Tech and General Education Courses at P2P University in Hackerspaces

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Heath Matlock

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Feb 15, 2010, 3:33:16 AM2/15/10
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Here's the idea in a nutshell: create an international school with
schools located at various hackerspaces.

Surprise, it's already in the works, P2PU ( http://www.p2pu.org ). But
P2PU needs to partner with some organizations in order to get certain
accreditation, specifically in areas of technology and engineering,
because you really do need a hands-on approach with some areas of
study in these broad categories of education. And in light of all the
technology being developed and already present at many hackerspaces,
this idea seems feasible.

Because it can be cumbersome to specialize in more than two specific
areas of education, I propose hackerspace specialize. One hackerspace
could focus on Molecular Biology, another on CS and EE. And because of
this specialization, students would probably be travelling to new
hackerspaces between semesters.

If you're interested in this concept of allowing students a chance to
meet many interesting people, training in well-equipped facilities,
and being credited for their work, please toss out your thoughts. :-)

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Heath Matlock

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Feb 15, 2010, 3:38:54 AM2/15/10
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On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Heath Matlock <heathm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One hackerspace could focus on Molecular Biology, another on CS and EE.

I forgot to add "etc." at the end of this sentence, obviously there
are more areas to study than just these three. :-P

Heath Matlock

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Feb 15, 2010, 3:41:29 PM2/15/10
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On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Simon Dorfman <si...@gumbolabs.org> wrote:
> It's interesting that you're pursuing accreditation.  I don't know much
> about accreditation.  Can you tell us more about it?  Is it worth pursuing?

The Wikipedia page has a good overview of accreditation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_accreditation

Of course it's worth pursuing, employers don't care much for
non-accredited work, they prefer their employees to have been held to
standards set by accrediting agencies for some reason.

> What is the process?  What governing body (or bodies) would you have to
> please?

That depends on what type of accrediting agency, whether it's an
international or regional, here's a list of agencies in the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recognized_accreditation_associations_of_higher_learning


> I'm considering organizing an iPhone App Dev class at our space this summer
> (using the Stanford class materials):
> http://forum.gumbolabs.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=33

Nice, as a comment to the hackintosh, you might look into running Mac
virtually.

> Do you think that would fit in with P2PU?

I certainly think it would, you can view previous courses at
http://www.p2pu.org/Courses and by tomorrow, new courses for the next
semester are supposedly being posted. You might want to look into
being a teacher.

As a side note, I'm not affiliated with P2PU, I've yet to take a
course, and have only had minimal contact with those involved in
organizing things. Personally, it doesn't seem so P2P-like at the
moment because I don't see anyone active in discussion boards or chat
channels. I'm typically the only guy in the chat channel. If you visit
http://groups.google.com/group/p2pu-discuss/about you'll see that with
only sending seven emails I've risen quickly to become a "top poster" on
the email list :-\

This is my only complaint about P2P-U and I'll forward this to the
channel and maybe we can have some discussion on opening up decision
making processes to everyone and not just a few board members, because
that isn't P2P. I may be wrong, hopefully I am.


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Philipp Schmidt

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Feb 16, 2010, 1:34:39 AM2/16/10
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Hello Heath and Simon: This is an interesting conversation and I would
like to get a little more background on existing projects/work you are
involved in that P2PU could connect to. The past few weeks have been
incredibly busy and we haven't had time to follow up on your earlier
emails. Please bear with us while we are moving servers and launching
courses round II, and lets connect in the next weeks.

From P2PU's perspective, formal accreditation is not a core feature we
are planning to offer. We are interested in connecting our
participants to existing pathways to credit but believe that the real
source of innovation lies in alternative open accreditation
mechanisms. We are piloting this for web developers with the Mozilla
foundation.

Best - P

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Ron Krate

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Feb 17, 2010, 2:14:12 AM2/17/10
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Dear Colleagues,

Worth a shot, if we can do it remotely or with or International Professors or Fellows? We would need a few people to hop on if includes adult edu, continuing edu, college students..... and perhaps a discussion group to form an alliance.

( It may work for us Heath if we, the International Professors Project, can direct teaching/learning activity to students in poor and developing countries.)

I'll tell Heath what you think or you can write to him directly, of course.

Kind regards,
Ron Krate, Ph.D.
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International Professors Project
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On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Heath Matlock <heathm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's the idea in a nutshell: create an international school with
schools located at various hackerspaces.

Surprise, it's already in the works, P2PU ( http://www.p2pu.org ). But
P2PU needs to partner with some organizations in order to get certain
accreditation, specifically in areas of technology and engineering,
because you really do need a hands-on approach with some areas of
study in these broad categories of education. And in light of all the
technology being developed and already present at many hackerspaces,
this idea seems feasible.

Because it  can be cumbersome to specialize in more than two specific
areas of education, I propose hackerspace specialize. One hackerspace
could focus on Molecular Biology, another on CS and EE. And because of
this specialization, students would probably be travelling to new
hackerspaces between semesters.

If you're interested in this concept of allowing students a chance tomeet many interesting people, training in well-equipped facilities,and being credited for their work, please toss out your thoughts. :-)


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