De-selected Images

[mikstan43]

I have had a number of images removed(De-selected) from GE which now show as "Not selected for Google Earth"

 

I would suggest that the team should have the courtesy to tell us that these particular images are de-selected .

 

I am not suggesting personal messages or emails to tell users that images which once were, are no longer accepted, just the message at the bottom of the image to read "de-selected " as opposed to "not selected"

 

Or perhaps like many other things here we, the users, just have to accept whatever the reviewers decide .

 

 

[Draken]

According to the Photo Acceptance Policy, were those photos wrongly or rightly de-selected?

What do you exactly mean by your final statement? I wonder.

[motorhand]

Can you show us the number of a "de-selected" picture please ?

I have never heard about that.

Perhaps it is a rejected picture after second review ?

[edit]
Here is one (by another user): http://www.panoramio.com/photo/78879538
It ist marked as "not selected after a second review".
But there is no hint that is was selected before.

[papkassen]

Nothing new about that, it has happened before, I have one here with 643 views on GE, 15060749

[mikstan43]

Hi Motorhand,

 

Firstly, let me say that the intent of my original post was to request a degree of courtesy from whoever it is that decides that an accepted image with 100's of GE views  is no longer accepted for GE.  Whoever that might be, presumably, has the facility to accept,,reject or delete an image. It would appear that there is now a fourth option viz : An image which has been selected can now be deselected.

When an image is selected a message appears below it "Selected for Google Earth"

When an image is not selected the message is -:" Not selected for Google earth .Ask for a second review"

When an image is not selected after the second review we are informed -: "Not selected for Google Earth after a second review"

Why can we not have the message " We have deselected this image" - I am not looking for a reason, that would be too much to expect.

 

Images which were accepted appear on the first page of my gallery.( I know they were on GE because they have GE views , I have acquaintances who have looked at them on GE  and individual image stats for each image show registered GE views. )

I am not arguing about whether or not they should have been selected in the first place - that is the decision of  the reviewers.

 

But something strange is happening in the selection process.

The message below  the images which were de-selected reverted to "Not selected for GE. Ask for a second review"   I asked for a second review on those images and some were "Selected for GE" whilst others were not.

I had more GE views for them yesterday but today the images which were originally accepted and became deselected and were then reselected were yet again deselected with an option to apply for a second review..If you look at the first page you will see the images concerned .

 

I am currently waiting to see if some of the images will be reselected yet again.

 

I am of the opinion that this problem should be reported to the team on two counts - Courtesy and Bug in the system allowing me to apply for a second review on more than one occasion.

 

I hope there is someone who reads this post who can ask for a solution.

 

Hope I have not bored you

 

MikeS

[mikstan43]

Hello from UK , Papkassen,

 

I see that your deselected image is quite an old one. I wonder who on the team has been tasked to carry out these 4th reviews ?

 

Not that I am really interested in who it might be !!!!

 

MikeS

[Draken]

Very interesting. I have just reported to the Team the system allows users to apply for a second review on more than one occasion.

I also passed the excellent suggestion that a message saying "We have deselected this image" could be put into effect. I think this message would avoid the chance to apply for a second review more than once.

Thank you Mikstan43!!

[df3vi]

Here is one (by another user): http://www.panoramio.com/photo/78879538

It is marked as "not selected after a second review".

But there is no hint that is was selected before.

The hint is in the statistics. The photo has 429 views on GE (still increasing, even though it is  not selected anymore).

It seems the reviewers do not have enough to do with the new photos, so they check older ones again?
Or is it simply a bug that Panoramio "forgets" on older photos that they have been selected?

[df3vi]

No good idea, Draken. Just as the selection process is sometimes faulty, also the deselection can be. So there should still be the chance to recheck if wrongfully deselected. Otherwise the forum will soon be full with requests for that...

[hvbemmel]

First of all, I´m against reports about wrongfully selected photos by users, specially when these are photos that are selected long ago, because rules are implemented more strictly nowadays., but that´s my personal opinion, you win some, you lose some..

I think Draken is right. 

Deselection is not done by a reviewer,  but by someone who has the power to overrule the reviewers, who has part in the "making" of the rules and bring this in the reviewers meeting to discuss. So in a way this person can not wrongfully deselect. in any way he should not be overruled by a reviewer.

Bringing it back in the reviewing pipeline is counterproductive as the reviewing should get better from the deselecting of wrongly accepted photos. 

  

[Draken]

Thank you Herman. You have answered the OP's interest to know who is in charge of deselecting photos.

As you said bringing back photos to the reviewing pipeline is counterproductive. The person in charge of deselecting should in fact has the final word and say "the buck stops here".

[Galatas ©]

Interesting phenonema , I entered the coordinates for two of the photo examples quoted ( 78879538 and  15060749 )
When I zoom in at those locations the map turns grey at an altitude of around 500 feet. Elsewhere on GE it's possible to zoom until the map will enlarge no further but it doesn't turn grey.
I'm wondering if these photos have not in fact been deselected but are the victims of some sort of GE bug ?  Just a thought.

[papkassen]

Galatas © , by me they don' t turn grey, and the id 78879538, has 126 GE views in the last 30 days

[mikstan43]

Further to my post above.

 

I  am able to report that some of the selected/deselected/reselected/deselected images have now been re-reselected.

 

They are on the first page of my gallery.

 

I do not propose to make any further comment on this matter ( unless they are re-de-selected !!!! )

 

MikeS

[Draken]

"I am able to report that some of the selected/deselected/reselected/deselected images have now been re-reselected."

However, one question remains: Did those photos get reselected and re-reselected without your asking it?  That would be very strange. If you did ask for a review or re-review, why did you do it?  Only one possible answer: you are sure those photos deserve to be selected according to the Photo Acceptance Policy. 

I went to see those photos since I surmised they were on your first photo page. Please correct me if I am wrong, if those are not the photos you are talking about. But If you are talking about photos of vessels and decks in my opinion they are wrongly selected (my interpretation of the Photo Acceptance Policy, of course).

[mikstan43]

In my last post in this thread I said I would not comment further "unless" !!

I am able to report that my selected/deselected/reselected/deselected/reselected images have ,of course, again been deselected..

So out of a total of 12 images originally selected there has been a 100% selection error the first time of selection, and a 50% selection error on the reselection.

I just hope the system does not de- credit the views I have been credited with for the period they have been on GE !!

May I request that this thread now be closed without further comment - unless someone else can see the humorous side of this situation. !!

MikeS

[Draken]

Please remember there is a thread at the top of this forum where you can submit your wrongly selected photos for deselection.  Thank you for keeping Google Earth with photos that comply with the Photo Acceptance Policy.

Thread locked as per OP request.