Passport or Island Packet?

[Frank Grek]

Hey Passport Owners,

I thought I'd ask all of you why you chose a Passport. I'm also
considering an Island Packet 38. Why do you think the Passport 40 is
superior to an IP 38?

Thanks,
Frank

[Michael Dobbs]

Don't have much time on an IP 38.  What I like about my Passport 40:
 
1.  Engine is in the salon so have essentially 100% access to the engine.  Most can be accessed by just taking off a cover, and then the whole table and table frame can be disassembled pretty quickly to get unfettered access.
2.  I like pullman berths, but i think many of the IP 38s have that as well.
3.  Love all the storage on the P40.
 
Beyond that, I suspect that they may be similar...but that the 40 may have a little more room.
 

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[Jon Ash]

Ahoy Frank: What is the difference between a good friend and a best friend

[Larry Rovin]

The IP 38 is roomy and comfortable. What it is not is particularly good at sailing. I have a friend with one who calls it his trawler. Another friend who owns a boatyard thinks IPs look more bluewater than they are. Passport, Valiant, Pacific Seacraft, Caliber, etc. are the way to go. 

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[Herman Diebler]

Frank - I have sailed in company with a number of IP 38s. I have
noticed that their pointing ability is greatly limited. They can not
sail or motor sail close the wind without luffing their headsail and
the a staysail does not seem to help. One of the problem is the
limited
sheeting angle afforded by the outboard chainplates and the large
spreaders. If you notice the P40's chainplates are inboard with
shorter spreaders making for a tighter sheeting angle. When you add a
staysail to a P40 you can easily motorsail within 10 degrees to
windward getting lift from both the staysail and the main. This is
particularily valuable when one has to go to windward in the trades.
There were many times that I could leave and IP38s had to wait for a
better angle.

Relative to IP and others of the cruising class, I have found the P40
to be an outstanding, unmatched performer. Being in very heavy
conditions I have found that it knew what to do when I didn't.


It's design is timeless and built knowing what is required in a
cruising sailboat. The interior can not be compared with a IP38. It
is
a fine traditional boat.


Get in your dingy, go ashore and coming back to your boat, look at
the
IP38 and then the P40, and then tell me which boat you would like to
own!


Herman Diebler
S/V Grendel
http://svgrendel.com

[Frank Grek]

Wow. Great. These are exactly the kind of things i'd like to hear
about. Thanks to everybody for helping educate me on the virtues of
the Passport 40.

Frank

> S/V Grendelhttp://svgrendel.com

[Barry Kaplan]

I've put a fair number of miles (1200+) on a IP46 in the BVI's and from the BVI's to Norfolk. The build quality of IP is great. Just as solid as a Passport. Engine access is pretty good but (on some IPs) does require sometimes using a hatch in the aft stateroom. The storage on the IP is great. And the aft lockers are vast.

But as for sailing my P42 blows the doors off an IP46. The IP is a shallow(ish) full keel, so lift from the keel is much less efficient upwind. Often when tacking with any kind of seas we had to use the engine to the bow around. (Well, that could have been bad seamanship. But it was during training classes and captain couldn't get the bow around either ;-) IMHO, the balance on my P42 seems way better than the IP. 

-barry

-mistress.quickly P42