with taurus) and this is working perfecly, Expanding this device will be me able to attach also a launchkey or launchpad to my keith mcmillen 12 step, with a docking station that charge the ipad with two audio input that I can use in the same time and a midi features......
The iPad Dock is very funny with keyboards. Some work, some don't - there seems to be little relationship between class compliance and whether it'll work with this interface. For example, my Arturia Minilab doesn't work (but is class compliant and works just fine when connected directly to the iPad), whereas my Elektron Analog Keys does work through a USB MIDI converter. It's a shame - it's the one big flaw with the device and is the reason I don't use it as much as I otherwise would.
@Wego said:
Because I use itrack for many things, like live playing (bass guitar and Yonac + keith mcmillen 12 step with taurus) and this is working perfecly, Expanding this device will be me able to attach also a launchkey or launchpad to my keith mcmillen 12 step, with a docking station that charge the ipad with two audio input that I can use in the same time and a midi features......
You can do ALL of this without it in a CCK3 setup with something like the AudioHub ie (even charging the iPad which was the worst drawback until these new cck emerged) but you will need a lot of extra gear to keep the actual setup with iTrack... but since I want to help let's see which could be these expensive setup.
Bass guitar ----> iTrack inputs ----> Yonak app
KM12s ----> KM expander (to get midi din) ----> usbmidi 2x2?4x4?
Launchkey -----> kenton host ----> usbmidi------^
Launchpad (pro) -----------------------^
Launchkey and launchpad throught midi conversion will not be recognized from Launchpad App, take it in mind. Launchpad app need a direct connection that will keep your iTrack usb port busy. There isn't any usb hub that can solve that... so for other apps no problem for Novation apps forget it.
NOTE: The USB port on the iTrack Dock is designed for connecting MIDI controllers directly. We do not support the connection of USB hubs to the port. We also do not support the connection of other sorts of USB device (i.e. a USB interface) - the port is for MIDI controllers only.
It's not losing with technology, it's to gain the knowledge to understand that these hate is the frustration of trying something impossible (even with a iTrack firmware update... since probably the usb port can't support hub for a physical reason due to ic involved or due to apple mfi restrictions.)
It was going to support usb hub attached to its usb host but... it never arrived to market (due to mfi as I could state asking to its developers in every single social network, contsct form and mail) and few months later it become irrelevant due the cck3.
The last time I check Kenton support was for class compliant midi hardware. I supose it has some limitations since iTrack also support midi class compliant but there are list of "tested, working and don't" even in the Focusrite FAQ so if you decide go that route just drop a mail to kenton with your specific hardware list.
Because the info about how iTrack usb works is clear and the iOS audio input output behaviour is also well documented (you only can use two different audio interfaces if one is input and other is output; if one of them has booth then the first you plug take the control... it could be interesting do some testing in order and results to clearify 100% but for the vast majority of users the claim "iOS only supports one audio interface (and the integrated one as complement)" is all they need to avoid the idea of "aggregated devices" from OSX.
With this in mind why to plug a AudioHub into iTrack dock when:
Anyways you can try and figure by yourself, maybe you find an expensive workaround to keep the iTrack. Maybe Novation releases an mk2 with hub (low probability since Apple seems ditch the iPad mini) but my last advice is to split your setup with another idevice where you can plug the other pieces you miss. Hint: launchpad app only works with launch series under iPad, not on iPhones/iPods...
When connecting my iPad air2 to the focusrite itrack dock ( music recording interface) I am experiencing interferance noise, the weird thing is though is that my wife's ipad air2 does not cause this noise. The only potential difference between the iPads is the apps installed, so I've made sure no apps are running on mine but the issue still remains. I have also taken my iPad to the music shop and tried a 2nd dock and my iPad affected that one as well, Am I missing anything Obvious?
I had the same issue, no sound, what I did is reset i iPad hod the home button and power button at the same time, until iPad turns offs and restarts while still holding buttons, and while in the focusrite itrack dock, the power off the track and turn back on, I also disabled background refresh and put in airplane mode, all is well and working.
I have tried various alternatives and still the noise persists. I have noticed that the noise doesn't show up until the ipad is fully charged. It sounds like there is just too much electricity flowing around once the charging process is complete. My house electrics are pretty old and it has a lot of electrical devices plugged in which can cause noise and interference with other items. I am still looking for a solution to this, please let me know if you've had any luck your end? Very kind regards ?
I am having the same problem with an iPad Mini 2. As long as the iPad is not fully charged, there is no interference. But when it is 100% charged, there is a screeching noise coming from within the iTrack Dock. The noise is also audible in recordings and the analog outputs. When I change the brightness of the screen, the noise also changes but it never disappears. I have tried a different power supply. No luck.
I have this problem when using Novation launchpad app. Spent 3 hrs with Novation techies on chat no solution. They suspect faulty dock if not ipad. I am using ipad air 2. But some trick which might work for you
I was having the crackling and popping issue many here have described when trying to record in GarageBand in the iPad using the iTrack Dock. I resolved this issue by disabling the "background app refresh" option in the iPad's settings. I discovered this solution by chance. I got curious and wondered what would happen if I put my iPhone 6 on the iTrack Dock, and I was surprised to find that I was able to record in the iPhone version of GarageBand flawlessly using the iTrack. In fact, I had multiple tracks of the Guitar Amp going along with the drum machine and while enabling various effects and switching from Track to Perform view, etc. I could not throw the iTrack off it's game! I noticed that the "background app refresh" setting was disabled on my phone so I figured I'd try making that change on the iPad, and boom -- issue solved. I really hope this helps others. Don't return your iTrack -- it is a rad piece of gear once you make this tweak to your settings. rock on