Javascript 101 Please complete the sign-up task to get approved

[Parag Shah]

Hello to all Javascript 101 applicants,

I have recently approved many applications for the course. However, there are many applications which have not submitted the sign-up task.

Please submit the sign-up task to be approved for the course. I have left a comment on all such applications.

I can see that some people have submitted multiple applications. If you have already been approved, and have also received a comment to submit the sign-up task, then you can safely ignore the comment to submit the sign-up task.

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Parag Shah
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[Pippa Buchanan]

Parag, you can also send a broadcast message to applicants from within your course page on P2PU. That will reach them directly whereas adding a message on this list may not reach their attention.

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[Jessica Ledbetter]

http://p2pu.org/webcraft/javascript-101

Found via:
http://p2pu.org/webcraft

Hope that helps!

Jessica

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:31 AM, JimS <james....@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't see where to sign up for Javascript 101.  Can someone provide
> a link?
>
> Thanks
> Jim Siefert

>> Parag Shahhttp://blog.adaptivesoftware.biz

[Andy Turner]

i have submitted my signup task but have not heard back for approval. How do I post the link to my blog post regarding the signup task, do i put the link in the comments...or?
thanks,
andy

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[Pippa Buchanan]

Hi Andrew,

please understand that Parag and all other course organisers are incredibly overloaded with all the amazing applications they've received. Applications close after January 19th and final announcements may not be made for a couple of days following.

If you need to contact a course organiser directly, please do that through their profile page on the P2PU site. 

In order to submit your sign-up task you need to be logged into the P2PU site so that you can follow the "Sign-UP" link at the top of the page.  You'll be directed to a text form where you can enter your task information.

Best,

Pippa

[Parag Shah]

Hi Andy,

you have been accepted in the course. You should see Javascript 101 in your courses on the P2P page. Please verify and mail me if you do not see Javascript 101 in your courses.

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[shyronnie]

Is the sign up task the one where you have to watch a video and write
something about it?

On Jan 17, 1:57 am, Parag Shah <adapti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Andy,
>
> you have been accepted in the course. You should see Javascript 101 in your
> courses on the P2P page. Please verify and mail me if you do not see
> Javascript 101 in your courses.
>
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> Parag Shahhttp://blog.adaptivesoftware.biz

>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Andy Turner <responsib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > i have submitted my signup task but have not heard back for approval. How
> > do I post the link to my blog post regarding the signup task, do i put the
> > link in the comments...or?
> > thanks,
> > andy
>
> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Jessica Ledbetter <
> > jess...@jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
>
> >>http://p2pu.org/webcraft/javascript-101
>
> >> Found via:
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> >> Hope that helps!
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> >> Jessica
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[Paul Wilkins]

On 18 January 2011 16:05, shyronnie <blood...@gmail.com> wrote:

Is the sign up task the one where you have to watch a video and write
something about it?

There are two tasks.

From: http://p2pu.org/webcraft/javascript-101

Task 1:

Write a blog post about what you learned

Task 2:

Write a simple Javascript program which will print the sum of 2+2 and display the result in an alert window in the browser.

You will have to create an HTML page and put your Javascript code within that page, so it executes when the page loads.

You will need to submit two things - the link to your blog post, and the code for your Task 2 HTML page.

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[shyronnie]

Link? But there was just a blank form, and I wrote the blog there, as
well as the code. Then I hit "Submit" or whatever. Do you mean we have
to write the blog somewhere else, then put an external link to that?

On Jan 17, 10:09 pm, Paul Wilkins <paul.m.wilk...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Paul Wilkins]

On 19 January 2011 19:19, shyronnie <blood...@gmail.com> wrote:

Link? But there was just a blank form, and I wrote the blog there, as
well as the code. Then I hit "Submit" or whatever. Do you mean we have
to write the blog somewhere else, then put an external link to that?

Correct. 

[Jim Siefert]

I did what Paul did. I don't have a blog to post to. Explain why that
must be a prerequisite to being approved to take this course?

Thanks,
Jim Siefert

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[ozzie sutcliffe]

The same reason you need to graduate high school before college.
In order to succeed there is a minimum level of competency required.
The idea of having your own blog is many..
You have proof of your study. maybe you need that college, resume, your boss.
It is your virtual notes..
Sharing, the blog enables you to share with everyone..

oz

[Jessica Ledbetter]

I'm not the facilitator for the course but I can understand why a
class would do well with external blogs. You can subscribe to all the
blogs' feeds so that you can see everyone's posts easily. Also, it's a
great way to help with engagement between class mates. They can visit
and post, and there can be a dialog without flooding a mailing list.

You don't have to have an existing one but can make one just for the
course. I'm thinking of requiring blogs for my course so curious about
thoughts on why it might not be a good idea. Would you share your
hesitation, Jim? If you prefer, you can send it to me directly and not
on the list.

Thank you,
Jessica

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Jim Siefert <james....@gmail.com> wrote:

[Parag Shah]

Jim,

A blog is a wonderful tool to share your reflections and work with classmates and the world in general.

When a person learns something they have a unique take and understanding. When all participants blog their reflections it serves many purposes:
1. The very act of blogging will force you to think about what you learned. This will help you gain a deeper understanding of the material. I can vouch for this because I have experienced it several times.
2. By blogging you are sharing your perspective of a concept. We all learn from each other, so in some ways you will be contributing to the collective understanding. I realize that everyone will not have the time to read everyone else's blog, but if participants randomly read blogs by other participants and engage in comments/conversations then everyone stands to benefit.
3. Even though we are all learning for knowledge, wouldn't it be nice if we can leave a learning trail, a sort of proof of knowledge which even though not a certificate, can still act as some credentials. I have been increasingly reading how people's blogs are becoming even more important than their resumes.
4. Over time your blog will become your knowledge base, which you can refer to when you need to refresh something.

I have experienced all of these personally and hence am keen for all the participants to maintain blogs as they do this course.

If you feel hesitant to maintain a blog due to privacy or other reasons, then please write to me, and perhaps we can work around it.

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[shyronnie]

Hmm, that one wasn't clear in the instructions. I've already submitted
what I submitted, and I just don't want to bother doing it again in my
own blog. Besides, that blog is private as it's more like a diary.
That blog is for me to be a drama queen and write all emotional stuff.
I guess I'll just study Javascript on my own from w3schools.com.

[Pippa Buchanan]

Hi shyronnie,

regardless of whether you are accepted to a course or not, you will still have the opportunity to follow the JavaScript course as the content is openly available.

I do recommend having a separate blog for learning related content, particularly as it's a useful resource to build a working portfolio within. I too have a personal dramaqueen blog and find it really practical to be able to separate my more personal content from learning and professional content.

If you're unable to participate in the January courses please continue to be involved in the community  as we'll have more courses beginning in April.

Best,

Pippa

[Parag Shah]

Shyronnie,

I can understand your hesitation to start yet another blog. But I do feel that having one blog dedicated to your learning and tech reflections would be a good thing. It does not have to be a blog dedicated to Javascript 101, but rather a tech reflections and learning blog.

It's not a blog per se that is required, but a web space. A wiki or Google pages would also serve the same purpose.

Having said that, I respect your decision to not have another blog. You are very welcome to follow along the course without enrolling, if it helps you.

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[richard hardy]

Hi, I have done the sign up task over a week ago and wondered when you
got to know if you were successful?

Richard

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[Jim Siefert]

I wrote what I would have posted as a blog and the "2+2" solution and
submitted. It was weak. Did you get it?
I'm not a writer/blogger and do not pretend to be. My writing skills
are atrocious and I certainly do not want that connected to my
programming skills. I want to learn javascript, not blogging. If the
blog is mandatory, I think I too will just follow along with the
class.

Thanks,
Jim Siefert

[ozzie sutcliffe]

I am no Earnest Hemingway either, another side value of the blog is
that it will increase your writing skills.
Writing code includes documenting your code.
Maybe you can find a study buddy, that will co-author your blog with you.
I write what I would say if I were face to face.
What you wrote below works for me.
Trust me there will be no grading on grammar, sentence construction etc
The term blog comes from web log.
A web log is probably the most inarticulate document you can find ..
snip
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is unknown type 15 (usb?), fd1 is unknown type 15 (usb?)
Failed to obtain physical IRQ 6
floppy0: no floppy controllers found
EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal
device-mapper: 4.5.0-ioctl (2005-10-04) initialised: dm-d...@redhat.com
loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
ISO 9660 Extensions: IEEE_P1282
Adding 262136k swap on /dev/sda2. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:262136k
ieee1394: Initialized config rom entry `ip1394'
ip_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
ip_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
NET: Registered protocol family 10
lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
snip

This is from my linux box kernel log messages ,not exactly a page from
Aldous Huxley...

There's only one corner of the universe you can be certain of
improving, and that's your own self.
Aldous Huxley

Oz

[shyronnie]

It's good that the course is openly available. However, I'm going to
be studying SQL and Java at school this spring semester, so I guess I
won't really have the time to keep up with you guys. Concentrating on
those two is probably a good idea for now. I can just learn Javascript
on my own anyway; it doesn't seem to be a difficult language to learn.
Actually, C++ is another one I want to fully learn, as I failed that
one at school last year. Probably my fault, but I'd like to blame my
confusing professor on that one. :)

To be honest, actual human interaction is still the best way to learn
anything. But kudos to the many people who organizes this.

[Pippa Buchanan]

We are real people, but unfortunately teleporting technology is not yet advanced, real, or affordable enough for us to provide actual human interaction for free. ;-)

Hopefully there'll come a day in the future when we've got enough School of Webcraft and P2PU participants to organise more face-to-face groups. :-)
 
Until then, please do feel free to check in now and then to see our online progress and good luck with your studies this upcoming semester.

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[Parag Shah]

shyronnie,

Good luck with your college courses and C++ especially :-)

Feel free to follow along the Javascript course without officially enrolling if it helps you.

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[Shanaka Fernando]

Hi Parag,

Still I'm confusing that how can I join to the courses. Can u kidly let me know how should I join and what should I do to learn ?

Thanks,
Shanaka

[Wes Spiwak]

My only concern with this Javascript 101 course, sure you can have pre-requisites and i'm sure you have had more than enough entry's... i hesitate on the blog situation.
Now my question would be if you have such requirements... why call the course 101.... if you have a 101 course your requirements should not be such a high standard...

First off your expecting some to have the ability to create such code, and require a blog...
I thought about just hosting my own blog for this situtation, but found that in light of a 101 course, your a bit to far ahead even for me to join, and i'm not that much of a beginner.
however, like i said you probably have more entry's then you can handle anyway so was actually hesitant in this reply.

[ozzie sutcliffe]

You don't need to code a blog just create one at blogger wordpress etc.
We have actually forked the class in 2 tracks
1 track which is the original course as published and called the
JavaScript 101 class
the other track is called JavaScript 101 lite .
We were not looking for the ability to create the code but rather find
resources to learn how to create the code.
I know on my journey I found about 5 sites that I booked marked as resources .
The course has evolved a bit , but that's OK , the beauty is we can
leverage the change.
Everything is public so you can tag along and not join up.

oz

[William Helman]

Wes,

I can't really speak to the blog issue, but I can somewhat relate to your concerns on the scripting.  To paraphrase an old tv show: I am a librarian, not a code monkey.  I know html and css very well, but only know enough to hack existing javascript.  I was intimidated by some the more advanced javascript talk that has been going on in the forums.  But that's ok.  The bar for entry into this course (and others) is actually fairly low, with just a little research.

I found a solution, on dealing with operators like addition, in the w3c Javascript tutorial (http://www.w3schools.com/js/default.asp).

  -Bill

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Wes Spiwak <wes.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Parag Shah]

Hello Everyone,

I can understand the concerns that many people have about the level of the sign-up task, however over the years I have reaized/learned that a very important part of coding is sometimes being able to research a bit, and create a solution when we do not even know the technology we are working with. Please do not get me wrong, I do not endorse the copy-paste method of writing code, but no programmer or techie ever works in an isolated tech environment. There are all sorts of technologies floating around and we will at some time find ourselves in a situation where we have to fix a small issue in something we do not understand at all.

I was hoping this sort of a thought process to happen when someone attempted the sign-up task:
1. I do not know Javascript, but let me read the problem and see if I can come up with a solution
2. Hmmm so I need to add 2 numbers and display the result in an alert window
3. ok adding 2 numbers should not be very difficult (a little bit of research will show how)
4. Now I need to hold the result in a variable  (the first video shows how)
5. Now we need to display this result in an alert window
6. What the hell is an alert window... let me search on Google
7. ok now I need to show this alert window when the user does something on the webpage (let's go back to Google and figure how to bring up the alert window when the user clicks a button or loads the page)

If you think about this inner dialogue, it actually contains many things that someone who does not know Javascript would also know along with some simple research to fill in the blanks. This is not copy paste coding, but what I would call "just in time learning" and filling in the blanks.

In my humble opinion, such solution seeking is an extremely important skill for anyone who wishes to be a programmer. The important part is not to get intimidated by what we do not know, but instead try to build a scenario with what we do, extrapolate a bit, and try to fill in the blanks with some research.

Thoughts? Opinions ?

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[ozzie sutcliffe]

Thats the process I used and found 4 ways to solve the task and I am
sure there are more..
Every time I go near the dev folks they always seem to have at least 2
books open at any given point in time.
Has to be a message there somewhere /

oz

[selfstudier]

That's about the way I did it (I did know a bit about programming/html, not Javascript).

[bradm...@live.com]

Well said

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[Janet Davies]

Parag, that is an excellent response. I do get a little *cough* annoyed at folks who expect everything handed to them on a plate. If you (a) can't find out how to register and sign up to any sort of web dev class (other than complete beginner) and (b) don't know how to use Google to find answers then you might want to question whether or not you should be applying in the first place.

[Pippa Buchanan]

Thank you for being so tactful Janet!

You're right, the sign-up tasks _are_ there to help organisers determine which applicants are going to be able work at the same level as their peers. If anyone could finish the task and join a class it would be even more overwhelming for volunteer course leaders!


I did write a blog post about the importance of sign-up tasks which came up through the planet webcraft feed and on this list,  but we can't guarantee that every course applicant is going to read that content.

Moving forward we'll be vastly improving the way sign-up operates which will hopefully prevent some of the problems that posters to this thread have had. It does seem that we need to provide more information about _why_ we have sign-up tasks as part of the P2PU interface.

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[Parag Shah]

Hi Janet,

Yes it is so annoying when people expect things to be handed on a platter for them :-)

Sometimes I teach a Java course at a local college, and I try to encourage students to ask questions in such a way that they can deduce the answer after a few Google searches. We are working in times when almost everything is a few Google searches away, if we just follow a process of deduction :-)

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[Amy Donahue]

I love this thread. As a new co-facilitator, I'm so very on board
with this clear definition of the point and purpose of the sign-up
tasks.

But I thought it was worth mentioning that there are so many channels
and they're hard to find, making it even harder to guarantee that
people are reading it...the first I had actually heard about Planet
Webcraft was on the call last week. And I don't even remember exactly
how I found this list in the first place, but it was basically a happy
accident (I actually think it was on Twitter, a rather indirect
route). I'm a big fan of using the tool that's needed for the task at
hand (wiki vs. mailing list vs. blog vs. etherpad vs....), so I have
no problem with the actual number, I'd just love to see a list of
everything there is (maybe in a hierarchy from Drumbeat down to SoW)
somewhere big, like right on the P2PU page. Maybe it exists
somewhere? I haven't had a lot of time to dig around, but my thinking
is that maybe other newish people are on the same boat. :)

Thanks! Can't get over how tickled I am to get to see all this in action. :)

~Amy

[Parag Shah]

Hi Pippa,

Taking the thpught behind sign-up tasks further...

I am also seeing the sign-up task, as a way to determine if a participant is willing to put the effort in applying some thought and effort. If any participants would have asked me questions about "what they should be thinking next" to get the sign-up task done, I would have gladly offered them help. I think I would have accepted participants who could not complete the task, if they could demonstrate the effort and thought process they put into it.

You are right, moving ahead it would be nice to clarify the purpose and important of the sign-up task.

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[Jessica Ledbetter]

Maybe we can start gathering up our thoughts on signup tasks and put
them on the qa site? I posted a question a bit ago to get good
examples (and hopefully why they were good), but we can make a new
question like "What makes a good signup task" or "Why signup task" or
such.

http://qa.p2pu.org/questions/49/what-are-some-good-examples-of-sign-up-tasks

[Pippa Buchanan]

Another place to update information about sign-up tasks (for course organisers) is in the Course Design Handbook and the Webcraft sub section of the document.

http://wiki.p2pu.org/w/page/27905271/Course-Design-Handbook
http://wiki.p2pu.org/w/page/34243004/Designing-a-Course-for-School-of-Webcraft#ManagingSignUps

[shyronnie]

I know I was already accepted to the class, but I just created a blog
after being accepted. Is there an official place to post the links of
the blogs?

[Jim Siefert]

Is anyone having difficulty getting the video on
http://www.diycomputerscience.com/courses/course/JAVASCRIPT/competency/186
to play? The page loads but the little blue progress circle just
continues to spin and the video does not start.

Thx

Jim Siefert

[selfstudier]

Try http://s1sdlod029.bcst.cdn.s1s.yimg.com//s1snfs06r17/017/videosearch/32965130.flv?StreamID=32965130&pl_auth=ee84d4b14e4e9cb438949ac0457a36d1&ht=21600&pl_b=00D90C08885852CE6E1075FFD44D404083&s=792795605&br=300&mdt=unknown&mid=1710506&nid=1710507&pg=MjAxNzg3MTg4ODRkNDA0MD&q=YkiKvIcezBaIRh64GEdZ13&rd=video.yahoo.com-offsite&sl=1858&so=%252Fvideosearch%252Fvideosearch%252Fyvs7439ba3a1dab639395d3d63bc5f4184517 see if that works...

Better to post these queries on the course forums, not everyone is reading here.

[Jim Siefert]

No, that didn't work. It was a 7 second flash clip that was black.
But, thanks anyway.

Jim

[selfstudier]

I download via a download manager and that was the link it said it was downloading and it downloaded fine.

Maybe it includes some other information specific to my setup and that's why it didn't work for you.

I'm sure the course organizer can guide you or give you a direct link.