Yirme of Canada

[Zvi]

Shalom Ya`aqov and Yohanan, Shavu`a Tov.

This guy wanted to apply to this group during the Hag and asked for my
assistance.

I helped him but an argument also developed over his notion that this
group was mine.

The last message he wrote me, before blocking me and banning me from
his Karaites Caanda, on April 13, was:

"OK - It doesn't make any sense to me either but it did happen - I
have no intentions to cause you strife - just to protect you".

Please deny any request from this bozo to join this group. His
presence will cause "bad feelings and negative energy" as Melech is
fond of stating. He's an insolent a-hole.


Zvi

[Zvi]

I forgot... - he didn't have even 1 syllable of thanks for my
assistance. All he could concentrate on was his offended pride/honor
because of my rather tame response to his idiotic notion that this
group was mine [sic].

After checking from my other Fb account I'm under the impression he
has closed his Qaraite group and his account. So I think I'll spare
him a "lashing" on 'Karaites'.

-Zvi

[Bill Danielson]

Shalom Zvi

This is about the most hilarious post I have ever seen from you. :)

I have to congratulate Yirme for standing his ground. I have talked
with Yirme and he seems like a decent guy.

If I may, is it possible you are ashamed of this little argument you
had with him and that might be the reason you just want him excluded
from the community? Please, your personal issues with others does not
belong in the public arena. I certainly hope that Yirme will be given
his opportunity in this forum should he decide to become a part of it.
Allow the moderators to do their duty. I think everyone would be
able to live with another bought of your so-called "bad feelings and
negative energy".

Shavua tov!
Benjamin

2012/4/14 Zvi <zvi.tor...@gmail.com>:

--
Bill Danielson
http://webpages.charter.net/danielsonw

[Zvi]

Shalom Binjamin,

I didn't expect a different reaction from you -- evil is good and good
is bad...

I hope the admins will be more considerate toward me after you
welcomed Melech's arrival to this group in a display of total
insensitivity, notwithstanding my apology to you.

You my "friend" have a rather recurring issue of flamboyant lack of
tact which is a problem area you ought to work on.

Zvi

On Apr 15, 9:52 am, Bill Danielson <bill.daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Shalom Zvi
>
> This is about the most hilarious post I have ever seen from you.  :)
>
> I have to congratulate Yirme for standing his ground.  I have talked
> with Yirme and he seems like a decent guy.
>
> If I may, is it possible you are ashamed of this little argument you
> had with him and that might be the reason you just want him excluded
> from the community?  Please, your personal issues with others does not
> belong in the public arena.  I certainly hope that Yirme will be given
> his opportunity in this forum should he decide to become a part of it.
>  Allow the moderators to do their duty.  I think everyone would be
> able to live with another bought of your so-called "bad feelings and
> negative energy".
>
> Shavua tov!
> Benjamin
>

> 2012/4/14 Zvi <zvi.torahkee...@gmail.com>:

[Bill Danielson]

Shalom Zvi

I do not get where you believe I invited Melech to this forum. Ahh,
yes, of course, you are insulted that I mentioned it would not hurt to
have him as part of the forum. Cute Zvi! I like it. Figured since
he had no power in the forum, you and he would have a nice debate
going on. Keep smiling zvi, sometimes you should beware of what you
ask for.

As for my tact, I will adjust mine when I feel you have adjusted
yours. But honestly, I still consider you a friend. But from what I
know of Yirme, I have nothing against him.

Benjamin

2012/4/15 Zvi <zvi.tor...@gmail.com>:

--
Bill Danielson
http://webpages.charter.net/danielsonw

[Bill Danielson]

Shalom again

I support your strong views; but you need to respect other views that are based on Torah. Look at the situation, yirme asks your help with his web site in order to promote karaism. Somehow he offends you and he kicks you out. Now you think this guy does not deserve to be part of the community. Does it honestly make sense?  It does not add up for me, sorry... Lol

Benjamin

[Zvi]

Shalom Benjamin,,,,

"yirme asks your help with his web site in order to promote karaism.
Somehow he offends you and he kicks you out. "

Either you've dabbled in a bit of satire or this represents a reading
comprehension deficit in regards to my first 2 posts. In either case
you've distorted the facts beyond recognition and indulged in
hyperbole borne out by saying "Now you think this guy does not deserve

to be part of the community."

YHWH bless,
Zvi

On Apr 15, 11:53 am, Bill Danielson <bill.daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Shalom again
>
> I support your strong views; but you need to respect other views that are
> based on Torah. Look at the situation, yirme asks your help with his web
> site in order to promote karaism. Somehow he offends you and he kicks you
> out. Now you think this guy does not deserve to be part of the community.
> Does it honestly make sense?  It does not add up for me, sorry... Lol
>
> Benjamin
>
>
> On Sunday, April 15, 2012, Bill Danielson wrote:
> > Shalom Zvi
>
> > I do not get where you believe I invited Melech to this forum.  Ahh,
> > yes, of course, you are insulted that I mentioned it would not hurt to
> > have him as part of the forum.  Cute Zvi!  I like it.  Figured since
> > he had no power in the forum, you and he would have a nice debate
> > going on.  Keep smiling zvi, sometimes you should beware of what you
> > ask for.
>
> > As for my tact, I will adjust mine when I feel you have adjusted
> > yours.  But honestly, I still consider you a friend.  But from what I
> > know of Yirme, I have nothing against him.
>
> > Benjamin
>

> > 2012/4/15 Zvi <zvi.torahkee...@gmail.com>:

[Kphiyr]

Shalom Haverim,

This is a bit off subject, but I for one would not be opposed to
Melech joining this group. He has been banned from joining here for a
decent amount of time now. My only two requests would be:

1. That Melech would make amends with Yohanan, and Yaaqov if he has
not already done so.

2. That Melech would agree to fully turn from his ways and not go
through a Gentile company to circumvent any Jew on this forum.


Also under those two guidelines, I can see no reason to not welcome
Michal on this forum. She has already made amends, and I don't believe
she had a part in #2.

Quite frankly we all of the current moderators/owners did wrong on
TE in regards to the situation, except for maybe Yaaqov.

I certainly don't think Melech should not be allowed to gain
admittance here because he may create bad feelings here. From my
understanding this forum was created so we could have less restriction
than what we had on TE.

Kphiyr

[Zvi]

Shalom Haverim,

I don't want to discuss characters of individuals writing here, so
I'll limit myself to the content of the comment above mine.

The latest comment is quite a wad of horseshit.

1. This group's raison d'etre was it was established as an
_alternative_ *because* "Hakham" Melech pirately overtook Torath_Emeth
so that he could ensure I'd remain out of it.

2. Melech has shown no contrition, no remorse and no willingness to
turn his back on his sinful ways, nor has he approached me to
apologize for the persecution he inflicted upon me. When the day
arrives that he has done all of that there will be justification for a
reassessment about him.

3. If allowed to join, MBY would keep complaining about me here in
every opportunity he seizes upon and attempt to harry me which is
totally unacceptable to me, and I believe also to the owners here.
In particular, why "the hell" should such an individual effectively be
rewarded for and after constantly generating negative energy and bad
feelings on another forum while he was continuously whinging that I
was doing that on that same forum (rhetorical question)?

4. Michal has NOT apologized to me for her failure to condemn her pal
Melech's behavior in exploiting my private correspondence to Julie/
Rachel for the purpose of removing me from TE, nor has she taken him
to task for his recurring other lies to my knowledge.

Kphiyr has free speech rights like the rest of us. I'll conclude that
I would've thought someone like Kphiyr would wisen a bit with the
passage of time and the massing of experience, but alas, this hasn't
happened.

Having said all of this, I guess I should now expect to witness
another outpouring of contra-wisdom (cough cough...), but directed at
me specifically.

In YHWH we walk,
Zvi

[Bill Danielson]

Shalom all

No I give up on the subject

Benjamin

[Zvi]

Shalom l'khulam,

Just wished to add an afterthought. Kphiyr probably just wanted to
offend me for heaping scorn riddled with epithets upon Yirme.
Otherwise, Kphiyr had forgotten that Melech could bite him as well in
that if Melech is admitted into this group Kphiyr might end getting
hurt as well.
Some people never internalize their lesson.

Zvi

[kphiyr]

Shalom Haverim,

I'm unaware of the issues between Zvi and Yirme, and quite frankly it isn't my business. Since the exchange didn't happen publicly and over this board, it shouldn't be known over this forum.

I find no reason why Yirme, or Michal can not join this forum.

If Melech does or has done those two things that I've stipulated before - I would think he should be allowed to come back. My personal feelings towards Melech is irrelevant.

Kphiyr

[Bill Danielson]

On the contrary, I personally (my opinion counts very little) do not
see any reason for Melech to be allowed into this forum - he has gone
beyond the bounds of morality to say the least, in my humble opinion.
After experiences I have had with Zvi (no offense Zvi), I do not see
any reason why Yirme or Michal would not be welcomed here. It is up
to them and moderators whether they wish to join or not. Be well,
Kphiyr and Zvi...

Benjamin

--
Bill Danielson
http://webpages.charter.net/danielsonw

[kphiyr]

Shalom Ben,

For what it's worth your opinion has always been of value to me my friend.

I don't think it is likely that Melech has tried to make amends with both parties and will turn from his ways - so all of this may be mute. I do however believe that he would be entitled to forgiveness if he turned and sought it. It bothers me as I do see some goodness in some of the things Melech has done for Qaraites.

Kphiyr

[Bill Danielson]

Shalom Kphiyr

Melech has created many difficulties for himself by design. It seems
as if Zvi also enjoys causing troubles but in a completely different
kind of way. I have a greater respect for Zvi than I do for Melech
cause Zvi is clearly humble while Melech is not. In my humble
opinion, Zvi does not seem to require any recognition while Melech
seems to require it at every turn. I have learned much more than
biblical law from Zvi, even if he can be the biggest pain this side of
creation. On the other hand, for me personally, Melech just rubs me
the wrong way. So says me.

With the greatest respect,
Benjamin

[Bill Danielson]

of course, zvi has become a major made for himself a name and become a
major influence here... :)

Benjamin

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Bill Danielson

[Bill Danielson]

of course, zvi has made a name for himself and became an influence here.

Benjamin

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Bill Danielson

[Zvi]

Shalom l'khulam,

Kphiyr may be surprised to witness this, but I incline to agree with
him that my issue with Yirme's clowning shouldn't have been broached
over this forum.

Other than that my opinion about Kphiyr's latest musings remains the
same.

May YHWH bless you,
Zvi

On Apr 17, 7:52 am, kphiyr <kph...@kphiyr.com> wrote:
> Shalom Haverim,
>
> I'm unaware of the issues between Zvi and Yirme, and quite frankly it isn't my business. Since the exchange didn't happen publicly and over this board, it shouldn't be known over this forum.
>
> I find no reason why Yirme, or Michal can not join this forum.
>
> If Melech does or has done those two things that I've stipulated before - I would think he should be allowed to come back. My personal feelings towards Melech is irrelevant.
>
> Kphiyr
>

[Zvi]

Shalom Binyamin,

I have not taken offense and I'm grateful for the indirect
compliments.
I respect your approval of Michal and Yirme's entry into this group
while I keep disagreeing with it and hope that at least Michal will
not be allowed into here until she has issued the statements I
referred to in my retort to Kphiyr's first post.


Kol Tuv,
Zvi

On Apr 17, 8:25 am, Bill Danielson <bill.daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On the contrary, I personally (my opinion counts very little) do not
> see any reason for Melech to be allowed into this forum - he has gone
> beyond the bounds of morality to say the least, in my humble opinion.
> After experiences I have had with Zvi (no offense Zvi), I do not see
> any reason why Yirme or Michal would not be welcomed here.  It is up
> to them and moderators whether they wish to join or not.  Be well,
> Kphiyr and Zvi...
>
> Benjamin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:52 PM, kphiyr <kph...@kphiyr.com> wrote:
> > Shalom Haverim,
>
> > I'm unaware of the issues between Zvi and Yirme, and quite frankly it isn't my business. Since the exchange didn't happen publicly and over this board, it shouldn't be known over this forum.
>
> > I find no reason why Yirme, or Michal can not join this forum.
>
> > If Melech does or has done those two things that I've stipulated before - I would think he should be allowed to come back. My personal feelings towards Melech is irrelevant.
>
> > Kphiyr
>

[Kphiyr]

Shalom Ben,

I can agree with most of your points here. I'm not sure that humble
is the exact word I would use, but within that specific context that
you use it - it does seem to apply in most instances.

There are times that I'm positive that YHWH is using Zvi, and I
won't deny it. I'm not to sure if he is aware, which times those are.
Also I'd rather not get into talking about certain people in that kind
of context, as I believe it won't be of benefit to anyone. Regardless
if the individuals named would consider the words written as a
positive thing or not. Some things should rest, and not spoken
publicly or even in private. (I know you aren't implying we do this.)

I as well have great respect for you as well. There have been many
times even in disagreement that you have been nothing but respectful
with me. A part of me still misses our old email chats when we were
both moderators on a certain Jewish forum.

Although I still hold to my initial statements regarding Melech,
Yirme, and Michal - it doesn't mean so much to me that I'd feel heart
broken if this thread were to die out.

Would inviting any of those three to this forum cause some forum
fighting? I'd assume it would - Melech even more so than the other
two, but to me that shouldn't bar them from being here, so long as
they cease and make amends.

I'm not a friend of Melech, but I don't hate him. He has been
responsible with me at times, even though I know he is suspicious of
me. Michal can be rash at times, but I know she is also a sweetheart -
a good person if she lets you get to know her. Very little is known
about Yirme. Does anyone know if he is a KJU grad?

Be well my friend,
Kphiyr

On Apr 16, 11:09 pm, Bill Danielson <bill.daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Shalom Kphiyr
>
> Melech has created many difficulties for himself by design.  It seems
> as if Zvi also enjoys causing troubles but in a completely different
> kind of way.  I have a greater respect for Zvi than I do for Melech
> cause Zvi is clearly humble while Melech is not.  In my humble
> opinion, Zvi does not seem to require any recognition while Melech
> seems to require it at every turn.  I have learned much more than
> biblical law from Zvi, even if he can be the biggest pain this side of
> creation.  On the other hand, for me personally, Melech just rubs me
> the wrong way.  So says me.
>
> With the greatest respect,
> Benjamin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:53 PM, kphiyr <kph...@kphiyr.com> wrote:
> > Shalom Ben,
>
> > For what it's worth your opinion has always been of value to me my friend.
>
> > I don't think it is likely that Melech has tried to make amends with both parties and will turn from his ways - so all of this may be mute. I do however believe that he would be entitled to forgiveness if he turned and sought it. It bothers me as I do see some goodness in some of the things Melech has done for Qaraites.
>
> > Kphiyr
>

> > On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Bill Danielson <bill.daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On the contrary, I personally (my opinion counts very little) do not
> >> see any reason for Melech to be allowed into this forum - he has gone
> >> beyond the bounds of morality to say the least, in my humble opinion.
> >> After experiences I have had with Zvi (no offense Zvi), I do not see
> >> any reason why Yirme or Michal would not be welcomed here.  It is up
> >> to them and moderators whether they wish to join or not.  Be well,
> >> Kphiyr and Zvi...
>
> >> Benjamin
>
> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:52 PM, kphiyr <kph...@kphiyr.com> wrote:
> >>> Shalom Haverim,
>
> >>> I'm unaware of the issues between Zvi and Yirme, and quite frankly it isn't my business. Since the exchange didn't happen publicly and over this board, it shouldn't be known over this forum.
>
> >>> I find no reason why Yirme, or Michal can not join this forum.
>
> >>> If Melech does or has done those two things that I've stipulated before - I would think he should be allowed to come back. My personal feelings towards Melech is irrelevant.
>
> >>> Kphiyr
>

[Kphiyr]

It is hard to be so surprised, when you are to consider that my memory
is so short on this subject.

Kphiyr

[Zvi]

1. You "forgot" the opening greeting, so I'm giving you notice just so
you won't mistake my thoughts that my patience toward your double
standard about this has been exhausted. Probably I've been too patient
and nice with you about it.

2. The attitude you've shown me in this thread has hardly surprised
me,- I've grown used to it. And I'm even unsurprised that the short
memory you concede to can have adverse effects on you too in this
instance. But that's only your problem.

3. Most importantly, Yohanan seems not to suffer from the effects of
the short memory you've admitted to displaying concerning MBY and even
Michal. This is what truly matters to me in the context of whether or
not they'd be allowed to gain admittance into this group.

Zvi

[Zvi]

PS: by failing to write an opening greeting in the last 2 instances of
our exchanges despite your own complaints about the lack of same from
me, Kphiyr, plus your attitude toward me in this thread, you've
provided spectacular confirmations as to why I've steadily refused to
be your friend on FB let alone real life. It's really no mystery, but
you seem incapable of comprehending some basics in human exchange
which is rather strange.

Zvi

[Kphiyr]

Considering that I'm the half Jew among us - I'm a bit "surprised"
that Zvi isn't leaps ahead of me in the humor department.

Hopefully by morning I will have forgotten this entire episode that is
unless I need another good jovial jaw dropping. :)

Kphiyr

[Kphiyr]

Shalom Zvi the Humble,

Not to be rude, but it isn't of any consequence to me that we aren't
friends. I currently wish you no harm, but you're not the type of
person that I'd seek as a friend. I have reached out to you in the
past but I won't be rude enough to tell you why. I will compliment you
by stating you've had a charm about you that can be fun at times.
However it is in both of our interests that we aren't friends, but I'd
rather not get into that further. :)

Kphiyr

[Zvi]

Shalom Kphiyr the Holy,

I'm not foolish enough to fall for the implication you reached out to
me in times past because I was needy/week or something alone those
lines (except in your perception).

I don't wish you harm either seeing as your part of Bayt Yisra'el.
Wishing a non-Nokhri harm is likely to boomerang on us.

I'll spare you my other thoughts about your statements (save for the 2
last sentences).
:-))

Zvi

[kphiyr]

Shalom Zvi,

I've never reached out to you because you are weak or needy. Those thoughts have never crossed my mind. If you are slightly curious, it has more to do with the reason you've witnessed me reaching out to others among our people.

I'm not a holy or righteous person. I'm a man of simple of mind amidst the roaring waves of a volatile ocean.

It is by YHWH and YHWH only that I'm able to see another day. I know very well that I have not earned the blessings He has shined down upon me. I'm a small person in the eyes of an enormous and all encompassing living God.

Kphiyr

[Zvi]

Shalom Kphiyr, Binyamin & those interested,

Why did I forget to comment on Kphiyr's utterance "I would think
he should be allowed to come back."...

"Hakham" Melech already *controls* the original group, posting monthly
New Moon updates, and Davidi possibly tops this off by providing his
own occasional content, and who knows what else goes on there once in
a while.

So why would Kphiyr or anyone else believe MBY is missing out on
anything being posted here?
Meanwhile, TE boasts many more members and little has been happening
here so it is naive to believe this group is on par content-wise with
Melech's (without competing, of course) on a posting frequency basis.

Just sayin'.

Zvi

On Apr 17, 7:52 am, kphiyr <kph...@kphiyr.com> wrote:

> Shalom Haverim,
>
> I'm unaware of the issues between Zvi and Yirme, and quite frankly it isn't my business. Since the exchange didn't happen publicly and over this board, it shouldn't be known over this forum.
>
> I find no reason why Yirme, or Michal can not join this forum.
>
> If Melech does or has done those two things that I've stipulated before - I would think he should be allowed to come back. My personal feelings towards Melech is irrelevant.
>
> Kphiyr
>

[Yaaqov Ben Yisrael]

Though Melech and I have reconciled, I do not believe he would be welcome here, though I have no say in this, I am not the owner of PT. I have removed myself as owner of any group which I formed, and also as moderator of any group to which I belonged. This is for personal reasons, so as not to have my hands tied later.

 

On that note, I have been rather busy of late; I am newly married, and I am currently trying to build a home for her to come to. This requires me to work even more than is normal for me, which is 60-80 hrs weekly. I read all the posts, as they come to my cell, but I only am able to post when I have time to think and write rationally.

 

Olja, My Beloved Wife, is still in Munich, and we are going through immigrations now, and hopefully, we will be reunited within a few months.

 

Ya'aqov ben Yisrael

--

[kphiyr]

Shalom Haverim,

I mistyped that and apologize for any confusion. No Melech was not originally a member.

Kphiyr

[kphiyr]

Shalom Hakham Yaaqov,

I hope YHWH continues to be good to you, and the next few months move by faster than expected. Yah is indeed good to you in His giving of a beautiful wife in whom you find delight.

You do deserve that blessing. 

Kphiyr

[kphiyr]

Shalom Haverim,

I'm not advocating that Melech should be anyone's friend - that is between Melech and the other party. If Melech makes amends with Yohanan and admits to his part in the events in TE, and states he will not try to seize control of this forum, then he should be allowed here.

Kphiyr

[Zvi]

Shalom l'khulam,

I really don't give a crap about Kphiyr's opinion and I'm not the
least upset witnessing his continued babbling on this matter.
Even if MBY makes amends with Yohanan in particular and vows in YHWH's
Name not to pull any stunts and Yohanan believes his vow, I trust that
Yohanan won't let him gain a virtual foothold here if only because MBY
hasn't made amends with me.

Zvi

On Apr 18, 7:27 am, kphiyr <kph...@kphiyr.com> wrote:
> Shalom Haverim,
>

[Yohanan bin-Dawidh]

Gentlemen:

I am sorry that I have had little time to devote to this group, or any other group as of late, due to my job, and here are my thoughts on this topic:

As of this time, we not concern ourselves with Melekh being a member of this group. He, to my limited knowledge, has not desire to be a part of this group, or to associate with me. He feels he was in the right, and I lack insight and maturity, and acted unrighteously. This is his prerogative. 

Plus I am not going to remove Zvi for any reason that Melekh would wish for me to remove Zvi, so unless Melekh wants to go against his own rhetoric of having a peaceful environment for Qara'im, it would be best he not join this group, as to allow no harsh rhetoric between him and Zvi.

There is an old saying, "It takes two to Tango.....", and personally Melekh is no less guilty than his accusations toward Zvi. Actually anyone who ever accuses Zvi, and still holds discussion with him, or argues with him, is as guilty as the accusations of which they accuse him. Maturity means that if something offends you, or someone offends you, but you believe in "free speech", which I do, them you just ignore those who offend you, and do not escalate the argument.

I think all of us should take lessons from the book "Seven Habits of Highly Effective People" by Dr. Stephen Covey.

All praise be to YHWH!

Yohanan bin-Dawidh

--
שָׁלוֹם וּבְרָכָה
יוֹחָנָן בִּן-דָוִד

[kphiyr]

Shalom Yohanan and Haverim,

That was rather informative and wise. I assumed Melech has not changed his stance and that this whole thing was relatively mute concerning him. Michal and Yirme should be allowed to join. I assume you wouldn't bar them, although I hardly see Michal ever applying here, which is a loss for me personally, as I do miss reading her messages in the public arena.

This should go without saying, but I don't want Zvi banned from here. My personal dislike for him at times is irrelevant. He has a good side, but I'll try not to draw attention to it. After all he is part of our extended family. :-))

Kphiyr

[Zvi]

Shalom all,

I take it for granted that Kphiyr has a good side. I just regret he is
occasionally selective in acting upon it towards me whereas he *never*
acts upon his badder side toward others.
Well... at least I haven't taken this attitude like a sucker.

May YHWH be praised!
Zvi

On Apr 18, 5:22 pm, kphiyr <kph...@kphiyr.com> wrote:
> Shalom Yohanan and Haverim,
>
>      That was rather informative and wise. I assumed Melech has not changed his stance and that this whole thing was relatively mute concerning him. Michal and Yirme should be allowed to join. I assume you wouldn't bar them, although I hardly see Michal ever applying here, which is a loss for me personally, as I do miss reading her messages in the public arena.
>
>      This should go without saying, but I don't want Zvi banned from here. My personal dislike for him at times is irrelevant. He has a good side, but I'll try not to draw attention to it. After all he is part of our extended family. :-))
>
> Kphiyr
>

[Zvi]

Shalom Yohanan.

I saw from the start that Kphiyr brought up this matter with Melech
only to spite me as an expression of his dismay at seeing me
ridiculing Yirme. This way he could avoid attacking me directly for
it.
Kphiyr had seen Binyamin do this on a very attenuated level and
figured this would be the perfect way to push my button.

If Kphiyr decides later this year to connect with MBY on FB, so be it.
I've seen Kphiyr do stranger things :-)

May YHWH protect you!
Zvi

On Apr 18, 4:46 pm, Yohanan bin-Dawidh <yohanan.bin.daw...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[Bill Danielson]

Shalom all

Just wanted you all to know I was still around. The entire ordeal
with Melech is meaningless. It does not appear to me as if he has any
interest in being in this group.

Benjamin

2012/4/18 Zvi <zvi.tor...@gmail.com>:

--
Bill Danielson
http://webpages.charter.net/danielsonw

[Kphiyr]

Shalom Benjamin,

My guess is Melech would rather have everyone back on TE again, except
for obviously Zvi, and maybe me as well. Also if Yohanan and Melech
were to ever mend and become friends again, I'm sure Melech would want
to join here. Yohanan is a likeable person, and I would highly doubt
that Melech doesn't want to mend with Yohanan. It is probabbly
Melech's stiffneckedness that stops himself from trying. I've found
myself at times being to stubborn to do what I really want. Such are
the ways of man.

Obviously this is all conjecture.

Kphiyr

On Apr 18, 1:10 pm, Bill Danielson <bill.daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Shalom all
>
> Just wanted you all to know I was still around.  The entire ordeal
> with Melech is meaningless.  It does not appear to me as if he has any
> interest in being in this group.
>
> Benjamin
>

> 2012/4/18 Zvi <zvi.torahkee...@gmail.com>:

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[Kphiyr]

Shalom Zvi,

I'll admit, I've done much stranger things, and I won't pretend to
know what my future decisions will be. I've been known to even forgive
my enemy. Not to say that Melech is my enemy. We just move in opposite
directions.

All praise be to He who sees me!

Kphiyr

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