Response Email - Attn: Mukesh Agarwal (MD) : Common concerns raised by Floraville flat buyers, Meeting on 11th @ 11:00 am at Sec-63 Office

[Amit Kumar]

Dear Mr Mukesh Agarwal,

Thanks for your time and providing response to our queries. Pls find the MoM below-

Date: October 11, 2014

Time: 1140 hours to 1300 hours.

Agenda of the meeting: Common concerns raised by Floraville flat buyers in Floraville project, as per annexure ‘A’ attached herewith.

Venue: Head Office of Paramount Towers Private Limited / Paramount Group of Companies. Second Floor Conference Hall, H-123, Sector-63, Noida.

Present in the meeting: 

1. Mr. Mukesh Aggarwal, Managing Director of Paramount.
2. Mr. Ashwani Prakash, one of the Director of Paramount.
3. Mrs. Shikha Sharma, Head of Back Office Operations, Paramount Floraville.
4. Other members of Paramount Group of Companies.
5. Around 40+ allottees of Paramount Floraville project.

Discussed & concluded:

1. All the allottees will get penalty for late handover of possession, if he/she is not a willful defaulter (for e.g. not made a payment for 4-6 months) in payment to the builder.
   
2. The penalty from the builder will be adjusted in the offer of possession, in the final amount payable to the builder at the time of possession.
   
3. All charges payable to government authorities/agencies as mentioned in the offer of possession will be supported by government documents.
   
4. The offer of possession will be once the builder gets occupancy certificate, which is expected in 15-20 days time.
   
5. The maintenance charge may be taken in advance for six months, rest in PDC.
   
6. The allottees in Floraville project will choose 5-7 representatives to discuss their common matters with the builder.
   
7. The Managing Director of Paramount, Mr. Mukesh Aggarwal agrees to show copies of application for Completion Certificate and Occupancy Certificate to the representatives of allottees in Floraville project.
   
8. The Managing Director of Paramount, Mr. Mukesh Aggarwal also agreed, communication with floraville flat owner are not transparent (for e.g. charges\clauses discussed by staff with allottees are not correct) at the moment. He will try to rectify this in a month time and will try to provide continuous update to Flat buyer.   
   

If you feel any of the above point are not understood correctly then pls respond back to Floraville Flat buyers email and clarify. We believe it will be a great start of transparent communication.  

Note: ** 361 Flat buyers are included in bcc**

Recorded and archived on October 11, 2014.

Regards

Floraville Flat Buyers

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:34 PM, wrote:

Dear Mr Mukesh Agarwal

In continuation of our last meeting with you at the Floraville site on 7^th Sept 2014, in which we were assured by you that the Offer of Possession for the front 5 towers viz, I,J,K,L,M, would be started in 15 days time, we are constrained to mail this letter as we did not see it happening.

In the meantime certain flat buyers have received calls from your company for one-on-one discussions and have been asked to sign a Consent form. Also they have been intimated about certain financial demands to be raised in the Offer of Possession.

We would therefore like to meet your kind self along with your Sr. Management, Legal cell, Architect etc on the 11^th Oct 2014 at 11.00 a.m, at your office to address our concerns and put our doubts to rest regarding the following issues:

We are mailing you our queries so that your office is well prepared with the supporting documents and satisfactory answers, well in advance as we do not wish to waste either your or our valuable time!. 

Note: ** 360 Flat buyers are also included in bcc**

Common concerns raised by members of this forum are as follows: <Same is attached in the email.>

1.      Date of Actual/ Physical Possession of the Flat.
2.      Justification for Amount Charged for IGL installation. (Actual is 6k whereas demand from Paramount is 9k).
3.      Justification of Water meter charges: 10000/- cheque in favour of Paramount and receipt for same to be provided to Individual flat owner? Is there any provision for Ganga Water supply?
4.      Main Load of 5 KVA – for all flats irrespective of size? What will be the rate of Back up charges per unit?
5.      Justification of Rs 54/- p.s.f as WDC.
6.      Justification of Amount Charged against Maintenance (INR 2.25 + ST) whereas another society at par level is charging only (1.50 + ST).

Need to see the Maintenance plan, as mentioned in their lease deed with NOIDA. How has Paramount arrived at this figure?

·                  Provide details on what is included in Maintenance

·                  Which of the facilities as mentioned in the brochure will be available with exact dates?.

Why 2 yrs advance (while BBA suggests that only monthly maintenance would be charged) When IFMS is being taken in advance, why another financial burden of Maintenance charges in advance?

Omaxe builder in Greater Noida is not charging anything for maintenance for first year. He is using IFMS for this. Even after one year he will charge Rs.1.85 psf. 

Maintenance will be charged from April 2015, provided Paramount gets OC and if not OC is received until April 2015, what happens then?

7.      No holding charges to be levied: If we pay and don';t take  physical possession until OC is received, there should not be any holding charges, as Maintenance and House tax are applicable only from the date of issue of OC.
8.      Why Lease payment/ (Stamp Paper): 3,03000+12000+service tax has to be paid also before we get NO DUES certificate? We will buy the e-stamp paper just one week before the date of Registration as intimated to us by Paramount Management, as e-stamp paper has an expiry date. 

When demand is raised with offer of possession, the above mentioned cost should not be included!! If registry is be delayed due to Completion certificate then who will bear extra cost if circle rates are increased in future?

9.      Share Details/ Copies regarding different applications filed at different agencies for completion & other necessary approvals!

i) Whether Paramount has applied for CC and when,,, we need to see the copy of the Application form / receipts from NOIDA.

ii) Whether the land title is clear and if so the receipt for the same

iii) Whether Paramount has paid Lease rent till date; if so receipts for the same.

iv)TRUE DISCOSURE FORM to be shared with every flat buyer

 Photocopies of all the above to be sent with Offer of Possession!!

10.  Any other extra/ hidden charges at the time of Possession to be validated and justified by the Paramount Management!! .
11.  Penalty due till date of Offer of Possession, to be adjusted, in the final offer letter.
12.  What will be the date of conveyance deed from Builder to RWA?

13. Entire IFMS amount is transferrable to the RWA at the time of handover.

 Regards

Floraville Flat Buyers

[Manish - Iris]

HI Amit, Any update after the 13th Oct Meeting?

[Trevor Jolliffe]

Dear All,

Are they updates in the last 5months. As the group has written to the Management of Floraville on valid points - I did not see any response on those listed points.

Further what are the details of the penalty clause - I paid up my 100% in Nov'11.

Could any one from the group please update this page.

Thank you 

Trevor

[Munesh Gupta]

Dear Mr. Amit,

Now as paramount has started giving / offering possession, still they are not settelling the penalty in the demand letter itself and asking for the proofs for timley payments. Did you have any update on this.

Regards

Munesh Gupta

[Ram Tiwari]

Boss for delay in payment they are charging interest and for delay in possession they  should give penalty also as per clause 

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[Gagan Kohli]

Dear All,
What is the latest update on Paramount Floraville.
I have paid all money and got offer of possession with interest charged despite having paid all money in time.

When i went to their office in April they said we shall have to pay interest.
I did not pay interest but paid other charges.
NO one is talking on compensation for delay.

Pl update if any development is there.

Regards
Gagan Kohli

On Monday, 13 October 2014 13:18:38 UTC+1, Amit Kumar wrote:

[Dr.Tariq Ashraf]

The sGOR is again playing into the hands of Paramount on payment of  penalty WRT late possession.

What does "Willful Defaulter " means when one has paid  complete interest  as penalty even if it is 4-5 months. How this "Willfulness" will be established.  If  one has paid 18 percent interest  as per agreement, he must receive penalty from builder as per agreement. Both are separate issues and can not be linked. The GOR must not accept it as it is  arbitrary and contrary to agreement and principal  of natural justice.

Regards

Dr.Tariq

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[Dr.Tariq Ashraf]

The sGOR is again playing into the hands of Paramount on payment of  penalty WRT late possession.

What does "Willful Defaulter " means when one has paid  complete interest  as penalty even if it is 4-5 months. How this "Willfulness" will be established.  If  one has paid 18 percent interest  as per agreement, he must receive penalty from builder as per agreement. Both are separate issues and can not be linked. The GOR must not accept it as it is  arbitrary and contrary to agreement and principal  of natural justice.

Regards

Dr.Tariq

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[Manjeet Solanki]

Same the case with me ..all payment done 3 months ago but no change in flat status. .. No delay possesses penalty from builder.  Thanks, Manjeet K-1204 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:"Dr.Tariq Ashraf" <tar...@gmail.com> Date:Tue, 7 Jul, 2015 at 10:01 am Subject:Re: [paramount-floraville-residents:1078] Re: Response Email - Attn: Mukesh Agarwal (MD) : Common concerns raised by Floraville flat buyers, Meeting on 11th @ 11:00 am at Sec-63 Office

[S K Gupta]

Builder is much inteligent. Making all of us fool. Because we are not united and do not want to take even small pain for filing case. We will won for sure if we just file case.

Thanks
Saurabh Gupta
+91 997 1311 997

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[Anand Singh]

Has anyone checked if registry of this society is open?

Cheers!

Anand

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[Gagan Kohli]

I agree that we need to take a united stand.
Let's share views and take a united stand.

[Gagan Kohli]

Yes I am informed that registry has started.

[S K Gupta]

Last 3 months we are getting only news registry started. But actually nothing
I am sure builder do not have intension to do so.

Thanks
Saurabh Gupta
+91 997 1311 997

[Gagan Kohli]

I just spoke to Paramount officials last week n they said if I clear my dues they will give me lawyers number for registry.
Earlier they had confided that registry has not begun.

What is development on interest n compensation. Does anyone has any update.

Gagan

[Sumesh Grover]

The registration has already begun.
One of my friend has already done it.

[S K Gupta]

Hi Sumesh
Congrates to your friend
Please let us know did his flat is completed before or not yet.

Thanks
Saurabh Gupta
+91 997 1311 997

[Sumesh Grover]

He is getting the wooden work done.
Since he was not a defaulter in payment so he has been given the delayed penalty also by the builder

Regards
Sumesh

[Ratnesh Srivastava]

Hi sumesh

May we know name and flat no of your friend. Is he not in group?

Ratnesh

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08980802343

 

[Gagan Kohli]

Dear All
I had visited the site in April.My flat is jasmine 1604.
The flat was yet to be completed.
Windows n doors were to fixed. Taps n seats were not yet fixed.
So finishing was yer to be done.
When I asked staff at Paramount office they said it shall be completed once I complete payment n obtain no dues.

I have paid all money except interest they are asking.

So I believe they are doing finishing based on obtaining no dues.

Regards
Gagan kohli

[Sumesh Grover]

His flat is Daisy 1004

[Nandini Srivastava]

Sumesh, when did he get the registry done?
I was informed by Mudassir yesterday, that registry is starting today!!!

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Dear All
I had visited the site in April.My flat is jasmine 1604.
The flat was yet to be completed.
Windows n doors were to fixed. Taps n seats were not yet fixed.
So finishing was yer to be done.
When I asked staff at Paramount office they said it shall be completed once I complete payment n obtain no dues.

I have paid all money except interest they are asking.

So I believe they are doing finishing based on obtaining no dues.

Regards
Gagan kohli

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[Vipin Jain]

Did anyone filed case against builder?

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[Manjeet Solanki]

Yes ,some filed case. Some more are planning to file. Manjeet

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[Vipin Jain]

Let me know who all are planning to file, I am interested to join.

Regards

Vipin Jain 

Pine 1101

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[varun sharma]

Ditto herr, I am interested too!

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Gp Capt Varun Sharma
9968420555

[bansa...@gmail.com]

Me too.

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Atul Bansal
9818680728

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[Gaurav Dimri]

Count me as well for the litigation. However, I would recommend that we take possession of our flats before we file the case. 

[Nikhil Goel]

Count me in as well

[S K Gupta]

Hi All

I am also interested, please form a group on Whatsapp and start initial discussions.

Thanks

Saurabh - 997 1311 997

Thanks
Saurabh Gupta
+91-997-1311-997

[Praveen Sharma]

I am also interested to pursue. Pls add me also.

Praveen Sharma
9810106072

[Rati Khetan]

Please include me as well.

Thanks,

Rati

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[Indranil Das]

Please include me as well
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[abu torab]

Please include me as well.

Thanks,

Abu Torab

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[Dheeraj Chakarvarty]

Please include me as well.

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Regards
Dheeraj

[anubhav sharma]

Hi

Please include me as well

Anubhav Sharma
9599904977
Pine 604

[Sipra Das]

Guys, do you have any update whether the points mentioned in the MOM are taken care of by the builder .. because I received offer of possession without any penalty from builder for late handover of possession. Can we arrange any meeting asap if possible to discuss this issue.

[Rakesh Mishra]

Hi All

I am rakesh mishra. One of thw buyer in Floraville. Have paid full amt. But still there is no call for registration.
Pls add me me in grouo. 7621018081

[Vipin Jain]

You need to call them, they will never call you.

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[shahbaz rasheed]

Please include me as well - Nettle 802.

Regards,

Shahbaz 

+1-805-501-0540.

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[Manuj Ohri]

please include me

manuj

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[Avinash Panwar]

Please include me also
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[Toposmito Sengupta]

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[Alok Misra]

Dear all Please include me +918826726076

Thanks

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[Avinash Panwar]

Hi All,

Anybody intrested to sell his flat. Area required 1680 sqft, Xpressway facing below 10th floor.

Please call me on 8742904499.

Regards,
Avinash pawar
G-003

[ankur jain]

Hello Everyone,

I have purchased Nettle 1701. Please add me in group. My contact no is 9873877976.

Regards,

Ankur Jain

[Dinesh Kumar]

[Dinesh Kumar]

I AM ALSO REQUIRED JOIN THIS GROP

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