R&D Suggestion - Stop Hurting My Head
Grov-R-LER-1
On Jun 14, 5:53 am, 0x44 <ign...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In accordance with mission of the Housing Preservation and Development
> and Mind Control, Proposal Maintenance Service Firm, we are publishing
> the following regulation:
>
> ### BEGIN REGULATION ###
> Regulation 3C54-1681:
>
> In order to dissuade unlicensed proposals, and to better educate Alpha
> Complex Citizens (excluding all inhabitants of Alpha Complex with
> Infrared Clearance, non-Infrared Cleared citizens with criminal records,
> mutants, and Communists, excepting those members of Internal Security
> who have been vetted in accordance with Internal Security Internal
> Regulation ISHP3-123d/Q and duly authorized to engage in
> counter-Communist espionage, and any bots) regarding the proper
> submission of all proposals, request for comment, regulation
> publications, and other modifications to the duly constituted rules and
> ordinances, only proposals on official Housing Preservation and
> Development and Mind Control Form 3C/Q Proposal Submission Form will be
> accepted as valid. Any documents purporting to be proposals, submitted
> to the Housing Preservation and Development and Mind Control Proposal
> Management Service Firm on any other form, sheet, or document will be
> discarded. Failure to comply with Housing Preservation and Development
> and Mind Control Regulation 3C54-1681, will result in termination
> pending declaration of treason of the Citizen in question, except
> insofar as the Computer should show leniency in light of past service to
> Alpha Complex.
>
> The Official Housing Preservation and Development and Mind Control Form
> 3C/Q Proposal Submission Form can be obtained after submitting an
> official Production, Logistics and Commissary Form 9A-1 Form Request
> Form to your nearest Production, Logistics and Commissary Officer. Upon
> receipt of a properly filed Production, Logistics and Commissary Form
> 9A-1 Form Request Form, you will receive an official Housing
> Preservation and Development and Mind Control Form 3C/Q Proposal
> Submission Form within 3 daycycles. This form must be filled out and
> submitted within 2 daycycles of receipt and is only valid for a single
> proposal submission. Each official Housing Preservation and Development
> and Mind Control Form 3C/Q Proposal Submission Form will have a unique
> identifier which will be cross-referenced against the Housing
> Preservation and Development and Mind Control Form 3C/Q Proposal
> Submission Form database, and further against the Production, Logistics
> and Commissary Form 9A-1 Form Request Form database, should that Service
> Group choose to develop one.
>
> Except where specifically prohibited in Housing Preservation and
> Development and Mind Control Regulation 3C54-1681 paragraph 2, members
> of any Housing Preservation and Development and Mind Control Service
> Firm may submit an internal Housing Preservation and Development and
> Mind Control Form 3C/Q Proposal Submission Form Request Form to receive
> an official Housing Preservation and Development and Mind Control Form
> 3C/Q Proposal Submission Form.
>
> ### END REGULATION ###
This is all very Alpha Complex, but it hurts my head. R&D recommends
measures be taken to prevent rogue regulations, as powers such as this
may confer (ie: the power to dismiss any proposal out of hand on a
whim) to citizen 0x44 should be granted only by the rules as voted
upon by citizens or by The Computer.
Ed Murphy
> This is all very Alpha Complex, but it hurts my head. R&D recommends
> measures be taken to prevent rogue regulations, as powers such as this
> may confer (ie: the power to dismiss any proposal out of hand on a
> whim) to citizen 0x44 should be granted only by the rules as voted
> upon by citizens or by The Computer.
Agreed. None of these restrictions are rule-supported until/unless
voted in. Please issue proposal batch #11 promptly, Citizen 0x44.
0x44
> This is all very Alpha Complex, but it hurts my head. R&D recommends
> measures be taken to prevent rogue regulations, as powers such as this
> may confer (ie: the power to dismiss any proposal out of hand on a
> whim) to citizen 0x44 should be granted only by the rules as voted
> upon by citizens or by The Computer.
hand on a whim. It merely states on what grounds the Proposal
Maintenance service firm will accept a proposal. The fact that the
Production, Logistics, and Commissary Service Group has not released any
Form Request Forms cannot be a fault of this citizen, or the Proposal
Maintenance service firm.
0x44
> Agreed. None of these restrictions are rule-supported until/unless
> voted in. Please issue proposal batch #11 promptly, Citizen 0x44.
>
3C54-1681. It merely outlines the proper procedure for submitting
proposals through the service firm.
Buddha Buck
CItizen, I wish to point out that the Computer is often in the habit
of handing out responsibilities, but not in the habit of handing out
authority. That is well within the Computer's prerogative, and there
is nothing wrong with that.
In this case, Rule 2-1-1/0 says "Each citizen can submit proposals. "
Your Service Firm Mission says " Publish batches of no less than two
proposals apiece, preferably from no less than two authors apiece,
specifying their clearances;". There are other clauses not germane to
this discussion relating to when voting periods start and your duties
to update certain documents.
What I do not see in either the rules or your mission is any mention
of HPDMC Regulation 3C54-1681, nor do I see any regulation-making
authority assigned to you. Surely regulation-making authority would
not be delegated to mere Red-Clearance Citizens like ourselves. My
message archives do not contain any messages from any appropriately
authorized superior in the Housing Preservation and Development and
Mind Control Service Group promulgating HPDMC Regulation 3C54-1681.
Computer, I beg your judgement on the truth of the following two statements:
1) Citizens are required to submit proposals on an official Housing
Preservation and Development and Mind Control Form 3C/Q Proposal
Submission Form in order to be considered valid.
2) Citizen 0x44 is authorized to promulgate and enforce the previously
cited HPDMC Regulation 3C54-1681.
Ed Murphy
> Computer, I beg your judgement on the truth of the following two statements:
>
> 1) Citizens are required to submit proposals on an official Housing
> Preservation and Development and Mind Control Form 3C/Q Proposal
> Submission Form in order to be considered valid.
>
> 2) Citizen 0x44 is authorized to promulgate and enforce the previously
> cited HPDMC Regulation 3C54-1681.
Both true. However, the specific content of said regulation
(including but not limited to the specific content of said form
and the prerequisites for obtaining same) are null until/unless
explicitly legislated, Citizen 0x44's enthusiastic allegations
to the contrary notwithstanding.
0x44
> Blaise Pascal wrote:
>
> Both true. However, the specific content of said regulation
> (including but not limited to the specific content of said form
> and the prerequisites for obtaining same) are null until/unless
> explicitly legislated, Citizen 0x44's enthusiastic allegations
> to the contrary notwithstanding.
>
Proposals have to be submitted on a null form?
Ed Murphy
> Proposals have to be submitted on a null form?
And they have been. Hurry up with your cheerful service, Citizen!
0x44
> And they have been. Hurry up with your cheerful service, Citizen!
>
0x44
> And they have been. Hurry up with your cheerful service, Citizen!
>
Ed Murphy
The forms are simply transparent plastic sheets. (But what security
clearance is transparent plastic? Simple doesn't always mean easy...)
0x44
> The forms are simply transparent plastic sheets. (But what security
> clearance is transparent plastic? Simple doesn't always mean easy...)
>
Ultraviolet Clearance materiel?
Ed Murphy
I am saying nothing of the sort.
Benjamin Schultz
I cannot determine whether the Proposals have been submitted on
materiel classified as Ultraviolet or as Infrared -- they both appear
identical to me.
Louve-R
--
Ben Schultz
0x44
> I cannot determine whether the Proposals have been submitted on
> materiel classified as Ultraviolet or as Infrared -- they both appear
> identical to me.
>
Benjamin Schultz
Yes, but what is the classification of a transparent medium?
For that matter, when an office has a window onto a corridor, assuming
that the office and corridor are at the same classification, what is
the classification of the window itself?
Louve-R
--
Ben Schultz
0x44
them tonight.