so I got on Denon SC6000s a couple of days ago and, besides Engine, also need to use Serato and Rekordbox. So the last couple of days I was trying to figure out a good workflow to sync between DJ software and library management. Now, I already realise that this will be tedious and probably cause a lot of headaches in the future.
Therefore, I am now considering to hop on Lexicon. On paper, the software looks really cool and what I read so far from users also sounds promising. I just wanted to hear again from Denon/Engine users how it works for you so far, are you happy, are there still any major problems with Engine (and Serato) integration?
I also have a more specific concern. I understand that you can use Lexicon to centrally manage your library and from there sync to the various platforms. But what about making changes within Engine OS on, say, the SC6000 (e.g. setting cue points and loops, creating new playlists, shifting tracks around etc.). Will I be able to effortlessly sync all these changes made on the fly back to the main lexicon library and then from there to other DJ software?
I use it to sync serato to engine. When it works, its sweet but ive been burned hard by the software a few times. Recently, It erased all my serato cuepoints. Turns out, it was a bug when using the tool to automatically fill in the track year. It took me weeks to re-do my cuepoints. Lexicons cue point generator is seeet in theory, but its not even close to being as accurate as setting cues manually. Even with backups, i didnt see this issue until after i backed up the back ups, as i download and organize new music regularly. Now i check the forum for people reporting bugs before i use it.
Yeah, what a nightmare it was! Sad for someting thats $18 a month. You cant sync from the player to lexicon to my knowledge. Its a big workflow. Ut after you get the hang of it, its mostly letting the computer do its thing. Im not syncing from the player. I just try to remember tracks that need moved or edited and then do it after. I take pictures with my phone to jog my memory. I put in a feature request for a screen shot ability in the players so we can more easily remember tracks via screen shot.
You cant sync from the player to lexicon to my knowledge. Its a big workflow. Ut after you get the hang of it, its mostly letting the computer do its thing. Im not syncing from the player. I just try to remember tracks that need moved or edited and then do it after.
Ive actually never tried it. I use serato and i dont want to use lexicon as my central app. Especially with how problematic its been. I now have a new bug request in with Lexicon. All the. Hanges i make, i want to make in serato first.
Using the cue point generator, you will be able to let rekordcloud add cue points to your tracks automatically. Through machine learning it can accurately detect drops, breakdowns and the fade-out of the track. You can tell rekordcloud exactly where you want your cue points, how to name them and what color they should be.
For example, the genres Techno, House, Drum & Bass have a high success rate in the cue point generator. On the other hand, genres like Reggae or Dancehall are less accurate and may have trouble detecting the drop.
You must analyze your tracks with Traktor, Rekordbox, VirtualDJ, Serato or Engine Prime before generating cue points. If the analyzed BPM is not correct (for example, Rekordbox sometimes sets tracks to 87 BPM instead of 174 BPM) then that could negatively affect drop detection.
The way to prevent this is by going through your analyzed tracks manually before generating cue points and checking the grid quickly. You can also choose to analyze your tracks with Traktor, then generate cue points and import in Rekordbox. Traktor is far better at analyzing than Rekordbox (you can even use the free demo version of Traktor for this!).
Tracks must have a cuepoint on the first downbeat. Rekordbox can automatically add this cuepoint during analysis. Enable this option in File -> Preferences -> Analysis -> Set Memory Cue at the first beat of track when analyzing
Rekordbox (Rekordbox 5 only) has to export beatmarkers. Under File -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Export BeatGrid information make sure it is set to BPM change points. This is not needed for Rekordbox 6.
Analyzing your tracks is done through the Companion App, you need to install it. You also need internet during the analysis because the Companion App sends the analysis results to rekordcloud to be processed.
Track analysis is done with advanced machine learning techniques for the best possible accuracy. The algorithm is optimized for all music and not one specific genre or type. This means sometimes results may be off by a bit or a drop can't be found.
You can turn this off if you want. For most electronic music you should leave it enabled. For instrumental music (think rock, jazz, soul, etc) it makes sense to turn it off. When disabled, rekordcloud will set cue points whenever the music has a "change point", a significant change in the type of music.
Rekordcloud tries to find the best fade-out moment in your tracks. Only lower frequencies (bass) are considered here which means that the fade-out will be set before quiet outro's. You probably want to mix your next track before you reach that part.
If the "sync to beatgrid" option is enabled, the fade-out cue will also be set on 16 beats of the beatgrid. On some tracks this means the fade-out cue is not exactly at the very last beat, but that's because the track's beat count was not a multiple of 16.
Rekordcloud detects cue points at certain timestamps, but as a DJ you usually want these points to be exactly aligned with the beatgrid. This should always be enabled for electronic music. For instrumental music you can turn it off, but it might make mixing a bit harder since cue points can be set anywhere on your beatgrid.
Analyzing your tracks is very CPU intensive. By default it will analyze your tracks so you can still use your computer properly. You can turn on "High performance mode" to analyze your tracks significantly faster but it will make your computer very slow to use during the analysis. Definitely don't do this during a live performance!
You can create your own cue point template within the Companion App. For example, you could say you want a cue point 64 beats before the drop. If rekordcloud detects a drop, a cue point will be added exactly 64 beats before it.
Rekordcloud will save the cue points in the order as they are in your template. With the handle on the left, you can drag cue points. You can disable cue points by unchecking them. You can still create a cue point that relies on the drop, even if the drop is disabled.
You might see drops or breakdowns that are 1 or 2 bars off from the correct position. This happens when the producer of a track adds 1, 2 or 3 extra bars somewhere in the track, usually during/after the breakdown. Rekordcloud syncs cue points to the beatgrid based on 4 bars, since almost all electronic music works like that.You have to fix this manually, rekordcloud can't detect if this is happening in a track.
If the first breakdown is not found, then a second drop or second breakdown will also not be found. In some tracks the breakdown is very short so rekordcloud cannot easily detect it. By default, rekordcloud assumes breakdowns are 64 beats or longer. You can change this to be any number you want. For some genres it makes sense to lower this number to 32.With a lower minimum beat length for the first breakdown, rekordcloud may automatically find the second drop and second breakdown.
is there any way to export my cue points from djuced and import them into serato? i have a number of songs that ive set hot cues on in djuced that i would like to use in serato, but when i load them in serato the hot cues arent there. as much as i love djuced, i want to start to stream and i find its too resource intensive and laggy when i run obs. serato doesnt seem to cause the same issues
1) If you find you have more CPU time on Serato than on Djuced, then in Djuced > Settings > Audio
- make sure your audio interface in Djuced is ""DJControl Inpulse 500 ASIO(ASIO)": if you use the sound device "Speakers (Hercules DJControl Inpulse 500) (WASAPI)", it takes more CPU than the ASIO sound device "DJControl Inpulse 500 ASIO(ASIO)".
- do not enable the option "Send master to computer speakers" as it is CPU hungry.
In macOS, then there is no ASIO or WASAPI which are only in Windows (that is why I ask to complete the computer configuration in the user profile before a technical question, most tech issues are computer related: knowing the computer is needed). Before technical questions, one should complete the technical profile on
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