What would your Top 5 Webcraft courses be?

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Pippa Buchanan

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Mar 4, 2011, 3:12:20 AM3/4/11
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We're hoping to create some pre-designed courses that are perfect for School of Webcraft, both in their topic matter and in supporting fun peer-learning interactions. Initially we'd like to identify 5 interesting, useful and challenging courses to refine our approach on, but we'd love to have a larger list of ideas to use as building blocks for these projects.

You can dream as big or as precisely as you'd like, so, without restrictions, what do you want to learn at School of Webcraft?




Parag Shah

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Mar 4, 2011, 6:14:40 AM3/4/11
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Hi Pippa,

I think these courses would be very relevant to School of Webcraft.
  • Introduction to HTML
  • HTML 5
  • CSS
  • Javascript 101
  • Introduction to SQL
I can think of a few more, but restricting my list to 5 entries only.

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Josmas Flores

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Mar 4, 2011, 7:16:59 AM3/4/11
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Hi guys,

I agree with Parag that those are the basics and would interest a lot
of people but there are a couple of things out there that really
'move' masses such as ruby on rails (and many other frameworks). In my
opinion, the school should also cater for more experienced users, so
if you want to focus on 5 courses, I would probably go for 2-3
introductory ones, 1-2 for more experienced participants, and 1 for
participants that are already working on that area but want to expand
(say, you do PHP for a living and want to give Rails a go). On the
more experienced side of things, a Django course would make more sense
than a Rails one, cause even though rails is a lot more popular, you
could use lernata/batucada as the basis for that course, and as a
quite nice side effect, some people might contribute back to the
project. Plus you have a bunch of specialist in-house that could
create some really amazing content.

It could also be a good idea that those top 5, somehow reflect the
whole spectrum of web development as a craft; pure graphics design,
web design (or graphics applied to the web), development, testing,
deployment... the whole lifecycle.

cheers,
José

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Lucica Ibanescu

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Mar 4, 2011, 8:18:00 AM3/4/11
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I agree with José about the need to have introductory and advanced courses,
a lot of courses here are introductory and more experienced developers get
bored and abandon them. Let's challenge them a little bit!

I think in the future the world will spin around: design, mobile
development, e-commerce, accessibility, SEO/SEM/SMM.

Lucica

Heather Leson

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Mar 4, 2011, 8:20:07 AM3/4/11
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+1 on those lists. 
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Almalibre

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Mar 4, 2011, 8:22:34 AM3/4/11
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+1 html5

JWeb

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Mar 4, 2011, 9:19:47 AM3/4/11
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Combining and expanding:
  • Introduction to Web 2.0 and HTML
  • HTML 5 & CSS
  • Javascript 101
  • PHP 101
  • MySQL 101

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Parag Shah <adap...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Jessica Ledbetter

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Mar 4, 2011, 9:34:39 AM3/4/11
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Personally, I'd like to see some advanced ones. However, I've really
been enjoying the introduction to Ruby on Rails so think introductions
to various languages used in web creation would be good like: Python,
Javascript, PHP, and Java.

For advanced:
* advanced level of languages like Javascript and maybe some
frameworks like Django
* general topic courses like: usability, accessibility, security,
design (including how to do things more effectively with HTML5/CSS3),
contributing to open source, and testing

And to get more peer-learning interactions baked in, maybe some
project-based courses. Or we learn the above via a project that builds
over the course.

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Jim Siefert

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Mar 4, 2011, 11:43:30 AM3/4/11
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JWeb's list I think s/b the top 5. But, I too would like to see
advanced courses to follow these as well.

Thanks
Jim

Javier Dominguez

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Mar 6, 2011, 12:09:12 PM3/6/11
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Greetings,

The beauty of this project is that it opens up learning from everyone to everyone. In my position as an admissions advisor at an online for profit university, I see and come in contact everyday with a large portion of the population which is in severe need of basic computing skills and overall web knowledge and training. People that are being left behind by technology and the web itself. People that just bought a personal computer, plugged into the wall and just started surfing the internet and can barely even read their e-mails, participate, chat or even send e-mail using attachments.

It is a paradox the device and the service that can unlock their learning and provide them with training and knowledge is so confusing and remains as the stumbling block for them further their talent and their knowledge. I would like to suggest that in addition to any basic web and programming courses, which will certainly help, that P2PU consider adding a school, curriculum or program geared towards getting people up to speed on the web with the most basic tools, training and knowledge so they can eventually become, if they choose to, web developers, programmers or just knowledgeable users.

What makes the open source and open learning movement so powerful and a force of progress and change is the ability to inspire and take advantage of the talent of thousands is not millions of volunteers providing their talent and ideas to the improvement of software, code and mankind. I can only imagine what could others contribute if given the opportunity to learn as well.

Respectfully yours,

Javier A. Dominguez
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Saitam

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Mar 6, 2011, 9:33:25 PM3/6/11
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Hi,

The list:
-Intro. HTML
-CSS
-Javascript
-HTML5 (I'm in the curse of HTML5 called "Experiencias web con html5"
in P2Pu)
-PHP
-Mysql

Greetings From Chile!

Lallo

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Mar 6, 2011, 9:09:43 PM3/6/11
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HTML5
CSS3
PHP
MySQL
Joomla

Hieroweb

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Mar 5, 2011, 12:02:33 PM3/5/11
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- Introduction to Web 2.0 and HTML
- HTML 5 & CSS
- Javascript 101
- SEO, SEM 101
- Graphic Design for the Web 101

Jason Nyquist

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Mar 6, 2011, 11:48:22 PM3/6/11
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I completely agree with the lists above - they are all fundamental.
But I really want to see:

-intro to the best practices of/for MySQL, JSON, XML, PHP, JavaScript,
AJAX - putting all the pieces together for an integrated full site
development.

-app development with HTML5, CSS3, and JavaScript.

-a broad survey of and intro to the tools/spaces out there: Eclipse,
Google App Engine, Dreamweaver, FileZilla, GitHub, StackOverflow, Open
Web, Joomla, Drupal, (I don't really know what to put here ;-)... to
explore how to connect to the tools and the people/organizations to
get the job done, to catch up on the 'distributed knowledge' that
programmers and developers (who have been in this space for a long
time) have but beginners have no clue about, to create savvy.

Kelton Valdez

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Mar 7, 2011, 12:01:27 AM3/7/11
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