views on Google Earth not counted for recent pictures

[Pom']

hello,

some of my recent most popular pictures not showing any view from GE, which is totally unusual, I made a test yesterday morning, I went on GE, but not connected to Panoramio, and I clicked several times, included full size, on [this picture](http://www.panoramio.com/photo/89317215), and waited for today's stats to check if it would show its first GE visits. It's still at zero. something must be wrong !

regards, pom'

[Draken]

Stats are supposed to be updated daily with a delay of 48 hours. If you did it yesterday they should appear tomorrow. 

The stats of the photo look pretty normal to me.

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/89317215/stats

 

[Pom']

thank you Draken for your fast answer. I had noticed before on previous tests that morning clicks (around before 10 am my time) were counted the day after (around 5 pm my time). still, you might be right. anyway I'll let you know tomorrow. Regards, pom'

[Galatas ©]

On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:12:03 PM UTC+1, Pom' wrote:

............................... had noticed before on previous tests that morning clicks (around before 10 am my time) were counted the day after (around 5 pm my time).

How do you know the clicks were your own and not from genuine views ? Are you in the habit of boosting your own views this way or is it purely for a one off test ?

[Pom']

 galatas, really very clever and most kind answer of you (just imagining such a question tells something about your own possible habits and state of mind... if I self-boosted my counters, given the number of "genuine" visits I usually get everyday, it wouldn't change significantly my results, even if I spent a lot of time on it), the test you're talking about was made on a dead picture not having received any more visits for a long time, and my "not genuine self boosting test" was heavy enough (relax, something like 10 clicks, the World still went round afterwards) to make the difference with some possible casual other visits.
 and if I did that, it's because I often have doubts about Panoramio stats system reliability. Last time I talked in this forum about a stat counting problem I first got mocking answers from people thinking only them can be right, or thinking that my question was an aggression, and then it turned out to be a true problem recognized by "the team", and it was eventually fixed.

[Tomas K☼h☼ut]

Pom, 

Stats can be updated next day (as Draken said), 48 time frame is usual. 

But what makes me wonder - I cannot find your photo on GE (and GM). Maybe I am at wrong altitude, but reason why your GE stats are zero can be consequence of this fact - your photo is located at populated  area (populated by photos)  and it's hard to find it. Quite a surprise - your photos is nice, have a lot of views, comments, likes and YS, so I expected it to be "promoted and visible" photo (perhaps a leading photo of a cluster) - but it is not.

Update:

I found (and clicked) your photo on GM (using tags search).

[RoarX]

I don't find it in GE either. Perhaps it is one of the photos that did not make it in time to be included in the last build of the photo layer. The photo has not been online for a month yet, so it may be present at the next build of the photo layer. Let's cross fingers.

[Pom']

many thanks Tomas for your concern and message ; the other day I had some difficulties myself to find this picture  on GE (and suspected at first that I wouldn't find it at all, since its GE view counter was still surprisingly at zero) but in the end I did find it.

This picture is not an exception, others of mine with about the same success at comments, pano views and rewards, still remain at zero on GE after a period of time that is usually more than enough to get a take off at GE.

regards, pom'

[Pom']

thank you too RoarX ; I hope you're right. As I answered to Tomas, I did actually find it on GE, and clicked it there, several times, last Monday morning.
These last months, until mid-April I'd say, GE counters were more reactive and (my) pictures used to get GE views (at least a few, at times a lot) even after a very few days. Maybe their system has been changed. now, let's wait and see :) Regards, pom'

[Tomas K☼h☼ut]

Well, the photo is quite fresh... I missed that fact. In that case simple rule applies: wait 2 months. This is longest time till photos really make it to GE (Pom, can you see your photo in GE now?). 

[Pom']

yes Tomas I saw it on GE two days ago, and clicked it several times, not being connected to Panoramio, to test if these clicks would appear on the stats. We'll know with next stats today evening. I was worrying because many of my pictures, these last months, had got GE stats only a few days (less than a week) after having been uploaded, especially the ones having success on Panoramio, like the one we're talking about, which is still at zero GE after about a month.

[~Marlene~]

This is the exact scenario I am seeing, Pom', although you do a better job of explaining it! :-)

[Pom']

dear Marlene thank you for telling your mind, I'm not the only one then :))

On Wednesday (very late) evening stats, the different clicks that I made on GE, not connected to Panoramio,  Monday (early) morning (more than 48 hours before, then), on this picture : http://www.panoramio.com/photo/89317215, have not been counted, the count is still at zero.

the clicks made Tuesday on GM by Tomas on the same picture have been counted.

now it's crystal clear to me that something is really wrong with GE stats, as I strongly suspected before, watching my own results these last weeks (please see my previous messages for more detailed explanations).

Now what I hope is that the problem will be communicated to the ones who can possibly fix it,

Regards, pom'

[ԁk‒cam]

In addition to Pom’s  and Marlene’s comments I have some observations:

Something has changed in GE view statistics. The reason for it can be many, and I do not want to make speculations.

On my own photos I have noticed a decline in the GE views over the last few months. Not testing any photo as Pom’, but looking at the overall statistics on my pictures. The GE views has gone down with 25% from January average to April average. It has during May stabilized on the April level. Because the number of views varies a lot from day to day it is difficult to say when it happened, but somehow beginning of March is my guess.

Google Map views (I have very few) have been stable over the January-April period.

External Widget API views have gone up with more than 30% over the same period.

My Panoramio.com views have gone down with 15% – probably because I have been less active in Panoramio.

Regards, Finn

[Draken]

Hi Finn

Some months ago (two, I think) the same query arose. The most logical explanation was we are experiencing the increase in the number of photos. The more photos, the more competition, the less views for each photo. The GE viewers remain pretty the same (stable figure) but there are more photos.

[~Marlene~]

I don't think that is the case with my Chicago pics, Draken. I'm one of very few people posting, considering the size of the city.

[Draken]

Marlene

It is not about a city, it is about the whole world.

Time is limited. If a GE viewer has a growing number of photos in the whole world to look at within a certain period of his time (let's say 30 minutes per day) he ends up looking at the same number of photos but all photos have more to photos to compete with!! That's to say that someone who was planning to see your photos or mine may end up not looking at them because he looked at other photos!!

What happens when you have three factors and two of them remain constant and the other grows?

GE viewers: constant

Time devoted: constant

Number of photos: growing

Answer: the views are now shared by more photos, so decreasing the views per photo (for every user, of course).

[~Marlene~]

I understand that, Draken, but I am talking about after they are approved. I do not have a lot of competition in Chicago for viewers and yet my views are down or non existent.

[Draken]

So, are you talking about Panoramio views or Google Earth views?

After they are approved and not yet in GE? Or after they are approved and already in GE? 

[Pom']

this might be right Draken, it looks logical.

still, the clicks that I did make on Monday on GE on the picture I was talking about in my former messages, still do not appear on Thursday's stats (after more than 72 hours then), and my test picture has still got a GE counter at zero.

this can not be explained by another reason than a failure in the counting system, can it ?

regards, pom'

[~Marlene~]

GE views... my PA views are good!

[Pom']

yes, the problem, which began at the end of April as far as I understood it, is that GE views are not counted for pictures newly loaded and of course accepted and actually present on GE, and clickable there, as I checked with my test.

[Adam Lasnik]

Hi everyone,

Our team will continue to investigate your concerns about view counts, specifically regarding view counts on Google Earth. 

[Draken]

Thank you Adam for your quick reaction to my request.

[Wim Constant]

I don't think, there's anything wrong with the view-counting of GE.

Last Sunday the stage of the "Giro d'Italia" finished in France, on the "Col du Galibier" and suddenly my photos made at that col (=mountain-pass) went from a few per day to a few hundred that weekend.

It all depends if there is something special to do on a particular day on a particular place.

I don't know Chicago and it does not interest me (for me a city is a city), but if anything special happened there, I would probably look at a few photos of the neighbourhood, where that happened, and with me thousands of other GE users.

[Galatas ©]

I expect my views to decrease over time unless the same people keep coming back to look at them time after time which is highly unlikely.
As Draken pointed out , the number of photos available on Google Earth increases rapidly , far quicker than new users discover Google Earth I imagine.

[Pom']

Wim thank you for your post into the topic I have opened and for giving your mind, still if you had read what I wrote you would have understood what's wrong, according to me, with the view counter in GE.
Draken many thanks for having transmitted my request
Adam many thanks for taking it in consideration.
for myself, I'll be going on making tests of GE views counting and if I notice some change in good or bad  I'll let know it in here.
all the best, pom'

[Pom']

a report on what I have noticed renewing today Friday morning my unconnected GE viewing tests, on these 3 pictures still surprisingly at zero at GE counter

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/89317215/stats
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/90111885/stats
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/90198832/stats


these pictures,  and others like them, given what used to happen to others of mine, having in the past the same kind of popularity in Panoramio, at the same stage of their Panoramio life, about a month or a little less, would "normally" already have got at least some GE views (and even many),  if things went like they used to go for pictures uploaded before the end of last April,

 when I find them on GE (rather easily)  and click on them from GE, from a computer not connected at all to Panoramio,  it opens a window about 10 cm per 10 cm ; at that point, it doesn't show a view on Pom's pictures 8 most recent views, (on another computer). What I'm asking, is, such an action is supposed to be counted as a GE view, or not ?

my next action has been clicking on that 10cm x 10cm image, and it took me to the Panoramio page where is this Pom's image, with its tags, groups and comments. At that point it appeared on Pom's pictures last 8 views, and what I'm asking is : is this view counted as a Panoramio view, or is it supposed to be counted as a GE view ?

my synthetic question, is what actually makes a GE view ?

regards, pom'

[hvbemmel]

first of all, I can not find any of the photos mentioned on GE yet, not on the coordinates and not in nearby clusters, that would explain the 0 count. Are you sure you see the photo(s) as photo icon?

clicking on an icon in GE, which is rather "blind", because you don´t know what you´re clicking will count as GE view. clicking on a photo to see it in the Panoramio environment will count as PA view. For me that is the reason I value the PA counts, as they show that people wanted to see my photo, The GE counts are much more clicked by coincidence even if I am looking specifically for your photo.  

[~Marlene~]

Herman... I found my photos easily in GE and I have zero views according to the stats. My problems seem to have started around the end of April. I usually get many views when new photos are added, but none recently on most of the newer ones appearing in GE.

[hvbemmel]

As Adam Lasnik, the teams program manager said, the team is investigating, I hope there will be a clear answer soon.

[Pom']

hvbemmel thank you for answering,

yes I'm sure that I did find these three pictures on GE
the one called "Saumur, Maine-et-Loire, France appears in a bunch of three times the same icon. I found it by sending my GE navigator to "Saumur", then zooming on the place I know it is, and it appears as second in popularity in its restricted area (the lawn at S-SE in front of the castle of Saumur), between the castle's car park and an alley called "Montée du Petit Genève", just behind another one called "Château de Saumur la nuit" by apjjoly

regards, pom'

[hvbemmel]

that will be part of the problem then. I entered the coordinates (copy paste) and can not find this photo. So I´m explicitly looking for your photo and you can rest assured that I know how to find photos by now ;-). There is a cluster almost spot on, but your photo is not in it. I know there are discrepancies in GE between certain parts of the world; I don´t know if this has influence on PA photos (I can´t imagine).

So if someone is really looking for this photo and can not find it, how could there be random views? I really hope they come up with something. 

[Pom']

dear Herman thank you for having spent time on this research, and for letting know the result

 I am amazed that this picture can be (easily) found by my GE version 7.0.2 from France, and not  by yours (and others users before you said the same thing).

as someone could think that I'm telling stories just to get some attention, here are screen-shots of the picture we're talking about being present on GE :
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/90760803
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/90760799
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/90760797
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/90760796

kind regards, pom'
 

[Tomas K☼h☼ut]

BINGO!

Pom, by looking at your screenshots, I see you've found your photo on GE using your personal (or some other) KML file. But photos presented by KML files are not exactly same as general GE views from "public" small square green/blue icons (and probably not counted as GE views, more likely counted as API, less likely as Panoramio views).

So I guess your photo is really not visible in GE (yet) and cannot receive any GE views.

Check your GE explorer-like left pane and uncheck items in "My Places" and "Temporary Places" folder. Will you see your photo in GE then?

[hvbemmel]

I always assume that the problem a user presents is true, so I do believe you, no doubt about that

I think the problem is clear now.

The little photos you see are coming from the KML file you made by clicking "your photos in GE". This is a file on your computer, or any other computer this file has been made on. that shows the photos from Panoramio that are in this KML file; this KML file refreshes itself.

The icons other people see on GE are a little square representing one photo or a little square looking like a pile of photos, representing a cluster. 

 

[Wim Constant]

Op vrijdag 24 mei 2013 07:14:30 UTC+2 schreef Pom' het volgende:

I have read what you wrote !!!

You wrote: "It's still at zero. something must be wrong."

I wrote: "I don't think, there's anything wrong with the view-counting of GE" and I proved my point!

[Draken]

This http://www.panoramio.com/photo/89317215/stats  47° 15' 22.47" N  0° 4' 15.49" W  is not visible yet (no surprise since it was uploaded 25th April). You are using a KML file on your computer. 

I guess it is the same with all the photos pom is presenting as evidence. 

I wonder whether it is the same with Marlene's photos...

NB: Seasoned users are aware of how the KML files work and the information is available since the creation of Panoramio.

[Pom']

well then it almost all comes  clear, thank you all for your help.

 Draken I must not be a seasoned user myself at all, I had no idea of what a KML could be, I didn't even know about their existence. Someday I must have clicked on a wrong button in GE, and I have no memory of it.
Sorry for not being a geek knowing all these things, I'm only a Panoramio contributor, trying to build there the richest gallery I can, possibly with a lot of views, which are my rewards, for offering in free share my artistic work and part of my time. When views stats show a dramatic fall like it happened since last April on GE counters, you might understand that I don't feel good about it.

 Actually I very seldom use GE, only Pano, and if I went there it's because the GE stats suddenly changed last April (and this part of the problem is not clear yet).
Until last April, my pictures did get GE views after a very few days (a week or so at most), and the popular ones in PÄ did get many of them.

my best guess is that they changed their system to a less reactive one ; people taking care of these system must have the answer.

regards, pom'

[Draken]

It is not a matter of being a geek but knowing how Panoramio works!! Come on!! 

In order to know how it works you want to read the Help File and the FAQ in this forum.  I am not a geek myself at all. I read the information available. That's all.

So, since you downloaded the KML file you have always previewed the photos:

http://www.panoramio.com/help/photos_google_earth#preview_ge

How to preview your photo in Google Earth

To preview your photo in Google Earth:

1. View the photo in Panoramio, and make sure that it has already been mapped. The photo must be mapped before you can preview it in Google Earth.
2. Above the photo, click See in Google Earth. You are then asked to download or open a file.
3. Download or open the file. Google Earth opens.
   In the left Places panel, under Temporary Places, you can see a section for your photos. For example, if your Panoramio username is fotonina, you'll see a section called fotonina's photos.
4. In the Search panel, search for the place where you mapped a photo. You'll see your photo as a thumbnail, even when other photos are just small icons.

You can preview a photo in Google Earth. When you preview the photo in Google Earth, you see the latest Panoramio photos, including those that have not yet been transferred to Google Earth.

There's no way to preview a photo in Google Maps.

Do you still think someone has to be a geek to follow the above mentioned instructions to preview a photo? Be honest.

What's more, see the following:

2. Photos in Google Earth.
2.1. Why can’t I see my photos in Google Earth?
Please note that Google Earth and Google Maps are not the same. Please read question 2.3 if you don’t find your photos in Google Maps. Uploading photos to Panoramio does not mean that they automatically appear on Google Earth.
First, make sure that the photo is mapped. Then, you must wait for the photo to get reviewed. If the photo is approved for Google Earth, the waiting game starts. Read on for more information about the review process.
All photos uploaded to Panoramio are reviewed by a group of hard working individuals we simply know as reviewers. Mapped photos which are found to be good according to the selection guidelines are selected for Google Earth. The time it takes to select the photos varies since a batch of photos is broken up and distributed to different reviewers. If you for example upload ten photos, these may be reviewed by several reviewers at different times. The photos that are approved will receive a blue compass symbol.
Then, the selected photos are forwarded to Google Earth for final integration into the Panoramio photo layer. This may take some time. Sometimes photos can be put in place days after they were selected, but within two months time is considered normal. This process is not consecutive; the photos which are approved first may show up in Google Earth last, and vice versa. Please note the reviewers are not the same as the forum moderators. As far as we know, the reviewers have never entered the forum, so nobody in the forum knows who they are.

If you want to see your photos in Google Earth almost immediately (mostly within hours), you can make use of KML files available from Panoramio. Click on the link “In Google Earth (kml)” next to your username in the gallery page. Download the KML file and open it in Google Earth. Please note that only you can see the photos this way. Everybody else must wait till your photos are approved and in place in Google Earth before they can see them. Of course, you can send the KML file in a mail to a friend if they can’t wait.

 

[Tomas K☼h☼ut]

Well, I have to admit KML files are less transparent part of Panoramio. And although they are described well in FAQ and Help, there are many users not aware of their existence (and what's behind the scene).

Just small addition to info in FAQ: there not only personal KML files.

E.g. in Panoramio map view you can see link at left bottom:

Popular photos in Google Earth

By clicking this link you'll get presentation of popular photos in KML style to GE (into folder "temporary places"). You can get more types of presentation in Panoramio map view (e.g. KML file for each user, each group, tag search and so on).

When you close GE, you are asked to purge content of GE folder "temporary places". If your answer is "save it", then content from "temporary places" is moved to "My places" and becomes persistent.

I would call it "advanced user feature", but definitely not "for geeks". ;-)

[Pom']

thank you again Draken.

ok I put back "geek", but still, not all users come often to this forum, for myself I only  get to it when I meet a problem with my daily Panoramio uses that I can't solve by myself. The same way for my car : I can drive it but I don't know how the engine works, and I'd say, I don't  really care, because mechanics are not my hobby, of course until the day it doesn't work well any longer, and then I have no other choice than going to the garage  :)
And if at the garage the car fixer  tells me "dude you should know because its written in the mechanics book which everyone should have read and know", what can I say ?
 well, I'm just an humble driver. at Panoramio, as said before, I'm just a contributor in pictures, and I spend more time at trying to shoot and edit good ones than at reading FAQs or crawling into forum jungles.

anyway thank you for having provided the info on KML, which obviously I had never read before ; I'll try to understand and keep it somewhere in my mind.

regards, pom'

[Draken]

Sorry Tomas but I disagree.

The information about KML is not hidden and it has the same importance as any information either in the Help File or the FAQ. Pom is not a newbie and he knows he should read the info available. If users are not aware of available info it is their fault for not reading!!

I care enough about issues raised by users in the forum to the point of drawing the attention of the Team to the threads but, on the other hand,  users need to read.

[Pom']

Tomas, thank you for your understanding :)
Draken, I'll make some tries with some other old PA users I know to check out if I'm the only one not to know about KLM or not !

regards, pom'

[Draken]

Marlene

Is this http://www.panoramio.com/photo/89493654 one of the photos you are talking about?

Coordinates: 41° 53' 44.40" N  87° 37' 31.87" W

Uploaded: April 29th

Well, I don't see it in Google Earth.  Are you sure you are not using a KML file yourself? Try what Tomas advised: Have a look at your GE explorer-like left pane (menu) and uncheck items in "My Places" and  the "Temporary Places" folder. Do you see your photo in GE now?

[papkassen]

To help in the topic, I have not observed any uploads to GE since the 13. april, my pics from 20. april and till now are not visible on GE, and it is normal compared with "the old days".

[~Marlene~]

I can't even get into GE today, Draken. For some reason, it crashes every time I try to use it! 

[Draken]

Which is your GE version?  Perhaps you need an update.

[~Marlene~]

I don't think I need an update, Draken. I have the Mac10.6 (or higher) version and Firefox updates automatically. I think I'm just having a computer problem!

[Draken]

I am talking about the GE version, not your OS or your browser version.

My GE version is 7.0.3.8542

My OS X is 10.8.3

My Safari is 6.0.4 (8536.29.13)

My Firefox 21.0

[~Marlene~]

It's 7.1.1.1580

[Draken]

In case someone needs it.

Official Google Earth Help Forum

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!forum/earth

[RoarX]

Marlene, try to reboot your computer, some important files may not have been properly loaded upon system start up. If it doesn't help, look here: http://support.google.com/earth/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=176181

[~Marlene~]

Thanks, Draken... I got in okay, but could not find the photos I was looking for, even ones I know we're there before! I think it may be best to just wait and see what happens... time may be the best healer!

[Pom']

to prove what I said before about getting GE views as soon as loading pictures, until late April, here http://www.panoramio.com/photo/89166531/stats are the stats of a picture loaded the 22th of April, and getting 11 GE views on April the 23th, 24 and 25, and then nothing, zero,  until today. and this happened to many other pictures of mine (sudden stop of GE views for my most recent pictures having already received GE views, or no GE views at all for  pictures loaded after the end of April). And the ones with many YS likes etc had much more GE views than 11 in 3 days.

turning to the main reason why I opened this discussion, which had not to see with KML files, but about this sudden crash into GE views, I still think that something went wrong about GE views from the 26th April on, the question is still opened : what did they actually change on this date, and was it a good thing to change it ? (I'd tend to say no)

regards, pom'

[~Marlene~]

I don't understand all the technical points made here, but I do concur with Pom' that something changed on or about April 25th. It was sudden & noticeable!

[Draken]

pom'

Are you aware of the temporary layer in which photos are placed on entering Google Earth? Don't you think that what it could have happened to your photo is described in the 2.9. of the FAQ?

2.9. I’ve seen my photo in Google Earth, but now it’s gone. Why is that?
When photos are entering the Google Earth layer, they do so in a temporary layer which is visible at high altitude. These photos will later be placed in a permanent layer which it takes about three days to build. During those days photos are still being added to the temporary layer. The photos added during those days will not be part of the newly built permanent layer. When the permanent layer goes live, the old temporary layer is replaced with a new one and the photos added during the three day period will not be seen until they are included with the next permanent layer.
So basically, you’ve had some bad luck and the photo will reappear after a month or so.

[♠ c0l0gne1 ♣]

This is exactly what I have been thinking. Only this time the gap between the temporary and the permanent layer is rather longer than 3 days. Since the end of april none of my photos have appeared in in the temporary layer. I expect they will eventually turn up on the permanent layer.

[Pom']

well yes it might be the temporary layer then.

still, before the sudden change that I (and some others) have noticed at the end of April, I didn't have to wonder about layers or special files or FAQs or forums, since things were going well, pictures were having a life on GE as soon as loaded, and not for a little while, it used to last once it had begun ; after a while the GE visits just used to become more important.

having zero GE views on pictures with more than 50 or 100 YS, more than 100 likes and hundreds of comments, after something like a month of life on PA, is something that did not happen to my pictures before the end of April, not even one single time, I would have noticed, and that systematically happens to them since then. 

once again, I think that something went wrong at the end of April, and that, if possible, it should be fixed.

regards, pom'

[Draken]

With all due respect, please read the FAQ (all of them) and the Help File (all of it).  The reading saves users and moderators alike a lot of time and effort. Thanks

Regarding the apparent malfunction of the GE counts since the end of April let's wait until Adam Lasnik from the Team posts here again, shall we? Thanks

[Pom']

we shall, Draken. sincere thanks for your appreciated efforts anyway.

[Draken]

And they lived happily ever after...

;–)

[df3vi]

Photos that I had uploaded in the begin of April made it to the temporary layer and got some GE-views after a week or two.
Photos that I had uploaded in the begin of May still have not appeared on that temporary layer and have all zero GE views.

[~Marlene~]

Out of curiosity, I looked at some friend's stats for the period of time we are talking about and during the days I viewed after April 20th, the photos I saw had zero views after April 25th... the same date as my pics. Also, I forgot to mention that when I found my newer pics on GE, they were buried under very old ones. I thought the newer ones were on top?

[Pom']

in order to try to help these who are working on this question, I'd add that luckily enough, the pictures already having a life on GE for a long time before April 25th went on their GE life normally, without the GE sudden crash or GE unusual absence of take off, which touched (my) April and May pictures.

one of the last examples of a picture having a fast take off at GE, and keeping then a normal success there, might be this one http://www.panoramio.com/photo/88572222/stats : uploaded in early April, it became popular at GE at mid April, a couple of weeks after  having been loaded to Pa. and went on this way on GE untill today ; this is typical of what used to happen systematically to my most successful Pa. pictures, before this change we're talking about.

[piardoch]

Pom', toutes mes photos depuis le 25/4 ne sont pas comptabilisées sur GE. Juste quelques unes dès leur apparition comptabilisées 1 ou 2 fois; Depuis plus rien. Depuis plus de 15 jours, les photos enregistrées n'ont eu aucune vue sur GE alors que le compteur "panoramio" est bon. donc je ne suis pas le seul à voir ce défaut. Merci

[hvbemmel]

Please use English in this forum. I speak French, but not everybody does, so if you want to have a conversation in French, please use the French forum.

It´s clear there have been some changes in the way our photos are displayed and as Adam said, they are looking in to this. The same problem will occur when the new Google maps will be used by everybody as the way of showing photos is totally different there.

So we can go on reporting that the photos are not visible (yet), but that doesn´t bring anything. The issue is noted by the team, the issue will be addressed by the team, for now that will remain the answer.

[~Marlene~]

You are quite correct, Pom'! One photo I looked at had almost 200 view in the two days previous, then zero views from April 25th and thereafter

[~Marlene~]

Not to push, but I wondered if this mystery is any closer to being solved. I still have zero GE views on every photo uploaded since April 16th. On that day I uploaded 3 photos at the same time. The first 2 have received GE views, the third has none. Evidently, something changed at that exact moment to cause this. I have also noticed, however, a great increase in API views!

[Pom']

not to push either, but I've noticed the same thing, asked for some info quite a long time ago, and so far no relevant answer came back.
my late April pictures, as successful at Panoramio as they can be, and yes Marlene, maybe more than before at API,  still have zero GE views after almost two months, and as I said already in here, this never used to happen before.
all of this, what's going on at GE, and the lack of answer from Panoramio Team about it, even though they said they would check it out, is a bit disappointing and rather demotivating.
regards, pom'

[hvbemmel]

please read my answer in this thread

[Pom']

what I fear is that GE will need, and welcome, less and less Panoramio pictures since they cover more and more with their own street view system. maybe it has to see with what's going on.

[Tomas K☼h☼ut]

Pom, last statement (directly from Panoramio team, made at autumn 2012) is: we want more photos.

[Tomas K☼h☼ut]

Not to push, but I wondered if this mystery is any closer to being solved. I still have zero GE views on every photo uploaded since April 16th. 

Marlene, maybe I am missing something...

But photos uploaded after 16th April are not visible on GE, is it true?

How they can receive views on GE, when they are invisible?

[~Marlene~]

If you read my prior comments, Tomas, you will understand what I am saying. Obviously, what you say is true! As I said before, many photos that are visible abruptly stopped receiving views on April 25th, even though they had many views up to that date. Seems very odd to me. I can't point them out to you since the stats only go back 30 days.

[Draken]

[Speculation mode on] Marlene's photos were visible on the temporary layer but never made it to the permanent layer [Speculation mode off].  I think I had already said this before. 

[~Marlene~]

And why would they not make it to the permanent layer, Draken?

[Draken]

A bug?

Well, If so Adam Lasnik said: "Our team will continue to investigate your concerns about view counts, specifically regarding view counts on Google Earth."

If I am correct, what the Team should be investigating is why some photos haven't made it to the permanent layer. 

[Draken]

Please be aware your concerns seem to be related to the thread whose title is "Timing issues with pictures appearing in GE"

There Herman wrote:

Yes there is a backlog.

Yes, this is exceptional.

Yes, the Team has been informed, multiple times. last time on June 3rd.

Yes, the Team have asked the GE Team more than once. Last time on June 3rd. by my knowledge

No, There is no answer yet that we know of.

No, we cannot do anything in this forum other then waiting for an answer or regularly ask the Team for an update on things.

And Adam Lasnik added:

Hey everyone,

I'm still researching Google Earth-related stuff on my end here.  [...]

I expect to have more info re: your concerns about Panoramio photo acceptance on Google Earth soon.