Ihad that same Rowenta iron and loved It ! However, it fell onto my laminate floor and only worked occasionally after that. I had an Oliso iron also, and loved it . It lasted almost 3 years of constant sewing use with occasional spitting , but did not survive a fall onto the same floor. It is the lift system that broke, and the iron was not usable after due to the lift system breaking with half the legs in and half out! I am now using Black and Decker due to the replacement costs of the above irons. I would urge anyone to put a mat near their ironing boards to cushion any potential falls of their irons. My sewing room is now carpet. I always used distilled water in those irons , then I went to a 50/50 mix of tap water and distilled. Despite instructions, the more tap water, the more spit ups !
If effortlessness is the motto in your kitchen, this is the cast iron skillet for you. And if you need something larger than the 8 3/4-inch cooking surface, the No. 10 model offers another inch in diameter while only bumping up the weight by 1.5 pounds.
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It's a niche interest, but I'm always curious about peoples' relationships with their pans, particularly the weight. Some people like or don't mind them heavy, and some need them to be light. Recently, I found myself drawn to a heavy honker from Kuhn Rikon, parking it on the right rear burner of my stove while I tried to figure out where to store the pan before realizing it was already in the perfect spot.
The pan in question is the Swiss manufacturer's Black Star, a 9-pound skillet in the size I tested, with a 24-centimeter cooking surface that's 32 centimeters from rim to rim. It's functional and good-looking, and at just over 9 pounds, it weighs a lot, even compared to the competition. At $250, too, it certainly costs a lot, especially when compared to something like a classic Lodge cast-iron pan, which weighs about a pound less and costs a mere fraction of the import.
I should state here that while I love cooking with cast-iron pans, including my Lodge skillet, I don't treat them as fetish objects. Their level of seasoning comes and goes, but I rarely run into issues with sticking. I wash them with soap and water, which often frightens those fetish people. At least they can relax knowing I'm not an animal who runs mine through the dishwasher.
For example, some pan manufacturers recommend a break-in process, where you sizzle up potato peels with salt, in oil that has a high smoke point. This removes a layer of corrosion protection and begins to season the bottom of the pan, and then you're on your way.
One key difference between the Lodge and the Kuhn Rikon is the incredibly smooth cooking surface on the Black Star. I've read that with use, the more nubbly surface of classic Lodge pans becomes seasoned enough that there's little difference between its nonstick-ness and that of smoother models. That said, smoother always feels cleaner and more luxurious to me, and the Black Star was smoother on the day it arrived then my Lodge has become after years. Right out of the box, I stuck it over a burner and scanned the surface with a thermal camera. Everything looked nice and even as the pan heated, with no notable hot or cool spots.
Leaving a pan on the stove even when they're not in use has probably been a thing since the invention of pans, stoves, and laziness, but doing it with this good-looking, high-performing pan had a great side effect, which is that I cooked more.
Something I enjoyed noticing was how little I used my traditional nonstick pans while I had this one in for months of testing. With that smooth bottom and a slick of butter or oil, I didn't really need a nonstick. Yes, there are recipes where nonstick is the best option, but not that many, and that industry is in tumult. Teflon is on the outs, and ceramic tends not to work as well and wears out fast. On the Kuhn Rikon, if the scramble (or anything) I was cooking stuck a little, I could lean on my thin-bladed metal spatula and scrape the bottom clean without worrying about harming the surface. Easy peasy, no PFAS-zy.
Last summer, I used the pan to make carne asada from the Asada cookbook over a fire, guaranteeing we had the best meal of all the campers in the campground that night. Not a pan to lug into the backcountry, mind you, but lovely to have for breakfast and dinner while car camping.
Back at home, I made Lior Lev Sercarz' take on Persian fesenjan from A Middle Eastern Pantry, taking advantage of the pan's heat retention and conduction to put a hard sear on chicken thighs, then nesting them into caramelized onions, mixed with walnut, pomegranate juice, and pomegranate molasses that had been buzzed together in a blender. I let it all braise away in the oven, flavors mingling, deliciousness increasing.
At the end of summer, I plucked a few handfuls of cherry tomatoes from my garden, halved them along the equator, and sauted them in olive oil. I added some shallots and basil and just let everything cook away for 15 minutes or so, then added a bunch of eggs for a scramble and served that over toast with really good goat cheese on it. Nothing too complex, but completely divine.
Perhaps my favorite feat with the pan was cooking flattened chicken thighs with gin and sage jus from Amy Thielen's masterful Company cookbook, cooking the meat skinside down for what she terms "an interminably long time" and creating a crackly skin that's a mahogany-colored wonder.
One night I stir-fried in it, making a bit of a mess, and scraped up the bottom a bit with a metal-bladed spatula and then went to town with soapy water while cleaning it. While it might not be the best way to treat pans like this, it was completely fine.
It's also worth noting that Kuhn Rikon seems to be putting its money where its mouth is environmentally, particularly concentrating on carbon sequestration in concrete. It's hard to quantify, but having spoken with other people in the industry (or simply noting how they avoid the subject), the company is clearly taking it more seriously than most of the competition.
This pan is a splurge. In no way is it a better value than the Lodge, but the design is more functional and modern, without tipping over into preciousness, and that smooth surface is divine. It's good-looking, but a tool to be used more than admired. Store it right on top of your stove. It'll be the beginning of a beautiful relationship.
GolfWRX and Mizuno deserve a bunch of thanks for allowing me to play and review a bit more than I thought. Mizuno was gracious enough to review not only their JPX 800 HD irons, but also their JPX wedge set and the JPX Fli-Hi Direct Long Iron Replacements (DLR) and the Shaft Optimizer process. A special thanks to Mason Wolf, the Mizuno fitter that took the time to not only show me all the products, but explained what each was designed to do.
Pros:
Irons: Very forgiving irons. You get plenty of confidence when you set up knowing you get plenty of help getting the ball in the air. Plenty of offset, but not as much as others within the category, which was nice.
DLR: (If I call them hybrids, please forgive me, because these are NOT considered hybrids by Mizuno.) These are probably the best part of the set. Very versatile knowing you are getting to finally hit a hybrid that acts and feels like an iron. Not a huge amount of offset, but just enough. Consistent distance.
Overall:
A great effort for a company known more for their players irons than for us high-cappers. They give plenty of help where most of us need it, and that should be welcome for those who need it.
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I thought that everyone on other reviews were just blowing smoke when they said these clubs added 10 or 15 yards per shot. I bought a short set or 7-PW (already had the Hybrid 4,5,and 6 from my JPX 800.)Today I played the back 9 at Swope Memorial in KCMO. My range with my 7 irons is 150 to 158.I hit the HD 178 on the 11th and 183 on the 18th hole. My 120 yard PW went 132 on the 14th hole and 144 on the 15th hole. 8 iron 144 out went 170. Great clubs no joke. Demo one if you can find them worth the investment.
very easy to hit upgrade the shaft if you want a lower ball flight. i went with kbs tour shafts. about 10 yards longer than my old irons. very nice clubs wished the soles were not so wide. over all i give them a 4.3 out of 5
i purchased a set of jpx 800 hd irons recently and was surprised after all the reviews how poorly they performed. Cast clubs are not for me i bought them with out hitting them like a fool, i have hit cast clubs before and found them use less to be honest. the same applies to the hd 800 for me , they sound flat to me no thud in the hit and the balance is not right as well. i am a strong iron player hight and distance wise and can hit a range ball with 8 iron about 160 ,i could not hit this 8 iron more than 140 and it struggled to get high flight.overrated fr me i am affraid to be frank.they went straight on e bay. you live and learn.
I am an 11 handicap golfer and have just brought a set of jpx800 hd golf clubs, looking at most of the reviews it seems to me that these clubs are suitable for a higher handicap player? Is this a fact because the salesman and the local golfpro never said this, I know that i should have checked the reviews before buying the clubs but i have them now,
waiting your reply, thanking you,
s walsh
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