Spyder Elite Software
Giorgina Makara
Is the instrument itself the same in all versions? Only the software changes? The Spyder3 express is the same as the Spyder 3 Pro, Elite or Studio?
If so, I could use all of them with the SpectraViewII software for their built-in wide gamut correction filter, any of the three should work for that purpose, right?!
I need a colorimeter with correction filter for wide gamut monitor to work with SpectraViewII. There are only three I heard of. The NEC i1d2 custom mated, the spyder3, and the dtp94 in Eizo's and Quato's bundle of matched screen & colorimeter.
What about the Express version? Is it also only the software that changes? It would be the cheapest way to get a colorimeter, and a colorimeter that has internal correction filters for wide gamut monitors. I could than use it with my SpectraView II software to do the hardware calibration of my PA241.
When you buy a NEC monitor, and the special bundle kit, its a eye1 d2 that come with monitor... if you have a NEC + spectraview.. why fight the idea? just get a eye1 d2 then.. i dont get the concept of someone buying a high end monitor and want to be cheap on a colorimeter.. maybe its just me...
The regular i1d2 has NO correction filters.
The NEC custom mated i1d2 does have them.
Spyder3 is also supposed to be corrected for wide gamut monitors.
I did not buy the SpectraViewII bundle, only the software. So now I have the P241 and SpectraViewII but no instrument that does the corrections. SpectraViewII does not apply any such filters. (I found a very interesting explanation about all this going on now @LL -landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=44400 )
The spyder3 express is, if it works, the cheapest instrument that I could get with correction.
Therefor I would like to now two things
- Is the instrument itself, I don't need the software, is it the same in all spyder versions, the express, pro, elite and studio?
- And why do some people, that know what they talk about, advice not to use a spyder3?
The regular i1d2 has NO correction filters.
The NEC custom mated i1d2 does have them.
Spyder3 is also supposed to be corrected for wide gamut monitors.
I did not buy the SpectraViewII bundle, only the software. So now I have the P241 and SpectraViewII but no instrument that does the corrections. SpectraViewII does not apply any such filters. (I found a very interesting explanation about all this going on now @LL -landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=44400 )
The spyder3 express is, if it works, the cheapest instrument that I could get with correction.
Therefor I would like to now two things
- Is the instrument itself, I don't need the software, is it the same in all spyder versions, the express, pro, elite and studio?
- And why do some people, that know what they talk about, advice not to use a spyder3?
Brian, you mean the colorimeter not the Spectraview dont you? Because the reason you want the Spectraview software with a NEC monitor its because it is the only way to calibrate the monitor itself and not the video card, getting a better transition across the monitor. Also the Spectraview software remove all human error out of the equation, since you simply have to tell what you want, it will do it for you.. no fuzz with any button, no fuzz with bizarre menu or RGB gun correction..
I run Affinity 1:10:4 on a Mac 10:13:6. I want to calibrate my monitor and printer with Datacolor Spyder tools (Compatible with Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop). Is this supported in Affinity (especially the soft-proof function, which compares and shows you a accurate preview of what the print will look like next to how it looks on the monitor.)
Those create ICC-profiles which you reuse on your MacOS system wide. Meaning here, if you create a monitor profile with the Datacolor Spyder X, the cretaed ICC profile will be installed onto your MacOS system and reused from there in Affinity. - Similar that SpyderPrinter software will create printer based ICC-profiles, which you can assign/reuse inside Affinity then.
So you would use the "Datacolor Spyder X elite" and "SpyderPrinter software" on it's own, meaning in turn here, that there is no integration of the Spyder software directly into Affinity as plugins or the like. Instead you reuse the ICC profiles created by those tools in the Affinity software then!
It makes no sense to calibrate the monitor and use the created ICC profile by affinity software. It does not replace the need for a proper calibration via a color checker which changes with each lightning condition. Calibrating your monitors will only ensure you to visualize your colors on your digital screen as close as possible to reality. That's it. We need in Affinity Photo the possibility to create ICC with a color checker.
I have an old Spyder4 Pro puck and software installed on Windows 10, with the color profile loaded, and I noticed on both of my notebooks since the last fall Windows 10 update that the color profile keeps loading and unloading itself every 30 sec to 1 minute. I contacted Datacolor support and someone said this has to do with Windows 10 USB, bluetooth, and power management constantly resetting the LUT table in the video card.
I understand there is a problem with Windows 10 update to version 1809. Some people have lost data after the update. I delayed auto update for 35 days to allow Microsoft to resolve the problem. You are the first I have seen with monitor calibration update issues after the update. I suggest you inform Microsoft of the issue so they and resolve it.
I don't exactly understand your problem. ".....the color profile keeps loading and unloading itself every 30 sec to 1 minute." Loads where? I have had a Spyder 4 Pro setup for 5 years and periodically I recalibrate and save a new display profile in the Windows (currently 10 and before that 7) system Color folder as an ICC file. Once it has been designated as the System default, that has never changed until the next recalibration. Nor did last week's update cause any change (and I did not lose any files of any sort).
"...this has to do with Windows 10 USB, bluetooth, and power management constantly resetting the LUT table in the video card." This part I really don't understand. Once the ICC file has been saved to disc, why would those three functions affect its utilization?
My display is by default slightly more red and warmer, while the color profile generated by Spyder4 is more green and cooler. Every minute or so the display will switch between either warmer and red, or slightly cooler and more green, hence the color profile being loaded and unloaded.
The interaction with USB, bluetooth, and power management is something which Datacolor support wrote to me, it's not something that I concluded or understand myself. You would have to ask them for more details about it. I assume that this unloads the color profile and turns my display warmer and more red. Then since the Spyder software is set to check if the color profile is loaded every 60 seconds, I guess it reloads the color profile again and turns my display cooler and more green. That's why I see a change in color on my display every minute or so, back and forth between the two types of colors.
Not sure if this will provide more meaningful information, but I just noticed something strange. I opened my Spyder5Pro software (without connecting the puck). Used the shortcuts in the bottom left to go to SpyderProof (where you can switch back and forth between calibrated/uncalibrated to see the impact on sample images). So far so good.
It begins in the calibrated view. Click the "switch" button to view uncalibrated . . . the whole screen gets warmer, as described above, including the white space on this browser window that I have open behind the Spyder5Pro software . . . but when I click "switch" again, it does NOT revert back to the cooler blue. Software claims that I'm looking at the calibrated view again, but in truth it has not reloaded, and will not do so no matter how many times I click "switch." But when I close the software, it then loads the LUT and the screen looks cool again.
I am having the exact same problem since a few days ago. When I connect a drive to the usb, the calibrated profile gets unloaded. It started that way and now it's worse because When I disconnect the drive or select "load calibration" from the spyder utility icon it only loads the profile in one or two of my 3 monitors. One gets stuck with the uncalibrated profile.
I have just encounted this issue. Spyder-X Pro. Created calibration. But after a mibnute it switches to pre calibrated "look" but the profile is still selected. And every now and then it will switch back and forth. I'm not seeing a pattern. Changed lighting conditions etc thinking it might be some "smart" windows settings trying to adjust things but making a mess of it as usual. The computer is only a couple of week sold and all the drivers etc are uptodate and correct. The calibration software is up to date and the OS is up to date. It's a shame since the displays default is a bit green tinted.
The calibration tables are loaded into the video card, as a quick and simple way to adjust the display. This is usually stored inside the profile for convenience, but is not part of the profile as such and serves a different purpose.
The profile is a description of the display in its calibrated state. It's a standard icc profile, just like any other icc profile. It's used by color managed applications in a standard profile conversion from from source to display. Lightroom loads the profile at application startup.
So the profile is not the issue here. The calibration might be, but again, this isn't something that needs to be loaded repeatedly. I've never, ever, heard of anything like this before (my own monitors are hardware calibrated and do not use the video card for this).
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