A New Pano Type Community

[Adam Elmquist]

Hello Panoramio community members I've been wondering what could be the probability of a new Panoramio community for in the future after the Map View Migration.  I see two sides of the Panoramio shutdown I see why Google is going to Map Views I am looking forward to it for the mobile friendliness and the new features.  At the same time this petition going around with so many members feel that something really is going to be lost which it is.  I am thinking could it be possible when migrating over to views that if the user chooses to do so could keep the Panoramio community alive.  The new Panoramio would no longer store photos rather just link to photos what is now in Map Views.  A few big reasons why Google wants to shutdown the current Panoramio is old platform, but the masses are not using Panoramio...  Months prior to the Shutdown announcement the biggest thing going around in the forum was lack of views.  Its true I see countless Panoramio account that are not active, seems like most members created accounts years ago put a handful of photos and never used it again.  Comments / questions left unanswered, those countless accounts are just like old houses with cob webs instead of people.

So my question is that once we can start Migrating over to Map Views could we have the option to keep a new community only Panoramio that would link to photos of Map View.  This new smaller Pano community would only benefit the active users who choose to keep Panoramio alive, while the countless users who are not active their photos accounts would most likely be deleted after the period of way after Map Views migration.  This new community could either be separate from Google or still a part of Google some how possibly under G+.  Please I don't want negative feedback saying my idea is a waste its just something to think about, for us active members who have never left Panoramio.

[Draken]

In other words, you only want users who support your idea participating in this thread, is that it?  It seems to me you think your idea is waterproof.

Google can create a Panoramio Community within Google+. That community would have the exclusive privilege and prerogative that its photos would be eligible for GE or GM. However, the core features of Panoramio would be lost.

[IPAAT]

Google can create a Panoramio Community within Google+. That community would have the exclusive privilege and prerogative that its photos would be eligible for GE or GM. However, the core features of Panoramio would be lost.

I think Draken is right. Unfortunately.

[Adam Elmquist]

Certain criteria would have to be met, like actively replying to comments, adding new photos, over a certain amount of photos a user has to have in their account to be eligible, that sort of thing.  Once in the new format uploading new photos and mapping would be done in Map Views just that photos would be shared or linked back to Panoramio.  This idea is sort of like a company who had lots of stores before, but now has shutdown under performing locations and changed the format to be viable in a new market or world, to stay in business.

This community for active members really has been special and should not be lost but we do have to change or be forced to move on.  Unless that petition can change minds in HQ at Google.

[Hans Sterkendries]

Adam, I like you spirit but I don't see how it can be done. And there are a few errors in your line of thinking: 

- I never paid much attention to the viewcount and therefore I cannot be sure but it seems to me the reclining viewcount on Panoramio is largely due to the lower exposure on GM and GE. Okay, this had lead to a lesser interest in Panoramio itself but basically it's Google's own fault and it's sad and frankly disgusting that they use the reclining viewcount as an excuse to shut down Panoramio.

- How hard can it be to update the platform? In fact Panoramio is already running on the Google servers and uses mostly Google technology. It seems to me that's just another excuse...

- The way I understand Views that website is nothing but a API-based display of pictures that are hosted on Google+ (and technically on Google Drive). At least that is the solution that is now offered to Panoramio users who wish to migrate. How hard can it be to maintain Panoramio as a back-end and display the pictures hosted there on Views? 

[Draken]

I agree with you. 

Let me add I think  they are assuming the future of photography is in smartphones to make traditional photos and photo spheres. They don't want users who spend time composing photos and editing. All has to be instantaneous: click the shutter on your smartphone, then click send to Google Maps. Voila!! More photos and in the quickest possible way.

[Adam Elmquist]

I've just wanted better mobile performance from Panoramio in the past, when I only had my mobile not a desktop computer I could not reply to comments write someone a message as those elements never performed well on mobile.  Then when I'm in the field shooting on more than one occasion I wanted to show others next to me some of my previous photos of a spot I was at it, took me a very long for me to correctly load the map even with Wifi.  To bring up the photo I wanted to show the person next to me, as with the rest of you I really don't like the idea of just shooting a photo and uploading to a site that is just cluttering things up unless the image is perfect.  I like to crop, edit, using such tools as iPhoto, Aperture, Gimp, HDR Soft and so on before I upload to the net.

[hvbemmel]

I said it before, there´s nothing against a mobile experience, certainly not when it is tablet size. The big problem, like with W8, is that developers think the world will be ruled by a touchscreen, as if they want to force us to throw away all other input devices. They can think it´s archaic, something for old people, but I never will make a few hundred characters in a minute on a touch screen, something I do on a keyboard. My mouse is much quicker in finding a spot and "understanding" what I want there as my thick finger and my 22 Inch screen shows me all I need instead that half of the screen is occupied by a virtual keyboard.

Yes to mobile devices and certainly yes to lap / desktops with (also) other input devices as a touchscreen. Microsoft seems to have got the message. Google, never looking back or sideways and never looking further as the near future needs to get his own message.  

What happened here is that they developed a site with two main goals: Mobile and G+ . So we get Maps that looses functionality because it has to be used on mobiles and we get views that was developed for spheres and now everything else has to fit in. 

Like this groups structure never was meant to be used as a forum with all ins and outs, views will never be able to host Panoramio in an optimal way as it has not been developed for the needs of a photo sharing site like Panoramio and there is no will to make it fit, like this forum lost many of it users because (i.e.) there is no easy way to show photos etc, Panoramio will lose those users that made it alive. PA will assimilate with G+ photos in the end and I do not feel any interest from Google in making it interesting for us to stay. They keep telling us that all will be awesome and we will like it, but they still can´t explain why. 

Almost a year ago it became possible to attach your PA account with a G+ account, I asked Adam again and again what would be the gain for a Panoramio user to do so, in case anyone would ask. I never got an other answer as that it would be profitable for the user. The same is happening again, come to Views and you will see how it will benefit you. Home shopping TV:  You get less for more and it will never work as promised. 

[Peter NO VIEWS]

Where is Google Earth in your report?  Core thought for many is showing the world how it is!

[© Tom Cooper not going to Views]

Herman said: They keep telling us that all will be awesome and we will like it, but they still can´t explain why.

 

This seems to come up over and over again.  Do they think we are too stupid to see through it?  It may be awesome...for Google.  But we are not captives and will go elsewhere.

 

Tom

[skida]

It would seem that the opinion of the powers that be in Google is that users of cameras, who spend time thinking and looking before shooting, then spending time carefully editing to bring out the qualities of the shot and accurately geo-tagging before uploading, are all dinosaurs and don't fit in with the "awsomeness" of Google. The enthusiastic photographers here are about to be discarded along with many years worth of comments, likes and favourites. It is a similar action to burning books that don't share the same dogma. Come on Google! - Don't be evil!

[dhanasekarangm]

Hi Adam, 

You say " ...Its true I see countless Panoramio account that are not active, seems like most members created accounts years ago put a handful of photos and never used it again.  Comments / questions left unanswered, those countless accounts are just like old houses with cob webs instead of people"

It is not uncommon that in every popular website there are a sizable  percentage of inactive users for several reasons -  

1) Expired people

2) People ( at the start of the Panoramio Web Site) who forgot their log in password  & lose track permanently & open a new account if their previous account do not have much of photographs

3) Dormant (really inactive) due to loss of interest

4) Active in some other field of work & so currently not active in panoramio - later reactivate their account

5) Many users limit their activity with a limited resource restricting to their own residential village or locality 

    - this really happens  where people have opened accounts with a borrowed net connection  or from their workplace & unable to follow up for want of equipments 

6) User Opening more than one Account will be active only in one account.

As I already suggested the photos, with incorrect mapping reported, if unanswered or not corrected  for > 30 days may be removed from Google Earth / Google Maps. 

The inactive accounts may be terminated after a specific period of time say One year or so.

This is the way we need to clean-up Panoramio Site incorporating such features that were claimed to have been added in "Views"  and not by killing Panoramio 

Please think of the active Users which are in no way in small numbers - possibly the number  getting improved with the advent of new technology & smart phone.

Viewers base will depend on the display of photographs Mostly in Google Earth. Smart phone users though equipped with Geo Mapping facility they  do not add proper title or description of the place / object photographed unless they do it again in the Desktop at home. Photos with no title is like a letter with no address on envelop.  Search engines will also not take the viewers to such photos of Specific place.

Now, it is high time Google review their decision, in a juncture the campaign to Keep Panoramio Alive  is nearing 10,000 petitioners -and so many cannot be wrong in persuading Google to keep Panoramio Alive. 

Panoramio may be allowed to coexist even with a different name "Panoviews" ( if Google are planning to commercialise the website !) vis-à-vis Google Views

[Adam Elmquist]

I am saying little number of active users because, lets face it the petition should be way over 1 million signatures by now if Panoramio users all were active and concerned.  If this was FaceBook and a petition campaign surfaced to make a change on FB, how many signatures would be there?

[Draken]

Sorry Adam not a good comparison at all. Panoramio and FB work completely different.

Yes, little activity but we don't know how many users are actually active (surely not 8 million). It is not easy to contact members, who, by the way, don't speak the same language. Were you who asked for positive feedback?

[Adam Elmquist]

I'm comparing in that way because Google just like any other company takes surveys and see whats being heavily used compared to what isn't.  Whatever is getting less usage is typically the thing a company lets go either by selling the product or service off to another company or just stopping it 100%..

[Draken]

So badly has The Panoramio/Google Maps VIews Team neglected this website in the last year that as a consequence the activity has dropped dramatically. It was evident in the statistics but also in the comments and the amount of photos uploaded.  I call this a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[© Tom Cooper not going to Views]

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

 

It might be over 1 million if all active users were active, concerned, and informed.  Ignoring that little detail can be huge.

 

I have proven every time I go looking that more than 95% of those with over 200 photos and have uploaded at least one photo in the previous 5 days have no info about the shutdown in their comment stream.  The vast majority of active Panoramio users do not know that Panoramio is being shut down, and do not know about the petition.

 

Because you and I have received hundreds of comments about it does not mean those not connected to the larger network have received any at all.  I have found accounts with as many as 20,000 photos with nothing in the first 5 pages of their comment stream about the shutdown.

 

Tom

[dhanasekarangm]

On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 3:45:35 AM UTC+5:30, Adam Elmquist wrote:

I've just wanted better mobile performance from Panoramio in the past, when I only had my mobile not a desktop computer I could not reply to comments write someone a message as those elements never performed well on mobile.  Then when I'm in the field shooting on more than one occasion I wanted to show others next to me some of my previous photos of a spot I was at it, took me a very long for me to correctly load the map even with Wifi.  To bring up the photo I wanted to show the person next to me, as with the rest of you I really don't like the idea of just shooting a photo and uploading to a site that is just cluttering things up unless the image is perfect.  I like to crop, edit, using such tools as iPhoto, Aperture, Gimp, HDR Soft and so on before I upload to the net.

  as regards  mobile uploads  a long wait will be required till a new community of dedicated mobile performers are generated on par with the panoramio community - may be, till then the site will be dumped predominantly with indoor photographs!  

[dhanasekarangm]

in that case Google could opt for an independent Social site (call it Goosio -  ironically Gooface / Googface already registered accounts in Facebook!)  on par with Facebook - I mean independent - without converting a library into a butchery for there is a demand for bacon - books goes to archives - bacon to WC

[Peter NO VIEWS]

Right, statistics don't mean a thing if one does not know the background and how the numbers are used. To many assumptions don't make the statistics more correct. As Tom I noticed too (and I could have counted; the basis of statistics)  that users are still not informed. It seems that the core of informers are running around in circles and only once in a while find a new active uninformed user. It has been the red thread of my experience with Google that they don't inform (listen and act). This has accumulated to the self fulfilling prophecy Draken mentioned above. As long Google does not produce any numbers I guess we are not that far off.

[© Tom Cooper not going to Views]

I just thought I'd follow up with a few examples.  It took me about 30 minutes to come up with these 9 (just under one every three minutes):

 

User ID  User Name            # Photos  Most recent upload  First notice
3105950  H. A                 808       4 days ago          Mine - today
6589134  IIaxa[RUS]           8575      5 hours ago         Mine - today
8427315  Faber Fotos          344       10 days ago         Mine - today
458130   Sergei Leshchinsky   1590      9 days ago          Mine - today -- This user has been on Panoramio since 2007,

                                                                            and his first info on the shutdown was TODAY!
230120   Friedhelm Hofstetter 129       Sept. 23            Mine - today -- This user has also been on Panoramio since 2007,

                                                                            and his first info on the shutdown was TODAY!
4175417  mthr 110             15917     4 days ago          Mine - today
6586151  David Oppenheimer    2257      Yesterday           Mine - today
7807402  robert ou            862       20 hours ago        Mine - today
1605624  Gualberto Valderrama 12317     1 hour ago          Mine - today

 

Tom

[Peter NO VIEWS]

Nice work Tom. I must be running around in circles more than you ;-)

kl. 22:34:32 UTC+2 torsdag 9. oktober 2014 skrev © Tom Cooper not going to Views følgende:

I just thought I'd follow up with a few examples.  It took me about 30 minutes to come up with these 9 (just under one every three minutes):

 

User ID  User Name            # Photos  Most recent upload  First notice
3105950  H. A                 808       4 days ago          Mine - today
6589134  IIaxa[RUS]           8575      5 hours ago         Mine - today
8427315  Faber Fotos          344       10 days ago         Mine - today
458130   Sergei Leshchinsky   1590      9 days ago          Mine - today -- This user has been on Panoramio since 2007,

                                                                            and his first info on the shutdown was TODAY!
230120   Friedhelm Hofstetter 129       Sept. 23            Mine - today -- This user has also been on Panoramio since 2007,

                                                                            and his first info on the shutdown was TODAY!
4175417  mthr 110             15917     4 days ago          Mine - today
6586151  David Oppenheimer    2257      Yesterday           Mine - today
7807402  robert ou            862       20 hours ago        Mine - today
1605624  Gualberto Valderrama 12317     1 hour ago          Mine - today

 

Tom

On Thursday, October 9, 2014 10:49:10 AM UTC-5, © Tom Cooper not going to Views wrote:

[Draken]

In Views we will have this kind of galleries:

http://www.panoramio.com/user/7775094

[Adam Elmquist]

This is my Views page.

https://www.google.com/maps/views/profile/101734947076017546609

It don't look that bad and I saw a lot of photos have already gotten viewed.

I never set up the Map Views page, its getting the photos from my G+ photo Gallery.

I would rather pick and choose what photos get uploaded on views like I do for Panoramio

My public photos are automatically geotagged from my GPS camera.

[Draken]

I see. You have 60.800 photos uploaded.

[Adam Elmquist]

Not too many of my photos that aren't on Panoramio.  :-)   Panoramio photos: 55470 Views photos:   60,800 difference of  5,330

I was / am using Picasaweb for as my storage locker of photos now Picasaweb is still Picasa but now linked / a product of G+ photos.

[hvbemmel]

I particualry like photo 34,601 in your album. 

see my point?

On Friday, 17 October 2014 05:58:41 UTC+2, Adam Elmquist wrote:

Not too many of my photos that aren't on Panoramio.  :-)   Panoramio photos: 55470 Views photos:   60,800 difference of  5,330

I was / am using Picasaweb for as my storage locker of photos now Picasaweb is still Picasa but now linked / a product of G+ photos.

On Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:21:11 PM UTC-4, Draken wrote:

[Tomros - undecided now]

Sorry Adam. 61000 images, but no info, no tags, no description, no titles, no albums, no exif, no nothing!. 

Useless, at least for me.

what a useless site, non of my photos are going to go to this photo garbage bin. That what it is! 

see my point?

[dhanasekarangm]

Yes "not that bad" but compared to Panoramio, Views is bad enough .... 

1. no EXIF information, 

2.no title display (Panoramio has title display even  in the thumbnail stage itself )

3. no batch upload page ? (I have not checked ) -  definitely not that easy as that of Panoramio.

4. no pages scroll,

5. no album, 

6. no tags to classify,

7. no option for mass tags, 

8. no option for mass edit at thumb nail stage  

9. no access for a specific search, 

10.waste of time for the viewers to keep on scrolling  

11.waste of net time & unnecessary downloads, 

12.no title display even on mouse hover at least with transparency compelling the viewer to go to the map & re- search & research.... wasting time 

....may be  much more the forum members may bring to light please.

improvement should have upward trend & not be downward as if it is from Core 2 duo back to Pentium II without going for the higher one -. that is to say it is desirable that  more facilities (features) can be  introduced into panoramio itself instead of terminating  it. The community may not mind if advt / commercials are introduced in the panoramio page itself if that is the ultimate intention of Google to launch Google views.

Please never compare with facebook for that reason (number of hits) for Panoramio is entirely different - a Geographical  - & keep the identity of Panoramio 

[Wim Constant]

Over the years I've reported lots of users like this and they were deleted in no time!

Now suddenly it becomes common use to have galleries like this.

And we, the "old" Panoramio users are ALLOWED  to put OUR photos between these commercials.

I simply HATE the idea to share my photos with these kind of galleries.

Op vrijdag 17 oktober 2014 04:48:53 UTC+2 schreef Draken:

[dhanasekarangm]

We, the community may still tolerate  if the premium  corporate users are allowed to upload their commercials along the margins or  the suitable  predominant blank spaces under comment box  to enliven Panoramio (literally)

[df3vi]

I don't think this would be appropriate for Goggle Map Views either.

Or this: http://www.panoramio.com/user/8414659

[df3vi]

So you have not even been asked by Google if you want these photos to show on GMViews? How do you feel about that?
Are you glad that you had no private photos in your G+ albums that had been published on Maps?
However imho Google must have asked before they put any G+ gallery on Maps / Views. But if you are Google maybe you don't have to...
You know you can remove photos or albums by hiding the location data?

[papkassen]

I am trying views /?

and to no ! : there is EXIF for the pics in G+

no. 2: you kan put title on each pic, or it use the album title

no. 3 :you can upload a hole album from your picasa, or direct choose several pics from your PC

That is som of the things I have tried

[papkassen]

you can choose an album or pic. and easy remove the public button

[hvbemmel]

Views (the website) shows photos that are marked public in Picasaweb / G+ , The G+ / GM teams seem to think that public is public so they have the right to do it like this. I´m sure this will fit within the TOS.

In my eyes this is an abuse of the User Generated Content. What fits within the rules of the TOS doesn´t always fit within the rules of decency, within the way how people interact with each other. I don´t want to know how many photos are shown in GM that were never meant to end up there and from which the user just doesn´t know they are there. There are many inactive PA users with UGC, so within G+ this amount will be even bigger. The fact that you can toggle this off (every album on its own, hidden under the "more" button) does not make this right.  

[Adam Elmquist]

Guys to show what photo 34,601 is you can copy and paste the URL of that photo, and the Meta data is shown you just have click photo details.  Also I do have private photos that are automatically geo-tagged I keep those in private non public albums, Panoramio never had an option like that of Picasa / G+ does.

I've had instances where people didn't know the Panoramio photo ID they just told me it was the photo in the park in those cases looking for that Panoramio was a needle in a hay stack as well.  Until they gave photo ID / URL of that Panoramio photo.

In Picasaweb as for photo info you can put information down Tags, titles, captions, to each photo its just that I've been using my Picasaweb way before Views its my online public and private photo locker I never had a need for titles or tags.  I have everything sorted by albums name no need for tags for myself, not what I am using the site for anyways.  For me Panoramio and G+/Picasaweb are way too different sites not used the same way until when the time comes.

Once the Panoramio to Views transition comes into place I could restructure what I've been doing and start tagging, putting titles down etc.  That's what we hope by Google meeting our demands that everything that we did to a photo as far as title and tags are going to be brought over.

For the ones here that are giving negative feedback its time to start uploading to another site Non Google, there are many nice paid site options that professional photographers use, some of them considered Panoramio not good enough that's why they have their own domain name.  I Personally don't feel that way I've loved Panoramio but it has gotten old and as long as the terms are met I'm willing to see what Google does have in store for my current Panoramio collection.

[Pierre M.]

And perhaps this : (sorry, sorry dear Draken and Herman for this photo !!)

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/5939123

[Tomros - undecided now]

Adam, I TRIED TO NAVIGATE YOUR GALLERY, but i only report my experience doing so.

i have not seen anything you describe. must be well hidden.

to use two sites to get information is stupid. Anyway, if the info is there, it is useless to visitor like me, who is not familiar with the site.

it puts me right off!    

[Adam Elmquist]

Photo details is to the right of every photo you can hit that it shows meta data.  I just had a comment which I got directly as a notification in G+ check this photo out.  Note I don't have titles or tags because as of right now I'm using the site as my cloud storage locker as a backup.  People can view photos on there in albums I have public.  If you navigate to picasaweb.google.com upload a few photos you can input tags, titles, captions.  Once new features are implemented I'm sure Map Views will be somewhat familiar to Panoramio.

[Draken]

Adam

With all due respect, haven't you considered for a second your underlined statement may sound a bit patronising to those you are addressing? In the same vein, isn't it time for you to stop participating in Panoramio which Google has clearly made into a non Google (supported) platform? You seem to be on your own defending something that maybe looks new but definitively lacks a lot of features and leaves a lot to be desired when compared to poor old Panoramio.

By the way, what did you mean by "a new Pano type community"? I don't see any community at all in Views.

[Adam Elmquist]

People are defending only what they know they don't want to move on.  My original saying of a new Panoramio is to keep the structure and the community of Panoramio the way it is its just that the photos will be hosted on Map Views and linked back to the new Pano format that feels the same.

Right now I had to get used to Google+ even though I am used to Picasaweb.  Right now ultimately picasaweb.google.com is Google+ photos.  They are the same photo Galleries, and albums but the two sites act differently from each other.

I thought yourself included was with moving forward as long as some of those core features of Panoramio are brought over to the new system?  Tags have been on Picasaweb just haven't worked the way we are used to them on Panoramio and captions is your title for the photo.  I have been using Picasaweb way before Panoramio.  Since google implementing G+ made changes some of them better some a little confusing with Picasaweb, but I learned to use both sites side by side to make the best of it.  There is still about 3 functions G+ doesn't have yet for album properties that do exist in Picasaweb.  Since G+ was rolled out it even affected users on Youtube some of them were mad but now it seems like most people in the Youtube community have learned and embraced G+ functionality to even make Youtube that much better.

Again I can't be any clearer on this I do still like using Panoramio and I to would like core functions to be brought over before I say migrate my Panoramio tagged and titled photos over.  Yes there will be then duplicates but one set in the Panoramio format and one set in the Picasaweb format.

On another note I can't begin to tell you how many times I've been asked to delete yes delete photos from Panoramio that are of business locations because the Panoramio photo uploaded automatically became the default photo for the Google business listing just because I had the title of the photo exact of the business name.  Maybe the way I have no titles on my G+ is a good thing the photos I can clearly see the photo are being viewed but I haven't yet been asked to remove photos or we will pursue legal action threats on G+.

Some people have already left Panoramio, maybe its my time.  I won't have to worry about the transition or worry if my photos will be deleted because I already have them on G+ / Picasaweb / Map Views.  At this point I'm not planing to delete my Pano account or the photos but lets be open and accept the new change as long as some of those core Pano features are brought over I'm really not worried I think the teams at Google are hard at work, they don't want to see the masses start deleting accounts.

[Roger Heath]

Adam - I looked at your page and my question is this. How far do I have to scroll to see anything other than railway tracks and industrial buildings? I'm not being sarcastic, but strolling drives me nuts and I do not find this innovation satisfactory.

I've deleted my Panoramio since uploading seems a waste, and after reading this Forum for over a year, I do not see any changes other than slow decay. Google is not doing anything for Panoramio and the "new" wall to wall look with a huge map on the left is appalling, in my opinion! I'm glad it's working for you, but many of your photos can be seen on street views such as this -

https://www.google.com/maps/views/view/101734947076017546609/gphoto/6070124902824065458?gl=us

[Adam Elmquist]

Check this URL out:

https://plus.google.com/photos/+AdamElmquist/albums

Being a Railfan or Train Spotter I could never have enough train track photos every track is different, LOL  :-)

[Draken]

So, some of the features are on Google+.  They are forcing Google+ (which is not a photo sharing website/photo community) down our throats.  QED. Thanks.

[Roger Heath]

Adam - Interesting, but I couldn't find any reference to Albums on the page of your earlier link that scrolled on forever. How does one get from your page -

https://www.google.com/maps/views/profile/101734947076017546609?gl=us&pv=1&tab=2

to your album.

I guess we'll have to wait for Google to publish the 50 page instruction manual on how to use Google+ site for Photographers.

On Friday, October 17, 2014 11:00:59 AM UTC-7, Adam Elmquist wrote:

Check this URL out:

https://plus.google.com/photos/+AdamElmquist/albums

Being a Railfan or Train Spotter I could never have enough train track photos every track is different, LOL  :-)

On Friday, October 17, 2014 1:45:47 PM UTC-4, Roger Heath wrote:

[Draken]

Among Adam's albums there is one called "Sara Evans". Those photos are mapped and shared publicly. Therefore, its content is shown on Google Maps/Views.  Really? –Really.  Is that the kind of content Google wants? Illustrating the world? Forget about it.

Now imagine thousands, sorry, millions of that kind (and worse) of photos.

Besides, there are photos clearly not taken by Adam.  Mmmm, any copyright issues on the horizon?

[RoarX]

"Adam - Interesting, but I couldn't find any reference to Albums on the page of your earlier link that scrolled on forever. How does one get from your page -

https://www.google.com/maps/views/profile/101734947076017546609?gl=us&pv=1&tab=2 "

Hover mouse cursor over his name, wait for that "visit card" thing to show up. Click his name in that card thing, that will take you to his G+ profile (You cannot make a personal profile for Views with nickname and avatar, it take that info from your G+ profile). There is no direct link to the albums of a G+ user as far as I can see. That's disappointing and is another bad design decision by Google IMHO. You must alter the URL (smels like a typical Panoramio workaround...). Replace /i/0/ with /photos/ and replace whatever that is at the end (/about, /posts, /photos) with /albums
Then hit enter. This seems to be the way Google want things to be, cumbersome.

"I guess we'll have to wait for Google to publish the 50 page instruction manual on how to use Google+ site for Photographers."

Hah!! It will be like waiting for Windows 9...

[Adam Elmquist]

Maybe one day in the future they will have links between the different pages, Roger that's something that should be brought up to the G+ / Map View Team for linking the services together better.

Draken come on really now, my Sara Photos ones are public except for a few of them.  Panoramio has pornography http://www.panoramio.com/photo/5939123 maybe I should delete my Panoramio being that there is porn on Panoramio.  Those photos that aren't mine are downloads, FaceBook users have them by the tens of thousands besides I don't think most of them have map data anyways...   I could start uploading those photos to Panoramio if porn is on Panoramio I wonder what else.?

Here is another approach or concept why doesn't Google make Panoramio a paid subscription, that would help Panoramio become better service and thin out the inappropriate photos for mapping make more stringent guidelines with a paid subscription plan.

On Friday, October 17, 2014 6:04:35 PM UTC-4, Roger Heath wrote:

Adam - Interesting, but I couldn't find any reference to Albums on the page of your earlier link that scrolled on forever. How does one get from your page -

https://www.google.com/maps/views/profile/101734947076017546609?gl=us&pv=1&tab=2

to your album.

I guess we'll have to wait for Google to publish the 50 page instruction manual on how to use Google+ site for Photographers.

[Draken]

Adam

You can delude yourself as much as you please. That doesn't mean you can delude the rest of the world. 

Please start uploading porno to Panoramio and I can personally guarantee your account will be deleted. Do you want to bet?

[Adam Elmquist]

It doesn't look like that account has been deleted, the one with the porn.

I have to say years ago these forums were friendly but with the recent decision of Google it seems like tones are different here than what they used to be, I thought as long as Google Teams are working with us we would like Google.  Why Did Panoramio ever allowed to get bought by Google Years ago?  Once a new owner has a service or product its their right to stop it or change it.  If so many here in this forum are opposed to Google, Panoramio should never allowed itself get acquired by Google in July 2007.

[vladanscekic- NO Views !]

https://www.google.com/maps/views/profile/101734947076017546609?gl=us&pv=1&tab=2

I am scrolling, and scrolling ,scrolling again, keep scrolling......scrolling........      ..........scrolling    .....       . scro........        ....          Views- Brilliant invention from Google!

[Adam Elmquist]

I am no longer going to receive updates to this thread "unsubscribing" the tone has gotten uninviting.  The latest decision by Google coupled with the petition and testosterone, have seem to put fuel into the fire and the tone of the people here is getting to be a bit dramatic.

[Draken]

If the OP has decided to unsubscribe from this thread there is no point in keeping it open.

Go to the Views forum... oops, sorry there isn't one!!