Outbox wont send after connection to node established

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Dave

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Sep 13, 2022, 10:34:50 AMSep 13
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I can connect to a node over HF, but we will just ping pong back and forth keeping the connection alive but my outbox with messages will not send.  Any idea where to begin?

Martin Hebnes Pedersen

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Sep 13, 2022, 12:34:54 PMSep 13
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Hi Dave,

Please share your log output from the terminal 😊

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I can connect to a node over HF, but we will just ping pong back and forth keeping the connection alive but my outbox with messages will not send.  Any idea where to begin?

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Dave

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Sep 13, 2022, 5:22:19 PMSep 13
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Attached log. I can make connection no issue, but trying to send outbox hits alot of Decode errs, coming back from the node.
bad ardop.txt

Martin Hebnes Pedersen

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Sep 14, 2022, 5:37:15 AMSep 14
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Can you provide the output from Pat as well please? 😊

Dave

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Sep 14, 2022, 7:46:50 AMSep 14
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Where do I find the Pat logs?  I have the ARDOP Debug/session but not sure where PAT is. Thanks!

Dave

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Sep 14, 2022, 7:51:04 AMSep 14
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Found it. Not much in that log at all.. 
2022/09/14 07:31:14 Connecting to K4PAR (ardop)...
2022/09/14 07:31:27 Connected to K4PAR (ardop)
2022/09/14 07:33:02 Exchange failed: connection lost
2022/09/14 07:33:03 QSX ardop: 7102.300
2022/09/14 07:49:11 QSY ardop: 7102.3
2022/09/14 07:49:14 Waiting for clear channel...

Dave

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Sep 14, 2022, 7:52:16 AMSep 14
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The Radio is a IC7300 and I am using a Rpi 4 (made using Build-a-Pi).

Jim Weisgram

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Sep 14, 2022, 11:12:45 AMSep 14
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Here's a shot in the dark.. 

Have you tried a different gateway? I've found that on occasion I cannot send to a gateway but another gateway will work. 

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Dave

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Sep 14, 2022, 2:39:25 PMSep 14
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Thanks Jim. Yes I have established connections to a handful but each has failed in the same way, where Frame Decode errors and CRC errors

Jose Guzman

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Sep 14, 2022, 6:47:40 PMSep 14
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Thats what I get when I connect to my RMS Packet.....i connect but never seen the outbox to send anything.......yet connection to CMS is tested several times and shows success at .06 sec



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Dave

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Sep 14, 2022, 7:30:07 PMSep 14
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I am able to send fine using telnet so its definitely a transport issue. I tried alot of different radio audio settings, increased CI-V baud to 115K on radio, attempted to increase my audio gain on the Pi.. No avail, not sure if I am going down the right path. I only seem to have issues with the FSK4 packets. I am able to connect, and ID frame fine with multiple gateways.  I wonder if anyone else has this combo, Build a Pi, IC7300?

Dave

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Sep 15, 2022, 8:00:40 AMSep 15
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So useful datapoint.  I was able to connect to a gateway at 500 and send a message.. so seems like a slower send is working (alot of gateways reject if i force a slower rate).. so maybe that points me to audio, where sending fast and combination with my 7300 audio to the Pi has something to do with it...

[ARDOPprotocol.ProcessRcvdARQFrame]  END received ... going to DISC state
************************* ARQ session stats with VE3HJL  3 minutes ****************************
     LeaderDetects= 67   AvgLeader S+N:N(3KHz noise BW)= 0.527993 dB  LeaderSyncs= 67
     AvgCorrelationMax:MaxProd= 60.092747 over 67  correlations
     FrameSyncs=67  Good Frame Type Decodes=66  Failed Frame Type Decodes =1
     Avg Frame Type decode distance= 0.029599 over 65 decodes
 
  FSK:
     Good FSK Data Frame Decodes= 13  RecoveredFSKCarriers with Summation=0  Failed FSK Data Frame Decodes=7
     AccumFSKTracking= 0   over 1760 symbols   Good Data Frame Decodes= 13   Failed Data Frame Decodes=7
 
  PSK:
     Good PSK Data Frame Decodes=1  RecoveredPSKCarriers with Summation=0  Failed PSK Data Frame Decodes=4
     AccumPSKTracking=0  0 attempts over 1116 total PSK Symbols
 
  Squelch= 5 BusyDet= 5 Mode Shift UPs= 1   Mode Shift DOWNs= 4  Link Turnovers= 6
 
  Received Frame Quality:
     Avg 4FSK Quality=86 on 61 frame(s)
     Avg 4PSK Quality=69 on 5 frame(s)

Type              ACKS  NAKS
4FSK.200.50S.E      24     1
4PSK.200.100S.E      0     2
4PSK.200.100.E       0     1
4PSK.500.100.E       0     1
8PSK.500.100.E       0     0
16QAM.500.100.E      0     0

Martin Hebnes Pedersen

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Sep 15, 2022, 8:38:27 AMSep 15
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Could it be a filter issue? 🤔 Maybe your radio is set at 500 Hz DSP bandwidth filter? That would only work for lower speeds.

It could also be bad SNR due to a high noise level.

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Dave

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Sep 15, 2022, 4:33:28 PMSep 15
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I double checked my filters to match the ConAck mode but cant get anything over 500. Even 500 is not very good, alot of NAKs but eventually gets the job done.  So still searching but atleast with some patience and time i can send and recv.
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