tires for a panasonic team trial bicycle...

[coach]

i have a panasonic team time trial bike and the tires are flat and the
local bike guy said that he cant find any that size.... anybody have
any ideas?
thanks
B

[Darin Nederhoff]

I assume you're referring to the front wheel? Tubulars?

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[Zac Copeland]

Well if its 24" tubular I have racing only tires that are Tubular.


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[Darin Nederhoff]

I think the Panasonic catalog stated (in '88) that it was a 26" front
wheel. In '87 it said nothing about size other than designating it as
"kiddy" size.

[Zac Copeland]

Darin,
remember that TT bike on Ebay for a long time for like $1750, and of course didn't sell? It was up for months. Thought it had a 24/27. It was a neat funny bike, no longer legal for racing though.
Z

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[Darin Nederhoff]

Yes, I believe I do. One of the members on here owns an '87 Team Time
Trial model than he scored on eBay for a ridiculously low price. I'll
see if I can ping him for details on his front tire size. Paging Dave
Hickey, please pick up a blue courtesy phone. ;-)

[Raymond See]

i used to own a colnago funny bike small wheel upfront...late 80s
early90s.

i sold it to fellow collector.

front wheel size...650C tubulars..rear wheel 700c you wont find these
front tires in the local bike shop...TRIATHLON bike shop probably YES.

the brand on my ex bike..CONTINENTAL SPRINTER 650c.

i hope this helps.

ray
philippines

On Jun 30, 12:43 am, Darin Nederhoff <scar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, I believe I do. One of the members on here owns an '87 Team Time
> Trial model than he scored on eBay for a ridiculously low price. I'll
> see if I can ping him for details on his front tire size. Paging Dave
> Hickey, please pick up a blue courtesy phone. ;-)
>

[Zac Copeland]

http://picasaweb.google.com/scarsgo/1987PanasonicBicyclesCatalog?feat=flashslideshow#5238287391950623970

kiddie = 24inch.  Can tell from looking and riding enough of them.

Heres some thoughts from a guy who use to ride these types.

There are 2 main types of funny bikes. one is the 24/27 inch wheel version, and then the more common later size of 26/27 (slightly smaller front).

This configuration of bicycle was a time trial specialty bike and at the time this was hot stuff. These small front (or both) wheeled bicycles were called "funny bikes" because evidently they use to laugh at these (at first) saying, "look at the funny bikes". 

Small front wheels proved themselves and when combined with a disc up front it was particularly effective. The 80's were certainly wild times of bicycles and also the best of times.

Now dissimilar wheels are illegal for racing, but these bikes could go like the wind. My friend had one of these, told me about it, and he said that although it looked goofy as heck he really was impressed with the bicycle- No surprise. This guy is a frame builder also, so not a random review. Typically these bikes were very hard to stand up and pedal hard on, but some had the angles right (long and relaxed angles required).

Interesting things to me are the Sante group (Smurf gruppo) and the nitto bars. You can see they still didn't quite understand aerodynamics with these bars and the whole concept of reduced frontal area totally, but its still an improvement and an important part of racing bicycle history.




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[fowle...@comcast.net]

First of all,  Thanks for all the input...... I am in a little over my head here..... I swim and run and was looking to start riding.... I have no idea now which way to go from here....
Confused in Alabama..
Thanks  guys... :-}

[Zac Copeland]

Well if that bicycle in the link I attached is yours, then you would have a great Tri Bike.

You need to determine what exact bicycle you have, then you can get parts and we can help between the group i am sure in where. Pictures are best and then you can know what you need to get and where.

 Panaracer Tires is Panasonic by the way, and so some Panaracer tires are always the smart bet. They still make 24" tires if this is your machine, and they would work perfectly.

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[Darin Nederhoff]

I'd suggest contacting Harris Cyclery. They can probably get you the proper tires. 

What year is your Team Time Trial?  If you don't know, send me a photo at edi...@panasonicbikemuseum.info and I can help you out. 

Cheers,

Darin Nederhoff

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[Zac Copeland]

First step- Helmet, shoes, safe bicycle, bike shorts.
Second step- smooth pedal action- many times

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hi z,how you???are you thinkin panaracer still panasonic owned tire company?????????????

[Zac Copeland]

oh for sure. Yes Panni is National. "National Tire Company". Panaracer Pasela I buy few months back doesn't say Panaracer, says "Panasonic Pasela" on side.

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[fowle...@comcast.net]

 Zac,  thanks again.. i am not sure how to tell them what i need.... i think one of the tires is a 24 inch but not sure about other size and i could not find them  (national tire company)...  when i googled them.... do you have a number?
Thanks again,  i am such a noobie...
Brett

[Zac Copeland]

you really need to put up good pictures. '

There are different size wheels on some bikes of old. The rear wheels were Standard sized but can be one of 2 sizes (700c or 27) its  very easy to get tires for the rear no matter
what it is.
But..
It is either a Glued on Tire- called a Tubular, or it is a Clincher which is what is most common.

If your rear tire looks like a tube is visible inside, and has bead on the tire portion which engages the rims inside edge- then you have a Clincher, which is most common.
If your tire can be pushed to the side and you see what looks like dry adhesive, or any kind of dry glue film that holds the tire to the rim, you have a tubular- which I suspect you do.

so you determine :
1. Do you have Clinchers or Tubulars?
2. What size they are?

As Darin said, Sheldon Brown Bicycle Site has all this information. If you have clinchers, you have a 700 x 23c tire rear, which is the most common made.
If you have tubulars, your rear is 27", which is the most common size made. You can get these at bicycle shops, or online at such places as Bike Tires Direct, or Ebay.
Panaracer makes all sizes of Tubulars, and a couple sizes of Clinchers which are on ebay.

Here are pictures of 3 sizes of front wheels. The 2 smaller tires  (brown tire and yellow tire) are what yours will be. I have a 24" in the photo, a 26" in the photo and a 27" in the photo. 27 inch is the most common, then the 26 inch tire (also called 650), and then the fairly rare 24", which I think yours is. All 3 of these tires are tubular/glue on, and you can see no tube because it is sewn up inside.

The other picture is of a Clincher Rear Tire. Clinchers are not a complete circle in diameter as you can see, and a tube goes inside. Your rear wheel is either 700c x 23c or like this size shown- 27 x 1. So that means you need to know if your rear Starts with "700" or 27.

After you determine the size of your front wheel, and if it is a tubular, "Panaracer (sells a)} Tubular 24inch Tire" and you can find it on ebay. It is called the Rapide.
There is also a tire in larger sizes called the "Panaracer Practice Tubular Tire" and this is a good rear for your bike. You will need tire glue and unless you are fairly
mechanically oriented, have a bike shop do the job.

So you need to do your homework, send a picture if you can, and you might need to take your bike to a bike shop to get this sorted. Don't be intimidated, its just like cars- What size rim? What type of use? And What brand?

Zac

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