No license found for pwrshell or plogshell... What the heck is that?

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ta...@listserver.pads.com

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Nov 30, 2008, 11:22:01 PM11/30/08
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All of a sudden PADS will only come up in demo mode because some license with macrovision has expired (the message sais expired Nov 27). My USB key (which I paid Mentor Graphics) several thousand dollars for) is in the USB drive. Does anyone know what is this problem?? It's Sunday evening and I have to get work done for tomorrow. I dont' have time to spend with some programmers licensing software glitch.
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Cadmaster Design

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Dec 1, 2008, 12:09:18 AM12/1/08
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I went off maintenance for Plogic so when I downloaded 2007.4 I got the same
message for plogshell. I just have to use PADS2007.2 or earlier for logic
now. You should check your licensefile.dat to see if the expiration date is
Nov. 27th which it probably is. If you're off maintenance you can request,
I believe, a 5 year license. If you're on maintenance call support and get
a new license file.

Christine

Paul E. Schoen

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Dec 1, 2008, 2:40:47 AM12/1/08
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It is inexcusable for PADS to disallow the use of a more recent version of
the same software, with bug fixes, without being forced to continue their
tyrranical maintenance and support. If they sold you a defective product,
they should allow you to upgrade to one that meets the standards and
capabilities that they advertised. If not, they are in violation of their
implied warranty.

But, AFAIK, even in demo mode, you can still use all of the features of the
newer version, and then export the design into an ASCII file using a simple
script. Then you can reload it into an earlier version that your license
file allows, and do your normal DRC and output functions.

Paul

The entire script consists of few lines:

======================================================================================
Sub Main
Dim TestFileName As String

TestFileName = Left$(Application.ActiveDocument,
Len(Application.ActiveDocument)-4) & ".asc"
message = "Saving project " & Application.ActiveDocument & " as " &
TestFileName
MsgBox message
Document.ExportASCII(TestFileName)

End Sub
======================================================================================

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Austin Franklin

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Dec 1, 2008, 8:12:26 AM12/1/08
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Hi Paul,

> It is inexcusable for PADS to disallow the use of a more recent
> version of
> the same software, with bug fixes, without being forced to continue their
> tyrranical maintenance and support. If they sold you a defective product,
> they should allow you to upgrade to one that meets the standards and
> capabilities that they advertised. If not, they are in violation of their
> implied warranty.

Though I %100 agree, everyone should get what ever version they paid for
with all significant bugs fixed (like Cadence does with Allegro) without
having to spend any more money. But Mentor corporate doesn't really care
what we think.

If you read the license agreement (I believe this part is in the license
file it self) it says that you have, if I remember right, 30 days to reject
the terms of the agreement, and they will refund your money. After that
time period, you agree to basically accept what you got. If you reject the
agreement under their terms (which I did when they changed the licensing
"scheme" from 30 year to 15 months), you'll probably have to fight with them
to get your money back.

Regards,

Austin

Chuck Tidwell

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Dec 1, 2008, 11:43:43 AM12/1/08
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They killed that in 2007.4
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>
> But, AFAIK, even in demo mode, you can still use all of the features of
> the newer version, and then export the design into an ASCII file using a
> simple script. Then you can reload it into an earlier version that your
> license file allows, and do your normal DRC and output functions.
>
> Paul
>
> The entire script consists of few lines:

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Hawker <hawker@ashevillecommunity.org>

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Dec 1, 2008, 1:34:10 PM12/1/08
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Probably because we let them know about there hole.
Oh well,


On 12/1/2008 11:43 AM, Chuck Tidwell wrote:
> They killed that in 2007.4

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ta...@listserver.pads.com

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Dec 3, 2008, 10:37:13 AM12/3/08
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Does anyone else use a dongle instead of online licnsing? They sent me a text file with a a lot of verbage and somehwere in there is suposed to be license info. I've had a day of emails back and forth with Mentor Graphics and no one yet has been able to simply tell me how to get that information into my computer. Open PADS first? Find some license directory within PADS??? I did find a file which is totally blank. so.....copy-paste something into there???

John Matthews

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Dec 3, 2008, 11:03:09 AM12/3/08
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That text file is your license. Support should be able to walk you
through how to install it properly, it's not hard to do.

Or just go to SupportNet:
http://supportnet.mentor.com/reference/technotes/public/technote.cfm?tn=mg59655
(at least I think that's the right place).

JM

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Austin Franklin

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Dec 3, 2008, 11:08:47 AM12/3/08
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Hi -END-,

What is "online licensing"? I'm still using a dongle...and certainly wouldn't want to use "online licensing" if it means what I think it does. All this "phoning home" some software does these days is just asking for problems.

Best Regards,

Austin

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Patrick Corbin

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Dec 3, 2008, 11:12:23 AM12/3/08
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Using a USB key...but dongle should kinda be the same
file may have alot of blah blah blah but actual license should start with something like this>>>
 
INCREMENT blzanyangle mgcld 2009.010 30-apr-2009 0 4D28C16D9A5A390695E4 \

VENDOR_STRING=4E789680 HOSTID=FLEXID=9-671ed3f0 SN=10746801 \

SIGN2="00B3 652D B584 DC04 85F0 5777 CA7C 30D2 0260 916D F6C3 3F1E \

ED6A 09EB 50B6 1F68 D2FC 6931 A874 56AF BE05 8170 0E9D 9678 1198 D2D8 \

E6A2 FE0F 2DB2 0DB0"

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Older licenses look like this for dongle:

FEATURE BlazeDynamicRouteEditingUnl psidaemon 5.0 1-jan-0 0 \

AC5EC013425F61E65688 VENDOR_STRING=REGID=23323 \

HOSTID=FLEXID=6-a630060a ck=237

FEATURE BlazeGeneralEditing psidaemon 5.0 1-jan-0 0 \

3C3EA0834E7EAFBD88C3 VENDOR_STRING=REGID=23323 \

HOSTID=FLEXID=6-a630060a ck=81


Cliff Harris

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Dec 3, 2008, 1:55:43 PM12/3/08
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Try this on your computer:

Start Menu\Programs\Mentor Graphics SDD\PADS2007.2\Licensing Tools

There is a shortcut called "Install License" to a batch file. Maybe that will do the trick for you.

The shortcut points here:

C:\MentorGraphics\2007.2PADS\SDD_HOME\pads\win32\javasetup.exe

I went through this awhile back and they told me to paste the new file into the appropriate places in the old license file. I tried several combinations but nothing worked. One of the other guys finally did the install so I don't know exactly what he did.


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Dave White

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Dec 3, 2008, 2:17:57 PM12/3/08
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http://supportnet.mentor.com/myaccount/index.cfm?fa=user.licenses

Actually this link is easier. Just go to Current Authcodes, it will ask
for your site number or Site ID. I think it processes them automagically
now Not more than 30 minutes.

Austin,
That doesn't mean we ping you, although the support sales people would.

-Dave

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Subject: Re: No license found for pwrshell or plogshell... What the heck
is that?

That text file is your license. Support should be able to walk you
through how to install it properly, it's not hard to do.

Or just go to SupportNet:
http://supportnet.mentor.com/reference/technotes/public/technote.cfm?tn=
mg59655
(at least I think that's the right place).

JM

ta...@listserver.pads.com wrote:
> Does anyone else use a dongle instead of online licnsing? They sent me
a text file with a a lot of verbage and somehwere in there is suposed to
be license info. I've had a day of emails back and forth with Mentor
Graphics and no one yet has been able to simply tell me how to get that
information into my computer. Open PADS first? Find some license
directory within PADS??? I did find a file which is totally blank.
so.....copy-paste something into there???
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Austin, Texas 78754

512.836.1088 x1108


Austin Franklin

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Dec 3, 2008, 2:28:12 PM12/3/08
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Hi Dave,

I hope you and your family had a great Thanksgiving!

> That doesn't mean we ping you, although the support sales people would.

What was meant by "online licensing"? Simply the generation of the license
file? If so, that's great, but the comment was in the context of a
dongle...which would have nothing to do with getting your license file over
the internet...you could do that with a dongle or with a floating license.

Regards,

Austin

ta...@listserver.pads.com

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Dec 4, 2008, 12:53:23 PM12/4/08
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Well everything is working now! I finally was able to get in touch with a service guy - Stephen (thanks Stephen). The install-license-routine in PADS is the correct method to get the new license data into my software. The confusing part for me was that the install-license-routine wnated the whole text file. I was trying to copy-paste just the portion of the text file which looked like a string of data but that didn't work. Stephen simply told me to copy the whole text file. (Duh) I wish that hint was in the instructions.
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