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Marc Hall - ISINYONI

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Nov 21, 2007, 12:51:25 AM11/21/07
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In preparation of tomorrow’s departure, the bike was all packed and ready to go on Monday evening, so yesterday needing to go into Bryanston, I decided to use it, just to get used to the balance and weight etc.

 

Bike stood there in the sun for about 45 mins. Got home last night and opened the right pannier to add a bottle of tabard and the smell of fuel raised alarm. In that pannier is [was] my sleeping bag, self inflating mattress, tent, gas cooker and light + my 1 litre alum fuel bottle - full. The bottle had burst, and fuel got absorbed into sleeping bag and mattress. Both are now “toast”!!!  Me off to Outdoor W/H this morning to replace L

 

 

Marc Hall

ISINYONI Africa

www.isinyoni.co.za

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Francois Visagie

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Nov 21, 2007, 1:58:38 AM11/21/07
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Eish. At least be grateful that happened "at home". I'm not familiar with carrying fuel that way, but clearly things got too hot - maybe you should consider alternatives?
 
Regards,
Francois


From: overlan...@googlegroups.com [mailto:overlan...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Hall - ISINYONI
Sent: 21 November 2007 07:51
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Subject: [Overland] a bad day!

In preparation of tomorrow's departure, the bike was all packed and ready to go on Monday evening, so yesterday needing to go into Bryanston, I decided to use it, just to get used to the balance and weight etc.

 

Bike stood there in the sun for about 45 mins. Got home last night and opened the right pannier to add a bottle of tabard and the smell of fuel raised alarm. In that pannier is [was] my sleeping bag, self inflating mattress, tent, gas cooker and light + my 1 litre alum fuel bottle - full. The bottle had burst, and fuel got absorbed into sleeping bag and mattress. Both are now "toast"!!!  Me off to Outdoor W/H this morning to replace L

 


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A.H. (Eric) Sommer

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Nov 21, 2007, 2:03:15 AM11/21/07
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Marc:

 

Trick we used to do for hiking.

 

Fill bottle 85% - 90% full

Leave in very hot spot with lid not quite tight (so expanding gas can escape)

Then close tightly.

 

As it cools, it creates a very tight seal and as it was packaged when very warm (hot) can take the expansion you might get exposing it to sunlight for a few hours.

 

Cheers

Aubrey

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Nov 21, 2007, 2:04:05 AM11/21/07
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Good thing it happened at home ....... on the road is could be a real hassle. First time I have heard one of those fuel bottles going south. What make?

Aubrey

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Nov 21, 2007, 2:06:45 AM11/21/07
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Reality ...apart from making you feel good, does little to help. Fuel is a very volatile and easily converst to gas, that's why it's used. I agree with don't overfill as you need to leave a gap for gas to expand. Read the instructions ...leaving it in a hot spot open vaporises fuel and does nothing to prevent pressure build up.

Marc Hall - ISINYONI

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Nov 21, 2007, 2:19:23 AM11/21/07
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The thread female side of the thread ring is crimped into the neck of the alum bottle.  This entire ring burst thru the crimp. Will take thru to Dros this avvie. Bottle is stamped as being a 1 liter cap, but this level is on the thread. I probably had about 800 – 850 ml inside (which is good for 20 – 22k’s at 100km/h).

 

mh


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A.H. (Eric) Sommer

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Nov 21, 2007, 2:42:23 AM11/21/07
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Marc:

 

If it was petrol, then better to fill completely with WARM fuel.

No air, can’t turn to gas, stays liquid!

 

:0

Francois Visagie

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Nov 21, 2007, 2:48:55 AM11/21/07
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So, cook your fuel first?
 
;-)


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A.H. (Eric) Sommer

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Nov 21, 2007, 3:03:39 AM11/21/07
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>> So, cook your fuel first?

 

No silly – just make sure it is not cold (then it wants to expand)

 

Of course, putting fuel in direct sunlight is not a bright idea anyway – one spark .....

 

J

 

Best is to have a container that can expand it’s walls, ie: a square container. Round is already at optimum shape.

 

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Marc Hall - ISINYONI

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Nov 21, 2007, 3:10:34 AM11/21/07
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Actually carried like this quite a few times using this bottle.  Must’ve weakened over time.

 

mh


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Paul Oxley

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Nov 21, 2007, 4:34:04 AM11/21/07
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Jeez, that was a piece of good fortune!
 
Always used to justify breaking the company's safari Landies at the quarry to my wife because it's waaaay better to break whatever's liable to break close to home. Imagine if this had of happened day after tomorrow...

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Paul Oxley

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Nov 21, 2007, 4:37:34 AM11/21/07
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Corse it could be a bit of a bugger to open early in the morning (when you may desperately need it) ;-{)}
 

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Paul Oxley
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Francois Visagie

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Nov 21, 2007, 4:35:31 AM11/21/07
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But what about the stuff you damaged unawares that hasn't quite broken yet...
 
;-)


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Jeez, that was a piece of good fortune!
 
Always used to justify breaking the company's safari Landies at the quarry to my wife because it's waaaay better to break whatever's liable to break close to home. Imagine if this had of happened day after tomorrow...

Regards



Paul Oxley
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From: overlan...@googlegroups.com [mailto:overlan...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Hall - ISINYONI
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Subject: [Overland] a bad day!

In preparation of tomorrow's departure, the bike was all packed and ready to go on Monday evening, so yesterday needing to go into Bryanston, I decided to use it, just to get used to the balance and weight etc.

 

Bike stood there in the sun for about 45 mins. Got home last night and opened the right pannier to add a bottle of tabard and the smell of fuel raised alarm. In that pannier is [was] my sleeping bag, self inflating mattress, tent, gas cooker and light + my 1 litre alum fuel bottle - full. The bottle had burst, and fuel got absorbed into sleeping bag and mattress. Both are now "toast"!!!  Me off to Outdoor W/H this morning to replace L

 

Marc Hall - ISINYONI

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Nov 21, 2007, 4:51:34 AM11/21/07
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Dumped goods:-

 

Sleeping Bag (new)  R1100-; Matttress    R850- ;

Q-Bond / Pratleys Putty, insulation & Duct Tape, Gas Mantles, Tube Patches, Gators, Air Filter ; First Aid kit  R500- ????

 

 

mh


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Sent: 21 November 2007 11:36
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But what about the stuff you damaged unawares that hasn't quite broken yet...

 

;-)

 

 

 


Mike Lauterbach

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Nov 21, 2007, 4:55:01 AM11/21/07
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Shows you how expensive one litre of petrol is...
 
Cheers
Mike


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Francois Visagie

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Nov 21, 2007, 5:22:58 AM11/21/07
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Sorry about that loss, but I was actually pulling Paul Oxley's leg with reference to him expediting the breaking of things at the quarry before going on more demanding trips.

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