A Pandoc logo should look much more simple than this graphic, while expressing a similar amount of functionality:
without at the same time conveying a feeling “But this is an utterly impractical and un-handy tool!”.
In other words: it should square the circle :-)
Just play around with the characters. Make it simple. there are plenty of possibilities.
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> How about a carefully-coloured (perhaps solarized?) version of this
> unicode mock-up
Pandoc have an awesome name for what it does, maybe the logo should use
∪ or ∀ to recall the "pan".
To sum up, currently there are ideas below:- Based on the text "Pandoc"- Need to consider about font designing- Something generated by Pandoc itself- Inspired by the "Input-Output Graph" image- unicode mock-up: ┋❵⇔❴┋ , ┋❵❴┋- Stefan's logo idea- Marc's idea∀┋❵❴┋∆PαndocIf you come up with another idea, please share it.Otherwise let's vote one of them.
Let's discuss to make Pandoc logo.
Sorry, I unintentionally created a new thread on a similar topic: pandoc logo - Google Groups. Any further discussion should goes here.
Over there I draft a design of pandoc logo by playing on the symmetry between
d. One expression of that idea is an axe looks like
P and the same thing rotated looks like
d. The reason an axe is used is because this kind of echo pandoc being like a Swiss army knife, where an axe is like that on steroid. A proper design of that axe should resemble the letter
Another way the
pd trick would work is to partially overlap the circle while using negative space.
If anyone think that’s a good idea, I could create a better draft of the idea.
As to where the logo is needed:
One consideration on designing the logo might follow the
\LaTeX example which is text only, because pandoc is primarily for processing texts. To push this idea further, we might even be constructing this logo by math so that together with a macro, using something like
\pandoc in markdown will output a proper pandoc “logo” in any output formats.
Another point is to make sure the logo looks great both when it is very tiny (16x16??) and very big.
I think rather than designing a type, which requires a lot of skills, may be borrowing an existing open source font is better. However, since both "letters" are of different languages, probably only math font has both, which might be a good idea too, given the strong Mathematical heritage (logics is usually co-taught between math and phil dept; then Haskell is the "most Mathematical programming language"; then texmath; then the close relation between pandoc and LaTeX, which is from TeX, which is invented by a math prof). It might be a lot of digression, but many other "alternatives of pandoc" treated math as an afterthought, claiming they support LaTeX but actually means MathJax, etc.
One challenge is to find one that the 2 diagonals join nicely (same angle).
Another "funny" idea is to choose some ancient looking character, looks like those from papyrus. It is kind of playful to looks so ancient yet a so modern tool.
Since the Etymology of pandoc is mixed, and the fact that is not really of any Etymological origin, I think the is ok as long as it kind of convey the meaning. The thing gives me a picture of this:
By the way, looking at the PDF, it seems it is not difficult to find one that both and are at the same angle.
But then on 2nd thought, and has very simple strokes, so make be using shape not type is better.
I am on the go and can't render the markdown though...
It is a great story! I’ve never heard of that.
It sparks an idea like (The of the should be under it. Markdown-here don’t support Display equation so it doesn’t looks right. Not too serious though).
And this is the previous concept I was talking about:
Do you mean it in a good way or bad way? Geeky might actually describe the pandoc community very well.
And it’s called Turned A, which is just a san-serif, unside-down A: . And I think secondary school taught this to every kid?? (Hong Kong’s secondary school math was taught much more advanced than other “country” though. I quoted it since HK is not a country. But the new government changed our syllabus so HK kids no longer have that advantage. I think it is a political move. So sad…)
Another idea is to base the logo on a well-estabished one, see below.
I think colors should be added, then the shape changed in a way looks more like
Pd. The shape emphasize a duality, just like in pandoc, for any 2 given formats, you (usually) can go back and forth between them (another way of saying )
One possible variation of the shape is the outer border becomes a square, giving a much more distinct yet familiar look.
oops, emails has problems with svg. Click this link if the previous one doesn’t work: File:Yin yang.svg - Wikimedia Commons
Sorry! This one should work now!
Base on @jgm’s design on pandoc logo - Google Groups, see below.
Just a concept though. I simplified the idea since I can’t think of a nice way to have 2 documents there (it will becomes too rectangular). If we really want to put the documents there, they may be added at the tip of the arrows?
I also tried drawing it not in straight lines but curves. I wanted to make it looks like a smily face, but so far my attempt has been a creepy face…
I played with the idea using Π and Δ. For example, a crossover with Sergio’s reference to https://cdn3.iconfinder.com/data/icons/text-editor-1/24/Translate-512.png
But then I can’t help but be reminded of Fraternities and sororities, when they are in upper case.
Another factor to consider: if we want the logo to reflects pandoc as a document converter, how to capture the difference between pandoc and any other document converter?
One idea doing this is
Again, it is just a concept. The rectangle can have some “contents”, the circle in the center can be anything. For example, I’m thinking about
After reading through the latest messages, I realized that my last idea
was not particularly squarish, so here's another attempt. The idea was
that the overlapping documents already form the general shapes of the P
and D. I'm not sure how well that comes across. Maybe the "holes" could be turned into arrowheads or something… I've kind of run out of steam on this one.
After reading through the latest messages, I realized that my last idea was not particularly squarish, so here's another attempt. The idea was that the overlapping documents already form the general shapes of the P and D. I'm not sure how well that comes across. Maybe the "holes" could be turned into arrowheads or something… I've kind of run out of steam on this one.
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I'm thinking the empty spaces the the top right and bottom left corners might be visually unbalanced. To fill the space we could add 2 arrows there like one of the logo examples above. But, I think it will clutter your design. Another idea is to shrink the D a bit to be "eaten" by the lower right empty space of the P.
And then I'm not sure using a capital D might cause a problem: it has been emphasized PanDoc is wrong. But because it is a logo, probably more freedom should be granted. The idea to embed a document in the shape of P and D seems too good to be passed.
What's the meaning of the curves on the outer left and right border?
I'm thinking the empty spaces the the top right and bottom left corners might be visually unbalanced. To fill the space we could add 2 arrows there like one of the logo examples above. But, I think it will clutter your design.