GOOGLE ARROGANCE

[Peter van Lom]

IMO this so called migration shows just Google Arrogance yet again. All the points that passionate users made these last hours are valid. Much has been invested from our side (the users) but can the same be said about Google? We should be asked. And don't give me that sh... about that this is a free site.

[Frank T. Schmelz]

This is totally wrong in my view:

"Panoramio doesn't have a wide enough selection of images to meet Google Maps' needs, said Evan Rapoport, the Google product manager in charge of Panoramio and Views (...)"

Source: http://www.cnet.com/news/google-to-axe-panoramio-photo-sharing-service-move-to-views/

Best wishes 
Frank

[♠ c0l0gne1 ♣]

Just draw the consequences:
If you haven't done so already, first of all save a copy of everything you've uploaded to Panoramio and other Google Services, then start deleting photos on Panoramio and also change all contributions in G+ to sharing privately so the photos don't show in Views.
You will lose all comments and views, but that's a price I'm prepared to pay.

[Peter van Lom]

http://www.cnet.com/news/google-to-axe-panoramio-photo-sharing-service-move-to-views/  

Talking about ARROGANCE and LACK of insight.

A few years ago I joined a nice and working community.... and look what Google has done with it....

[Derek Graham]

This is CRAP!! Who were the ones that kept knocking back legitimate photos we posted and now they say they don't have a wide enough selection!

[df3vi]

This statement just shows that Ratoport still hasn't the slightest clue about Panoramio. It actually has everything he wants for Maps; saying that we have only landscape photos is just bull....

[Matthew Walters]

I find Evan's comment about content more than a little patronising. He also states that views is the first site linking travellers and photographers. I think he's overlooking something.

September 9

“What Views is letting us do is let people supply images of the places they go, knowing that’s also probably the places that other people go,” product manager Evan Rapoport told Digital Trends in a Monday interview at company headquarters. “It’s the first photography community that connects photographers to travelers.”

Welcoming photos makes Google Views perilously similar to another Google-owned service, Panoramio. But Rapoport, who also handles that service, insists it will remain alive and thriving. The difference, he contends, will be in the type of photos each service hosts. Panoramio will continue to host scenic vistas and postcard shots of icons like the Eiffel Tower or Taj Mahal, while Views will cater to all types of photography, including snapshots.

September 16

The little-known Panoramio service will eventually disappear as Google moves to a new Views option for sharing location-linked photos -- and adding imagery to Google Maps.

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Anybody want to take bets on the next announcement? At least politicians have the grace to wait until they are elected before revising their comments.

[Shain Paiment]

Google is just a bully, forcing people to do what it wants them to do. Just a school yard bully. Clueless the users of Panoramio and what they want to do or are doing. 

[Hans Sterkendries]

I've been away for a few days without internet access, so this is a cold shower for me. 

The lack of professional courtesy on behalf of the team is appalling so I can't help but agree with calling this arrogance.

I will spend the next few days thinking about 

1 what I want to do, 

2 what we maybe can do as a community

and

3 how we can make this work for the best if it comes to the worst.

I've got 1,000 business cards with my Panormaio url on them! Thanks, Evan! Thanks, Adam! Thanks, team!

[Peter NO VIEWS]

Hans, this only one thing what I mean with lack of insight. Panoramio is so much more than free pictures for GE /GM

[Pierre M.]

Hello hans !

I agree, agree with you ! +1

[Peter NO VIEWS]

The update from Brian McClendon is far from convincing. They can't get the fact that Pano is a living community and that g+ is not an option for many photographers.

[Luud Old]

Is there life on Pluto? Is there a place among the stars where I can go ?

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Op vrijdag 19 september 2014 11:53:43 UTC+2 schreef Hans Sterkendries:

[df3vi]

It has been said before: Google is willing to do anything to boost up G+ and to pass Facebook, it will even sell its soul, so forcing the Panoramio community to G+ is just a logical step.
The new motto is "Do evil for G+".

[Lady GooGoo La La]

I am amazed at the chosen timing, nothing seems to be ready for Panoramio members, and it appears Views isn't anywhere near completion.

This only exemplifies how blind and single minded the Google team is, let's build an social empire where we can sit on our thrown a View the world, and only further demonstrates what I said before about their egos and merely full-filling their dreams of an application that will do everything for everyone, but in reality is a poorly conceived and planned project that is doomed to failure!

Instead of Panoramas and Pizza's, they could call it, Panacea  by combining the related words panorama and diarrhea.

The cure-all for all your photographic itches!

I apologise for the name, I know its naughty but it seemed appropriate!

[Philip Scott Johnson]

Sad to see Panoramio end but GLAD to see the end of Groups.... tired of seeing 100 junk posts in a row by the same user

[davidcmc58]

I use products from all major internet players such as Yahoo, Google, Apple, Facebook with varying frequencies and I have to say that Google seems to have the LOWEST MORAL STANDARDS among them. There have not been much of "bait & switch" from other folks but Google just continues to manipulate and bullying loyal members into using their inferior social media site named G+. Instead of making G+ a state-of-the-art social media that is far far superior to Facebook, Google chose to throw in all the ingredients of other sites that they own. They have done so with Picasa Web, Youtube and now Google Maps / Panoramio. I joined Youtube to upload and view videos, not social media! I joined Picasaweb to store my family photos on the cloud, not social media! I joined Panoramio to do geo-tagged photo sharing, not social media! As successful as Google is, I have lost respect for this company as it totally ignores the wishes of it's customers.

[Hans Sterkendries]

Irony, David: https://www.google.com/about/company/philosophy/

;-)

[~Marlene~ No Views!]

Here's an article that makes your point very clearly… https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20140918140322-1321910-why-google-plus-is-irrelevant?_mSplash=1  It looks like they have a very long way to go to beat Facebook! And if Google+ fails, what then happens with Views?

[hvbemmel]

Great Hans I will paste some of the appropriate headers here, I will not make comments under it, I think its clear::

GM employees, from low until vice president can you hold this list against your new products

We first wrote these “10 things” when Google was just a few years old. From time to time we revisit this list to see if it still holds true. We hope it does—and you can hold us to that.

Ten things we know to be true

1. Focus on the user and all else will follow .
2. It’s best to do one thing really, really well.
3. Fast is better than slow.
4. Democracy on the web works.

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     10. Great just isn’t good enough.

 

[Luud Old]

 Number 1, I would change : Focus on Google and many sycophants and stakeholders will follow 

Op zondag 21 september 2014 08:26:35 UTC+2 schreef hvbemmel:

[df3vi]

Update:

No. 1 changed to "Focus on G+ and all else will follow".
No. 2 to 10 have been deleted.

[Hans Sterkendries]

The way I read that Google philosophy Google Views is a abomination of a number of their basic rules.

Focus on the user and all else will follow.

Views in no way is what the Panoramio users are looking for. With the discontinuation of Panoramio Google closes down a website that was dedicated to photography and replaces it by a website dedicated to unedited and random snapshots. Instead of feeding a valid geo-centric project like Google Maps/Google Earth our pictures will now mainly feed a lousy social network. What I was looking for when I joined Panoramio was a photography website where a large majority of people takes pride of their work.

It’s best to do one thing really, really well.

"We do search." Clearly not. We want to do social as well. By mixing real photography with snapshots Google is combining two perfectly valid hobbies into one really, really bad outlet. My picture are carefully selected and edited and will now have to compete with automated feeds of family albums.

Fast is better than slow.

Clearly not when they were working on the bugs that were introduced a year ago. Now these same bugs appear to be nothing less than an excuse to close down this site. A few weeks ago I quoted this scene from The Big Bang Theory on this very same forum: http://aflawedfashion.tumblr.com/post/49041517729 

Democracy on the web works.

Who are we kidding? Like many others, I do welcome change if it is for the better but I could easily draw up a list of 10-15 reasons why the introduction of Vews is not. As far as I know not a single Panoramio user has been asked their opinion and the tendancy on this forum seems to be against the discontinuation of this site. In a democracy Panoramio would be kept alive as Googhle photography website, not to be confused with the Instagram alternative Views.

[Pierre M.]

Hello Hans.

http://www.newdigitalage.com/

look like cyperpunk book like Neuromancer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromancer)

Pierre

[Ivonna Nowicka]

I couldn't agree more in your opinion about Google. Is there no law against internet monopoly!

Oh lawmakers - please save us from a company aspiring at a complete net-monopoly

[Tomros - undecided now]

It just occurred to me- no arrogance at all! Very clever from Google!

Upsetting a large number people and get them writing thousands on comment gets the previously unknown and unused web site into the limelight. 

Views is now prominently embedded  in the minds of Panoramiacs!!

No such a thing as BAD PUBLICITY. 

[Draken]

Only being sarcastic, I guess.

Because bad publicity and cleverness don't match, do they?

[~Marlene~ No Views!]

Have you ever heard the famous expression, "There is no such thing as bad publicity except your own obituary."?

[Peter NO VIEWS]

I take your point ;-)

[dhanasekarangm]

Mr. Evan Rapoport's  proposal  to "kill" panoramio, will eventually kill the inspiration & potentials of a large current group of members ("users") of panoramio community

 &   the Google's views may not reach the proportion as Panoramio as the yearlong identity of the contributor of panoramio will be  lost   and the  switching over (migrating) to Views will be sluggish.

 Accidentally I do have 3 photographs in "Views" view due to misclick occurred on  jumping of my mouse cursor! 

As a real user (other than a member of the community) I use Google Earth/Panoramio in conjunction with the markings in Wikimapia - that feeds only what one really want & not force with the things one do not need.

With so much discussions & expressions of the feelings of the community let us hope that Evan Rapoport will entertain 

a second thought over the proposal & will not wait till 10000 signatures (petitions) are registered - 

(possibly several users could be on vacation or availing a breathing period before resuming to have a look into the current developments) 

and allow panoramio to survive  considering the introduction of such features of the "Views" into panoramio itself or rather allow it to coexist & be with interdependent features.

Can anybody think whether Google will be unwise to lose a large community of contributor to Panoramio!