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Meehow

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Jan 21, 2011, 4:19:07 AM1/21/11
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I'm glad to see you guys are getting your kits going. These little
units sure make great battery chargers/desulfators!!!

I keep on running my kit off a Laptop Power supply that I found at a
thrift store. You need to have something like 12V 2A because when
those trannys fire they draw about an AMP!! in their peak.

If you wanna charge faster run it at 24V and see that thing go
backwards in time... hee hee

Also, for the COP testing they have everyone do I think it's better to
have a steady supply so that you eliminate veriables and get exact
readings.... on that note. I haven't really done any COP testing
because I'm having TOO much fun fixing all my friend's batteries....

In order to get this thing to give you free energy you have to run it
in "Self Runner Mode" which means that you take a BIGGG capacitor
that's attached to a bridge rectifier that gets supplied by the genny
coil. Then once in a while you discharge the Cap into the Primary
battery.

You can just get the special kit 15:1 gear reduction wheel with a cap
for only $60 =( from Bedini.

I don't feel like spending that kind of money and I don't like that
idea of moving parts, so I'm building a solid state analogue switching
circuit that will discharge the Cap into the Primary at very specific
intervals.. Been doing some reading of Bedini's Patents on battery
chargers.

hopefully I get good results and if so, I'll post the schematic
however it's advanced.

have fun.

Meehow

radiant rollo

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Jan 22, 2011, 11:52:01 PM1/22/11
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I am going to start in the direction of a bicycle wheel/10 coil. I
noticed at the convention that it looks like a whole lot of filar with
each a corresponding circuit board. Yes I am going to go the circuit
board route.
But here is my question: What size and thickness width by highth
should I use. Maybe measure yours. I want to decide because I can
order them from this "Element 14" supply house and they have lots of
style available
so I have to be specific.
I've also gotta decide which resistors to use. Mine is spinning
around with the trigger wire reversed and is charging but heck there
must be a reason Bedini designed it the other way pnp rather than my
npn.

R.

Meehow

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Jan 26, 2011, 5:10:50 AM1/26/11
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On Jan 22, 8:52 pm, radiant rollo <prodush...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am going to start in the direction of a bicycle wheel/10 coil.  I
> noticed at the convention that it looks like a whole lot of filar with
> each a corresponding circuit board.  Yes I am going to go the circuit
> board route.
> But here is my question:  What size and thickness width by highth
> should I use.  Maybe measure yours.  I want to decide because I can
> order them from this "Element 14" supply house and they have lots of
> style available
> so I have to be specific.

I don't know, usually I just get some standard size PCB's available at
Radio Shack.
If I know I'm gonna be working with chips then I get the board that
has power supply
buss lines running down the middle. And if I know my circuit is gonna
be a bunch of random
parts then I just get a generic board with individual holes.

For this kit I used a 2" X 4" board with supply buss lines because I
knew I was going to
put all the transistors in line and make one buss the Trigger and the
other buss a ground.

In your case I would go with longer but thin and with those buss
lines.


> I've also gotta decide which resistors to use.  Mine is spinning
> around with the trigger wire reversed and is charging but heck there
> must be a reason Bedini designed it the other way pnp rather than my
> npn.

I don't know Rollo. I'm pretty sure with this kit he uses an NPN
transistor.
Unless you are talking about some other design, in which case I would
love to see the schematic for that.
Can you post it if that's the case?

Peace.

rolf watness

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Jan 26, 2011, 11:37:38 AM1/26/11
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Thankyou.
 
On MPS8099 it says "voltage and current are negative for PNP"  I really don't get what they mean most of the time.  More study.  I presupposed that it is triggered by a positive charge but they say negative.  The MJE3055T that I have made to spin it after switching my Trigger coil wires around is a NPN.  I've got to study what the diff is between PNP and NPN.  Bedini calls for PNP but I got it spinning with NPN.
I wonder how that affects the resistor lay out or need.  I am charging but the batteries I have are not worth it.  Frozen in their life.  Dead cell.  I can't claim anything with wrong variables.
Have you been keeping up on the Overunity Research site?  Man! they hammer Bedini and Koorn et al.  I'm beginning to wonder myself.  I think it was this guy Humbugger that got up during the conference and was basically confrontational and irritating.  He has a Brain however and I wonder if we are "Moonies."  I will continue research on my own of course.

Meehow

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Jan 27, 2011, 2:01:48 AM1/27/11
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Hi Rolf.

Trigger coil:

regardless if you think it's reverse or forward, you have to have it
wired such that there is a positive potential developed to the Base of
the NPN transistor after the magnet starts moving away from the coil.

Transistor:

I still don't understand where this PNP idea is coming from, and would
really like it if someone posted any Bedini diagram that uses that
kind of transistor. I know for a FACT that this kit doesn't use PNP
trannys and any documents I look up for the MJE3055T or MPS8099 all
say those are NPN type.

To be honest though, PNP are rare creatures. I have a college text
book that tells me about 50 pages on the NPN transistor and then when
it comes to the PNP on half a page it gives a little schematic and
says all the potentials are pretty much backwords!!!! how's that for
information. In standard electronics, which everyone in school is
taught, 99% of all the circuits are pretty much with some positive and
ground and therefore if any transistors are used they are almost
always NPN. The only time I ever see PNP is in some hi-fi audio amp
schematic, or some schematic of the inner workings of an OPAMP or
logic gate.

Overunity Site:

are you refering to energeticforum.com? if so then NO..... maybe I
didn't set up my auto-mail-reply properly or something but I haven't
gotten any reply to any of my questions from that site... so I don't
bother.
the official bedini_monopole3 group however, is really good and they
have been answering most of my questions very patiently and Rick him
self even answered some of my questions in rather lengthy replies. So,
I like that group. Lots to learn from them, especially once your kit
is running; they will help answer some basic questions regarding the
proper testing and tuning and such.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bedini_monopole3/

Bedini:

I can kind of understand some people hammering Bedini and company.
Afterall, the kit had no proper schematic, no PCB, no detailed
instructions (mind you the video was ok)... so yeah, there is a
certain lack of standard professionalism but at the end of the day
who's got a self running motor?

And speaking of self running motor! I've worked long and hard on
different circuits to get that capacitor to "back-pop" the energy into
the primary battery. It's difficult but it can be done... I haven't
succeded yet in having the unit be self-running.

right now my attention is in building a golf cart battery charger
based on this technology.



On Jan 26, 8:37 am, rolf watness <prodush...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thankyou.
>
> On MPS8099 it says "voltage and current are negative for PNP"  I really
> don't get what they mean most of the time.  More study.  I presupposed that
> it is triggered by a positive charge but they say negative.  The MJE3055T
> that I have made to spin it after switching my Trigger coil wires around is
> a NPN.  I've got to study what the diff is between PNP and NPN.  Bedini
> calls for PNP but I got it spinning with NPN.
> I wonder how that affects the resistor lay out or need.  I am charging but
> the batteries I have are not worth it.  Frozen in their life.  Dead cell.  I
> can't claim anything with wrong variables.
> Have you been keeping up on the Overunity Research site?  Man! they hammer
> Bedini and Koorn et al.  I'm beginning to wonder myself.  I think it was
> this guy Humbugger that got up during the conference and was basically
> confrontational and irritating.  He has a Brain however and I wonder if we

radiant rollo

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Jan 28, 2011, 8:28:48 PM1/28/11
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My 3-pole spins and charges.
The forum I was refering to is overunityresearch.com. It has a few
people that will not say anything nice about the Bedini rigs. It is
good to have both sides.
I am looking to get 6v golfcart batteries as well. Problem here is
to find ones that have not frozen.
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Jan 28, 2011, 9:27:25 PM1/28/11
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Rolf,
 
Congratulations!
 
Steve
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