Paper Topic For Next Month

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Jamison Dance

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Aug 28, 2012, 7:43:27 PM8/28/12
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Hello friends. We had a fun time talking about Arguments and Results.
Dan schooled me in some software engineering philosophy.

We should start thinking of papers to read next. I have come across
two recently that are interesting.

The first is Out of The Tarpit:
http://shaffner.us/cs/papers/tarpit.pdf. It is another software
engineering one that Rick Hickey (Clojure smart guy) talked about at a
recent talk. It is focused on removing complexity from simple things.
I haven't read it yet, but it looks interesting.

The second one is A Maximum Entropy Approach To Natural Language
Processing (http://acl.ldc.upenn.edu/J/J96/J96-1002.pdf). It gets in
to some math and probability stuff, but it is still pretty readable.
If you want to learn about probability, stats, and NLP, this would be
a good one to start out with. It also has about 2500 citations on
Google Scholar, so it is a really influential one in the field. I am
about half-way through it and am really enjoying it.

Any other suggestions?

Dan Dorman

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Aug 29, 2012, 12:12:39 PM8/29/12
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Either sounds good, and ideally, I'd like to read both. Since we read
an engineering one last month, my vote is for the NLP, and Tarpit next
month. How does that sound?
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Bret Little

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Aug 29, 2012, 12:36:06 PM8/29/12
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Either would be good for me as well. I'm disappointed I missed this last conversation, I'll have to make sure to make it to the next. This might be a bit more basic and maybe you guys have already read it, but how about the original Representational State Transfer (REST) paper in Roy Thomas Fielding's doctoral dissertation. I haven't read it and it isn't that long.
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Bret Little

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Aug 29, 2012, 12:36:24 PM8/29/12
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Dan Dorman

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Aug 29, 2012, 1:14:17 PM8/29/12
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On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Bret Little <bret....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Either would be good for me as well. I'm disappointed I missed this last
> conversation, I'll have to make sure to make it to the next. This might be a
> bit more basic and maybe you guys have already read it, but how about the
> original Representational State Transfer (REST) paper in Roy Thomas
> Fielding's doctoral dissertation. I haven't read it and it isn't that long.

Oooh, I'd love to read that. Can—can I change my vote?

Dominic Tarr

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Aug 29, 2012, 2:01:34 PM8/29/12
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another one worth reading is the amazon dynamo paper, it's very clearly written,
and covers a variety of aspects of a reliable, eventually consistent,
distributed system.

Dan Dorman

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Aug 29, 2012, 2:37:40 PM8/29/12
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On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Dominic Tarr <domini...@gmail.com> wrote:
> another one worth reading is the amazon dynamo paper, it's very clearly written,
> and covers a variety of aspects of a reliable, eventually consistent,
> distributed system.

ZOMG so many good papers!

We need to start making a list. A queue, if you will.

Dan

Jamison Dance

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Aug 29, 2012, 2:44:29 PM8/29/12
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We could do them more often as well.

I am not super interested in the REST paper, but if Dan and Brett are
then it is winning the vote right now.

Bret Little

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Aug 29, 2012, 2:48:35 PM8/29/12
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In the end, all of them would be interesting and fun to discuss. It would be nice to keep a google doc or something to keep track of different ideas though.

Bret Little

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Aug 29, 2012, 2:50:45 PM8/29/12
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Do any of you guys use trello?

Dan Dorman

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Aug 29, 2012, 2:52:15 PM8/29/12
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On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Bret Little <bret....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do any of you guys use trello?

I looove Trello.

Jamison Dance

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Aug 29, 2012, 2:53:57 PM8/29/12
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I use it too. That is a good idea. Want to set up a board for us Brett?

Bret Little

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Aug 29, 2012, 3:00:53 PM8/29/12
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sure

Jamison Dance

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Aug 29, 2012, 3:01:47 PM8/29/12
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The further I get in to the NLP paper, the more intense it gets.
Probably not the best thing for this group.

Dan Dorman

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Aug 29, 2012, 4:20:21 PM8/29/12
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On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Jamison Dance <jerg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The further I get in to the NLP paper, the more intense it gets.
> Probably not the best thing for this group.

... yet.

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