New OxCal user interface

[Christopher Ramsey]

This is to let you all know that there is a new version of the user-interface for OxCal under development and testing. If you would like to try this can be accessed at:

https://c14.arch.ox.ac.uk/oxcalnew/OxCal.html

Your username and password should be the same and you can access all your old files. The main difference is that it is a windowed system allowing you to see the input, outputs and plots in a way which should be familiar from other programs. There are also some bug fixes and enhancements.

The new version will be available for download when it has been tested online for a while.

The help files have not been updated yet - but much of the menu structure should be similar enough to be usable without instructions.

Best wishes

Christopher

[Christopher Ramsey]

Dear all

I intend to switch the main OxCal page over to the new user-interface this weekend. I have made the old interface available on:

https://c14.arch.ox.ac.uk/oxcalold/OxCal.html

in case there are any specific issues arising for people. If there are issues though do also let me know as this legacy version will not be supported long term.

There many be some disruption during the switch-over and so do clear your browser cache if you encounter any difficulties.

I will delay the switch over if I encounter any difficulties but thought it best to warn you all.

Best wishes

Christopher

[Dr Fenner]

I'm still getting used to the new interface, but it looks good. One thing that seems to be missing is the capability of downloading the Order output table to a csv file. On the old interface I could see  the table and then go to File->Save As to download the table. That doesn't work on the new interface. Could a Save button be added?

Thanks,

Jack Fenner

[Christopher Ramsey]

Jack

Thanks for pointing that out - I have added that now. It was also missing for correlation matrices.

Best wishes

Christopher

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[Kate]

Hi Christopher-

FYI, noticed a small bug in Chrome (w Duck Duck Go), in which Raw File reports don't show up empty.  Things look as expected in Firefox (with ranges and yellow box with data in columns).

Kate

[Chris Harpel]

Hi Christopher,

I am just working in the new interface and noticed a minor bug.

When working in the model mode, if you double click on a function or command, like Boundary or Date, to change them, it moves the name to the expression field.  So, for example, Boundary("Stop") becomes Boundary("",Stop).

Cheers,

Chris

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[Christopher Ramsey]

Chris

Many thanks. You were just beaten by someone else who reported the same quirk but on a different command. That should be corrected now.- if you clear your cache and try again it should work as intended.

Best wishes

Christopher

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[Jo Osborn]

Hi Christopher,

The new interface looks great and I am enjoying exploring and learning how to use it. I did find however that on the input screen, if I select tools > curves > atmospheric > SHCal 20, it inserts SHCal 13 instead. Once I noticed I experimented a bit more, and it looks like in each case selecting any curve via tools > curves path will in fact insert the next option down rather than the one selected. It's not an issue if I add a curve through the Option menu. 

Best wishes,

Jo 

[Christopher Ramsey]

Jo

Thanks - yes on testing that was true for the simple atmospheric and bomb curves (the mixed and marine curves were working as expected). I have corrected that now - if you clear your cache it should work properly.

Best wishes

Christopher

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[Susanne Lindauer]

Hi Chris,

I just took s short look. When calibrating, I usually want both ranges, 68 and 94% and entered it like this. But in the table and in the graph it only showed the 95% range. Did I do something wrong? For the customers reports I need both....

Looks nice though! Must have been an aweful lot of work!

Best wishes
Susanne

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[Christopher Ramsey]

Susanne

At the top of either the table window or the plot window there is a menu [Edit > Format] which allows you to set which ranges are shown. If you change it for either it will change for both. The main settings will be remembered from one use of the program to the next - so if you always want both ranges that will be remembered.

The formatting changes in general take immediate effect (there is no refresh button as in the old system). However, when you have finished press [Ok] - if you press [Cancel] it will revert to the settings before the change.

Best wishes

Christopher

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[Susanne Lindauer]

Hi Christopher,

ah, great, it worked. I was only choosing it from the options menu before calibrating the sample, where you enter the R_Date.

Thanks for your quick help.

Best wishes
Susanne



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[Christopher Ramsey]

The options set at the top level only apply to single calibrations - and even then the ranges chosen only affect the log file, This is the same as the [Options] menu on the old system.

The same settings are available under [Tools > Options] for setting up the options for an input file - again the ranges chosen here only apply to the log outputs and the tab delimited file - all are available in the output anyway and can be selected with format.

Best wishes

Christopher

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[Samantha Walker]

Hi Christopher,

I'm sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but in the previous version, I needed to set the atmosphere to 0% in order to use the Marine20 Curve properly. I can't find this option in the new interface, and nothing I've played around with has been able to run the calibrations properly: I select Marine 20, I enter my delta offset, and my modeled date (or dates) are still incorrect (way off from Calib, and nowhere in the range they should be). I would greatly appreciate any guidance on what I'm missing.

Many thanks,

Samantha

[Christopher Ramsey]

See the other thread on marine calibration.

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[Darek Bobak]

Dear Christopher, am I missing something, or the possibility to add an oxygen isotope curve to the plot disappeared?

best wishes,

Darek

[Christopher Ramsey]

Derek

No - you are right - this is the one aspect of the plotting which has not been included yet. I am working on a better solution which takes account of what we know about the differences in the GICC05 and IntCal timescales and which is a bit more flexible. If you need to use this for the moment I suggest reverting to:

https://c14.arch.ox.ac.uk/oxcalold/OxCal.html

The most likely solution will be use of the IntChron integration tool to provide plots on the same timescale and over the same period which can be used with the OxCal plot.

Best wishes

Christopher

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[Darek Bobak]

Christopher, thank you!

best,

Darek