Comment letter re Terminal Disclaimer rule

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David Boundy

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Jul 4, 2024, 6:46:36 PM7/4/24
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Dear colleagues:

Another sign-on letter, re the Terminal Disclaimer rule.  This letter is due July 9, 2024 (next Tuesday).  However, I’m going to be on vacation in Montana.  I may have to close signatures as early as Monday evening.  Don't know yet.

The PTO’s Notice of Proposed Rulemaking is here: 

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2024-05-10/pdf/2024-10166.pdf

My draft letter is here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15sr-xnyUFmxEi_nvvQ641uVgqrn63R-a/view?usp=sharing

The signon sheet is here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kGUMGIwyr0RFqJIX97D8p_QAdlIAjQxUISu9W-UEz48/edit?usp=sharing

This is still a draft letter.  If you think you have something to add (or subtract) (or edit), please send me an email, and I will send you the .doc.  If you don't like to sign works in progress, wait til Monday.

If you want to submit your own comment, go here https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/05/10/2024-10166/terminal-disclaimer-practice-to-obviate-nonstatutory-double-patenting , and go to the big green “submit a comment” box.



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Jul 5, 2024, 7:29:51 AM7/5/24
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Thanks.  Lots of the other letters are making that argument.  In contrast, I'm the only person in the country with the expertise specific to the law of rulemaking.  So I'm keeping my focus on that.

The real audience here is OMB and SBA.  This letter is a catalog the PTO's contempt for the rule of law.  After we send it to the PTO, I will forward it to OMB and SBA, as "impeachment" evidence in their upcoming reviews of the fee-setting rule, and on-going review of the DOCX rule.

On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 7:16 AM Irving Fishman <ifis...@irvfishmanlaw.com> wrote:

David:

 

Maybe I missed it in your draft letter, but since the law is clear that each claim is judged for validity purposes independently of the others, it seems to me that the proposed rules making “unenforceable” all claims in any patent tied or at one time tied” to another patent in which even a single claim is held unenforceable is so directly contrary to statute and beyond court directive as to be beyond regulatory authority.   This requirement is not needed for the administration of the patent system at all.  Couching the requirement in terms of “unenforceability” rather than “validity” is simply disingenuous and smoke and mirrors.

 

 

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Jul 5, 2024, 3:52:49 PM7/5/24
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David,

Thanks for all the work you put into this; it is much appreciated.

---Gerry

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Comment letter re Terminal Disclaimer rule

Dear colleagues:

Another sign-on letter, re the Terminal Disclaimer rule. This letter is
due July 9, 2024 (next Tuesday). However, I’m going to be on vacation
in Montana. I may have to close signatures as early as Monday
evening. Don't know yet.

The PTO’s Notice of Proposed Rulemaking is here:

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2024-05-10/pdf/2024-10166.pdf

My draft letter is here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15sr-xnyUFmxEi_nvvQ641uVgqrn63R-a/view?usp=sharing

The signon sheet is here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kGUMGIwyr0RFqJIX97D8p_QAdlIAjQxUISu9W-UEz48/edit?usp=sharing

This is still a draft letter. If you think you have something to add
(or subtract) (or edit), please send me an email, and I will send you
the .doc. If you don't like to sign works in progress, wait til Monday.

If you want to submit your own comment, go here
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/05/10/2024-10166/terminal-disclaimer-practice-to-obviate-nonstatutory-double-patenting
, and go to the big green “submit a comment” box.


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David Boundy

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Jul 5, 2024, 7:04:30 PM7/5/24
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Dear colleagues:

With help from several people, updated letter re the Terminal Disclaimer rule.  This letter is due July 9, 2024 (next Tuesday).  It's pretty much done (becase of a vacation, I have only an hour or two left before Tuesday -- I haev to pack, get some paying work done, family stuff -- down to pretty much just proofreading)   I may have to close signatures as early as Monday evening -- I don't know.

The PTO’s Notice of Proposed Rulemaking is here: 

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2024-05-10/pdf/2024-10166.pdf

My draft letter is here (updated just now):

If you think you have something to add (or subtract) (or edit), please send me an email, and I will send you the Word doc.  Reply to just little old me, not "Reply All."

If you want to submit your own comment, go here https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/05/10/2024-10166/terminal-disclaimer-practice-to-obviate-nonstatutory-double-patenting , and go to the big green “submit a comment” box.

Thank you

David

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David Boundy

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Jul 6, 2024, 7:09:45 PM7/6/24
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Dear colleagues:

Updated letter re the Terminal Disclaimer rule.  This letter is due July 9, 2024 (Tuesday).  If you are waiting for it to be done done (except typos) before you sign, well, now it's time (I'm going to be in airplanes all day Sunday, and on bumpy roads most of Monday). The signature cutoff will likely be 9PM Monday (eastern).

The PTO’s Notice of Proposed Rulemaking is here: 

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2024-05-10/pdf/2024-10166.pdf

My draft letter is here (updated at 7PM Saturday):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15sr-xnyUFmxEi_nvvQ641uVgqrn63R-a/view?usp=sharing

The signon sheet is here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kGUMGIwyr0RFqJIX97D8p_QAdlIAjQxUISu9W-UEz48/edit?usp=sharing

If you think you have something to add (or subtract) (or edit), please send me an email, and I will send you the Word doc.  Reply to just little old me, not "Reply All."

If you want to submit your own comment, go here https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/05/10/2024-10166/terminal-disclaimer-practice-to-obviate-nonstatutory-double-patenting , and go to the big green “submit a comment” box.

Thank you

David

David Boundy

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Jul 8, 2024, 11:27:59 AM7/8/24
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Dear colleagues:

Last call for signatures on a letter re Terminal Disclaimers.   Signatures close at 10AM (eastern) Tuesday June 9.

The PTO’s Notice of Proposed Rulemaking is here: 

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2024-05-10/pdf/2024-10166.pdf

My draft letter is here (updated just now -- thanks to Bruce Young and Jeff Semprebon for catching typos):

If you want to submit your own comment, go here https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/05/10/2024-10166/terminal-disclaimer-practice-to-obviate-nonstatutory-double-patenting , and go to the big green “submit a comment” box.

Thank you

David

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David Boundy

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Jul 9, 2024, 12:07:37 PM7/9/24
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Thank you all.   Submitted.   It'll be visible in a day or two at regulations.gov

Today, it's visible at SSRN (with a goofed up title)  https://ssrn.com/abstract=4889906
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