Ozemail news
The Raven
Kate Mackenzie
JANUARY 17, 2002
OZEMAIL users are unable to email seven million US internet subscribers
after a large ISP blocked mail from the Australian company.
OzEmail, the country's second-largest ISP with more than half a million
subscribers, has retaliated to the block, saying it is at the forefront of
the fight to implement anti-spamming measures in Australia.
An OzEmail subscriber contacted Australian IT when an email sent to an
account at American ISP NetZero bounced. NetZero offers free and paid
dial-up accounts to more than seven million subscribers.
Last September, Netzero merged with Juno to become United Online. It
is not known if OzEmail messages are also banned on the Juno network, which
boasts another 20 million subscribers.
NetZero spokesman Peter Delgrosso confirmed OzEmail's mail servers had
been blocked due to spam reports.
Mr Delgrosso told Australian IT NetZero staff had made "numerous
inquiries" to OzEmail regarding unsolicited email.
"We have sent them several requests and haven't heard back regarding
this matter. Until this is resolved, emails may be blocked from them to
NetZero users," he said.
"This is very uncommon for us, usually if there is a spam problem with
another ISP it is resolved very quickly."
The OzEmail subscriber said the problem had been occurring for two
months.
"Surely Australia's second largest email provider could solve this
problem," he said.
But OzEmail spokesman David Bathur said the ISP's investigations team
had requested email header information from Netzero in December.
"Most likely the spammer's account has already been terminated,
however we have contacted NetZero again to request the removal of the
block."
He said OzEmail's chief executive officer, Justin Milne, had founded
and chaired the Internet Industry Association's Cybercrime Committee, which
was investigating a new way to prevent repeat spammers using dial-up
accounts.
While ISPs can disconnect corporate customers who run open relay mail
servers, it is much more difficult to prevent abuse from dial-up
subscribers.
Dial-up spammers generally point their temporarily-assigned IP
addresses to open relay mail servers on other networks. The damage can only
be detected once the spam has been sent.
Connect.com.au recently said it would extend its policy of
disconnecting users after eight hours to all points of presence (POPs) after
it discovered a well-known spammer on its network.
Mr Bathur said number identification was a method being looked at as a
way of preventing this type of abuse.
"Access to CLI (Caller Line Identification) has been identified by the
taskforce as being an essential requirement in the spam war," he said.
"When CLI is made available by Telstra, spammers can be identified and
police action can be taken."
ant
"The Raven" <ws...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:a27jek$9q7$1...@otis.netspace.net.au...
> US internet giant blocks OzEmail
> Kate Mackenzie
> JANUARY 17, 2002
>
> OZEMAIL users are unable to email seven million US internet
subscribers
> after a large ISP blocked mail from the Australian company.
>
> OzEmail, the country's second-largest ISP with more than half a
million
> subscribers, has retaliated to the block, saying it is at the forefront of
> the fight to implement anti-spamming measures in Australia.
ROFL
ROFL
ROFL
what drugs are those blokes on and are they avalable on perscription, i get
about 5 ozemail originating spam posts a week into my ozemail box, and funny
how shortly after uunet bought them the amount of personally addressed spam
i recived into the ozemail box increased by a factor of about 8, yet i was
very carefull with where i used that email address, ozemail is actively
helping and protecting the spammers IMO.
> An OzEmail subscriber contacted Australian IT when an email sent to
an
> account at American ISP NetZero bounced. NetZero offers free and paid
> dial-up accounts to more than seven million subscribers.
>
> Last September, Netzero merged with Juno to become United Online. It
> is not known if OzEmail messages are also banned on the Juno network,
which
> boasts another 20 million subscribers.
>
> NetZero spokesman Peter Delgrosso confirmed OzEmail's mail servers
had
> been blocked due to spam reports.
>
and lots of them if the amount of junk comeing out of ozemail servers in the
last couple of months is any indication.
> Mr Delgrosso told Australian IT NetZero staff had made "numerous
> inquiries" to OzEmail regarding unsolicited email.
>
> "We have sent them several requests and haven't heard back regarding
> this matter. Until this is resolved, emails may be blocked from them to
> NetZero users," he said.
>
typical ozemail, quick to uncrate the spin doctors but no actual
response/action to address the issue.
> "This is very uncommon for us, usually if there is a spam problem
with
> another ISP it is resolved very quickly."
>
with telstra as an example its no wonder ozemail is so hopeless. telstra has
been on certain spam block lists for some time thanks to it refuseing to
force certain corporate customers to close their mail servers. corporation
claims the open mail relay is essential to its continued operation, must be
a direct marketing company specailiseing in email delivery :-)
> The OzEmail subscriber said the problem had been occurring for two
> months.
>
> "Surely Australia's second largest email provider could solve this
> problem," he said.
>
> But OzEmail spokesman David Bathur said the ISP's investigations
team
> had requested email header information from Netzero in December.
>
but netzero probably never recived it as ozemail sent it from their default
mail server and as such it was bounced by netzero, funny how ozemail cant
seem to find the information that was sent to them about it and wont reply
to the ISP.
> "Most likely the spammer's account has already been terminated,
> however we have contacted NetZero again to request the removal of the
> block."
>
which will only happen once ozemail actually addresses the problem.
> He said OzEmail's chief executive officer, Justin Milne, had founded
> and chaired the Internet Industry Association's Cybercrime Committee,
which
> was investigating a new way to prevent repeat spammers using dial-up
> accounts.
>
hmm, will belive it when i see something that works.
> While ISPs can disconnect corporate customers who run open relay
mail
> servers, it is much more difficult to prevent abuse from dial-up
> subscribers.
>
> Dial-up spammers generally point their temporarily-assigned IP
> addresses to open relay mail servers on other networks. The damage can
only
> be detected once the spam has been sent.
>
so what is it, was the spam sent from ozemail or do they have open relay
mail servers on the network.
> Connect.com.au recently said it would extend its policy of
> disconnecting users after eight hours to all points of presence (POPs)
after
> it discovered a well-known spammer on its network.
>
how the hell is that going to help reduce spamming, sounds like a cunning
way of limiting traffic and throwing some more money at telstra in local
call charges.
> Mr Bathur said number identification was a method being looked at as
a
> way of preventing this type of abuse.
>
> "Access to CLI (Caller Line Identification) has been identified by
the
> taskforce as being an essential requirement in the spam war," he said.
>
and what of calls that have blocked CLI or are comeing from areas that dont
yet support it?
> "When CLI is made available by Telstra, spammers can be identified
and
> police action can be taken."
>
as if, the coppers are to buisy chaseing plants and useing sniffer dogs on
night club crowds to bother about all of those hard to investigate crimes,
the statistic look better if they bust a few dozzen clubbers then a couple
of spammers.
ant
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