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So i am a 15 year old boy and have always been intrigued on the topic of greek mythology i feel i could learn a lot from it if i looked into it and read it more but i dont really know where to start i have so much spare time now a days and i am not really doing anything good with my life so I decided to pick up reading and wanted to start with greek mythology since i have been interested in it for a while now anyways as i was saying i dont really know where to start all i know is i love that god type of stuff in greek mythology but also really like the stuff with deeper meanings and good lessons and if possible id prefer a book not too short but not too long something that can keep me occupied for a month maybe i really would love to learn more about this subject so if anyone knows any greek mythology book recomendations i should pick up that has to do with the gods or stuff with lessons and deeper meaning that usnt too short nor is it too lobg that would be great if you can name more than one good books i should start off with that relate to my interest on the topic of greek mythology that would be great thank you and have a good day

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Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask this question (Mods feel free to remove if it shouldn't be here). I'm really interested in knowing more about mythology of other cultures (Greek Gods and Roman Gods, Mayan, Norse, Celtic, etc). I've found a couple videos but they were all pretty grainy quality or in the case of one video they used a speak to text computer program. I'd be excited to find something animated like CGP Grey, Baz Battles or Suibhne. Thank you

I originally started this as a reply to a user on a certain non-book focused sub. They mentioned developing an aversion to the (what should be in)famous phrase "a mythology for England" as it's applied to Tolkien. Since this post is about the writing and not adaptations, I was interested in what people would think over here as well.

There are a few problems with this "quote." The biggest issue is that Tolkien never actually wrote that he wanted to create "a mythology for England," a phrase which first appeared in Humphrey Carpenter's J. R. R. Tolkien: A Biography (1977). What Carpenter likely did is combine a few phrases of Tolkien's into one statement, but unfortunately he did so in a way that distorts could distort Tolkien's meaning [edit: or more importantly has been used by others to distort Tolkien's meaning] and it is his pithy quote that stuck around.

"A mythology for England" (with Carpenter's italics) could be taken to imply that there should be a 1 to 1 relationship between the stuff of this mythology and England itself, which is typically how people [edit: who misapply this phrase in modern discussions] seem to use it--this is an English mythology therefore it, and especially its peoples, should look English--but the mythology Tolkien actually wrote was much more expansive than that, as were his references to his work as myth.

Likewise, the most famously cited evidence for the quote, the Waldman letter, does not carry [edit: exactly] the same meaning as "a mythology for England." Here Tolkien writes "I had a mind to make a body of more or less connected legend... which I could dedicate simply to: to England; to my country." Again, this does not say that the mythology or its setting has to be England in any meaningful sense. Literature is dedicated to persons completely unrelated to its plot, setting, and/or characters all the time.

The closest he comes to the famous quote is in another letter, where he writes that he gave himself "a task" which was "to restore to the English an epic tradition and present them with a mythology of their own." This is closer but it is still not identical to "a mythology for England."

Putting the three quotes together we see that in one case he wrote he would dedicate his "legend" to England, and in the other two he writes about the appropriateness of this mythology for the English people [edit: and England itself]--but again the people and places of a nations' myths do not necessarily have to be identical with that nation itself [edit: even while maintaining some of that English air or familiarity Tolkien was interested in]. (see note)

Beyond the fact that this apocryphal quote has been so widely accepted direct from Tolkien, the biggest problem with the "mythology for England" is what it has been taken to mean by some fans. Many [edit: of this subset within Tolkien fans] assert that since it is "a mythology for England" its settings and cultures should look like England; it's peoples should look English (i.e. white). [Edit: While of course Tolkien did intend an equivalence in the Shire and nearby locations, this changes as the Hobbits move further from home.] This is both inaccurate, in that Tolkien never said this and his influences were much wider, but also seems contrary to the spirit and beliefs of an man who, in a Valadictory Address at the University of Oxford in 1959, said:

Note: the first part of this post (above 'See Note') draws heavily from Anders Stenström's "A Mythology? For England?" (Mythlore 21:2 1996). In his essay, Stenström writes that Tolkien's mythology was, as he often stressed, not England centered but "Elf-centered":

Recently, one of the ideas that seems to be getting thrown around in discussion is that Tolkien wrote Lord of the Rings/Middle Earth as English mythology, or even worse, as a backstory for England. Usually as part of a discussion about why having black/diverse actors in roles is against canon (This implies that black people cannot be English, despite living in England since at least the Roman period).

Tolkien's mythology exists as a home for his languages. Not because he wanted to have a story full of white people (he didn't) or because he believed in some sort of Neo-Scandinavia revivalism (he didn't) but because he invented languages and wanted somewhere for them to live.

Additionally (because this is another point thats being repeated everywhere): he did not model Middle Earth on English or British culture. It's a creation myth/literal flat earth myth that encompasses multiple entire continents. The inspirations that went into it include Saxon, Norse, Byzantine, Roman, Greek and Egyptian mythology and folklore.

You can't have a world that spans all the way from the Undying Lands to the wasted of Mordor and the deserts of Harad, and then say "It's all English mythology bro!" That's not how it works. It's a world myth, written by a 20th Century philologist.

Since questions about 'how to start learning about Greek mythology' appear almost every second day in this sub, I thought maybe we should make a little guide for it. So I'm writing down my own thoughts here, and I'm waiting for your comments to add more details (I'd also like to have recommendations about English translations, since I rarely read the texts in English).

Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes by Edith Hamilton. Relatively cheap with quality content. Brief, easy to understand, not too detailed, yet more than enough to get you started. It has an introduction that's very helpful when getting started, like descriptions of each major god, and even of some minor ones. Tells the tales of the important myths, and gives short description of some of the less important ones. The last chapter is about Norse mythology, I have no idea why.

Anyone have any good jumping off points into African Mythology? I realized today that I know next to nothing about African mythology, nor was I ever taught about it in school. I know tons about Greek, Roman, and Egyptian. A bit about Celtic, Chinese, and Japanese but zip for Africa. Which is insane and completely my fault (now) for not even realizing until today. But I'm excited to have so much to learn and looking for suggestions on where to start!

Neil Gaiman, long inspired by ancient mythology in creating the fantastical realms of his fiction, presents a bravura rendition of the Norse gods and their world from their origin though their upheaval in Ragnarok.

I recommend this book to those who are interested in Norse mythology and want to read or hear the stories in much the same way the ancient and medieval Norse listeners would originally have heard them. In fact, this would be my go-to recommendation for this audience.

I am a senior in high school taking a mythology class. Basically we are finishing Greek mythology and moving on to a choose your own myth project. (Side note after that we are ending the semester with Norse mythology). Because Greek mythology in reality is filled with: incest, rape, misogyny, weirdos, and a complete lack of logical reasoning, I really enjoyed the stories. From talking to the one friend that I knew who already took the class apparently Greek mythology is the most "cancerous" of the mythologies. If any mythology has the same level of absurd and inappropriate subject material the rivals or surpasses Greek mythology I would like to know.

In the before times, I taught a class on how to read really old books. It was a class for freshmen who felt a bit daunted by reading Homer or Beowulf or Milton. Every so often, I would get a smart-ass atheist kid asking: "Why don't we call the Bible mythology?" I'm derogatory about these kids (a) because that is very obviously not what the class was about and (b) it was not a good faith question. Mythology is a form of fiction and labeling Christianity or Islam or Buddhism a fiction is a troll.

I usually opened the floor to discuss this question and the standard answer that most students came to is "Mythology is dead religions". That, I suspect, is the definition that most people operate off of. Like there is this spectrum with "religion" on one end, "mythology" on the other, and "superstition" in the middle; with the slider being nudged one way or the other by the number of people who subscribe to the relevant beliefs.

The vast majority of the surviving literature from Ancient Greece is fiction. It always was fiction. It was poems and plays that contained things that people believed, but were not the things that people believed. For Americans, consider The Patriot. Mel Gibson plays a southern plantation owner who teaches a bunch of farmers to be guerrillas in order to fight Lord Cornwallis. Now, the American Revolution did happen and there was a southern plantation owner who used guerrilla tactics against Cornwallis. However, The Patriot is not a biopic of Francis Marion. There is very little history in that movie and no one went into the theater expecting to learn. It's an action movie that borrows from history to fill in the gaps of its fiction. That's mythology.

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