RE: Plummer Park Sunset Hall - Will NOT work for us!

[shane que hee]

John:

He is Juan Risuleo at ris...@att.net


....Shane Que Hee, June 14 2014
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At 02:48 PM 6/12/2014, you wrote:

Bill,
 
Okay - I will send out letter tomorrow to WEHO and phone.
 If I can avoid having to go to City Council meeting that would be best, because of my wage job hours.
 
Shane,
 
Can you give me the name and contact address of the person who marched with us.
We might need him as being in WEHO (a business), to enable us to get the park places (just in case)
 
 
I will NOT be able to get together before the G G speaking event, due to tasks with Tom.
I hope to be there just before 7PM.
 
 

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CC: squ...@ucla.edu
From: purp...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Plummer Park Sunset Hall - Will NOT work for us!
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:59:52 -0700
To: causeco...@msn.com

Hi job
I think you shd move ASAP with weho
I just attended the play reading fest at Plummer park at the community building in the front
The room that the readings were in was big enough for your exhibits and locked
I remember this building was where mazer hosted the archivists conference
If celebrity names are friends of yours go for it and you can determine your own events and schedule ASAP
I am foot activist available to work and transport and I am not frail and can help set up and carry
You shd set up your program block out times and such do you can present to weho
You shdnt wait until June 19th but we should meet before the event to talk and eat as early as you and Shane want
I suggest we meet at the Japanese America theatre and look for a place then since no one knows the area for food places say at 400 pm or so since event is at 7 pm and bound to be crowded
Peace
Bill

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On Jun 11, 2014, at 7:51 PM, John Obrien <causeco...@msn.com > wrote:

Bill,

 

Perhaps if you or Shane have location sites that would work better than the

Weho parks, then we could meet briefly around the Glen G speaking event.

However, I want to move quickly and invite specific groups to join us on

this annual October History & Cultural Festival.  And some of the groups you

suggested, would not be my first to ask. 

 

Thanks for your input - but I personally prefer to have intellectual stimulation of authors

that have ideas and knowledge.  I hope you share perspective of a goal for offering

an alternative to the booze/drug party that CSW promotes with their focus on

corporate consumerism.  [And for all people no matter their income or age,

by not serving alcohol, youth and also those recovering from substance abuse

can be joyfully welcomed to be a part of this alternative community.]  As for

sexual content, I believe you can have some imagination and do not need

to have nudity and sex will be discussed, but not just dumbing down further

the community participants.  I would favor what I did years ago in having

one panel of actual sex worker "stars" who would be there to promote

issues and events - and yes ideas and hopes for the future.   But I do not

think this panel should be in the first year!

 

The upstairs room above the West Hollywood Auditorium is both dirty, small

and not wheel chair accessible.  The stage in the auditorium may still not be

wheelchair accessible, so no scheduled panels or exhibits can be generally

held there - only possible non-wheelchair performers/artists.

 

I would like to have one or two televisions to show documentaries as a part

of the exhibit, whether in the West Hollywood Park Auditorium or in Plummer

Park.  And I want security for the exhibit and thus your suggestion to have

panels in those areas, probably would not work well.

 

CSW (and Ivy Bottini too) have as their real message to our people: Accept and Adapt

 

I was on the first pride committee when Ivy was still in the closet and

before Rodney and others in the current CSW were ever involved.  The

first pride committee was to not only celebrate Stonewall and fighting back -

but to: offer an alternative to the bars, police and established order and instead

promote achievement and change and not acceptance. The words we used were

freedom and liberation - something deliberately removed in language by those

wanting only acceptance with the existing power structure.

 

That will be the theme I hope for the annual History & Cultural Heritage Festival.

I believe it will find a nitch and people interested.  I prefer panels of history writers

and creative cultural artists.  And I believe it is a mistake to have multiple speaker

panel events in the same one room - and why tents can provide this logistic problem

for this year and if necessary next year's exhibit, panels and festival.

 

The panels are not difficult.  One in mid day, followed by a second set.  They be

authors and activists with ideas to share in different forms whether in book form

or cultural artist presentations.  I also prefer quality and professional artists and

not cause insult to the audience seeking and deserving a good time that empowers

all attending. There are many low quality to awful entertainers, who seek any

venue for "performing".  I think it would not be too difficult for us to be picky.

Better only one good act/performance than several poor/bad ones.  Let the

professionals see if we can get known progressive entertainers.  Lily Tomlin

might want to help and there are many others.  LA has many cultural workers

and many are well known celebrities. A well known celebrity figure will help

make this event successful.  So if you have a big name to approach that would

be very helpful - and worth more than staffing a dozen upcoming literature

table settings at events to promote this October festival.     

 

By obtaining the City of West Hollywood as a sponsor, does not mean we must

give control to those wanting to put on racist or sexist presentations. I consider

pro-Zionist as equated to racism, so that would leave Lavender Effect out -

correct?  Others have their own events and never ask us to give our political views,

so why can we not have a mainly progressive event which guarantees keeping

the dumbing down and corporate control not at the center, unlike what Ivy and

the Gay Inc's want.   

 

I understand you will not be able to do anything around the physical needs of this

event, whether setting up tables and chairs, or booking speakers or getting many of

the sponsors.  But perhaps you will get excited and have more energy and time

next year.

 

 I see the first year as laying the foundation (and not one which has to be under

liberal/conservative control.)  I will set up the history exhibits on Thursday and

do the physical work a day ahead of the Friday opening.  If you feel you can not

chair any panel and introduce any speakers/panelists, then I understand your

energy and time is limited and respect as such.  I believe there are many creative

people in Los Angeles and those willing to come participate from elsewhere, that

we do not need CSW and the Gay Inc crowd and of course those posing to be

"progressive" - but just want us to actually accept and adapt to authority,

corporate control and not liberation.

 

OAW will have only one workshop - that hopefully on Africa, with exposing what

companies, governments and individuals are involved with supporting homophobic

and dictatorial governments in that continent.  There is only Saturday with two or

three different sessions during that day.  Friday is the cultural entertainment and

the historical exhibits.  If we can get a different second panel on alternatives to

militarism, that would be great.  But who would we have speaking on that?  I

will be busy with the exhibit and not able to chair or speak at this or the other

panel.  I can suggest some known open LGBT antiwar activists - I would love to

invite Joan Baez for this panel or her group.  Also Holly Near or my friend

Mandy Carter.  I have several "celebrity" friends and "big name activists". 

 

So I would like us to come to agreement quickly, so I can send letters to the

City of West Hollywood.   I may be able to get some big celebrity names to

be sponsors.  Perhaps George Takei, etc.  This region is loaded with name

celebrities - and some are open LGBT progressives!!!

 

 

   

 

 

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CC: squ...@ucla.edu

From: purp...@aol.com

Subject: Re: Plummer Park Sunset Hall - Will NOT work for us!

Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 15:09:58 -0700

To: causeco...@msn.com

Hi job

I'm back

We discussed this a lot

The Plummer park has that community building that might be used for the exhibits but if renovations on fiesta hall are just starting it will never be available in October

With west Hollywood park auditorium for exhibits couldn't they be on the edged and big lectures speakers in the rest of the auditorium

Other events could be held in the library in the city council chambers and I think they have several other smaller rooms upstairs

Sometimes if events are sponsored by city there is free parking at the library structure

I'm thinking that there isn't much time for oct and you should have fewer events

One possibility is Ian mackinnon s

Hist orgy he now has a part 4 and was sponsored by wh in the past so sexy parts should be ok

Also Jeanne cordobas lex group had done history things at the models of pride

There are many performers we might get who can do solo shows that require little tech problems

I know you don't

 want to lose control but mazer, one or the lavender effect or don kilhefners elders group might do seminars or presentations

We are doing to the Glenn g talk soon

Maybe can meet before to talk good you are moving on it hope new computer is up snd working

Peace

B

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On Jun 11, 2014, at 8:12 AM, John Obrien <causeco...@msn.com > wrote:

Bill & Shane,

FOR YOUR EYES ONLY - DO NOT SHARE WITH OTHERS

As I was preparing to send our proposal to the WH City Council,

I decided to check the renovation plan for Plummer Park and

was saddened to see that the Fiesta Hall plan is to put in a

stadium seating space - that removes the existing floor space

for exhibit space!

While there appears changes being still made to the "Master Plan"

from local neighborhood resident feedback (and you should see the

images of only hetero couples and kids in the plan!!! - do a google search:

West Hollywood Plummer Park Renovation.

This puts us in either pressuring the current Council to change the

plans to have an exhibit space (which would not be easy with the

hetero architectural firm they contracted with (but perhaps not

impossible depending how far along the plan is)

Or - finding another space - either in West Hollywood, or Los Angeles.

Can you suggest alternatives? I plan to look at LACC and LA Trade Tech

this week, in hopes that perhaps the Community College trustees can

provide the space for free - and why we wanted the WH park as our

site, to save costs .  Possibly UCLA might work, if the student group

is a sponsor there, or that University Library's Mazer Collection?

We do not want USC, since it is a private entity and influenced too

much by financial/political concerns this proposed annual festival

could cause.

 

My plan was to send the WH Council members the proposal for

hosting at Plummer Park a yearly LGBT History & Cultural Festival,

to be held on the second weekend of October.   The problem of

little public space for exhibits is what we face.   I am confident

that we can get the WH Council majority to support this annual

festival, but without exhibit space - this becomes an obstacle - and

we may have to turn to the city of Los Angeles instead - but where

would people feel comfortable to attend and be accessible and

affordable?  LATC has less appeal, even if easily accessible with the

new Expo Culver City Train Line stopping right there, or some hotel

in downtown or even the Athletic Club space near the Metro Train

Line, but no auto public parking in this car city (a real problem)  And

LACC's main hall does not complete its construction until Dec. 2014!!

 

Is there another venue in West Hollywood that would work -

which has separate meeting rooms for various speaker panels

and a large secure space for exhibits? The Director's Guild has

several room spaces, but I do not believe it has a large secure well

lit exhibit space.  We might have to turn to the city providing tents

either for Plummer Park or West Hollywood Park.  It seems the

most cost effective, but wanted to get your input before I proceed

-and I want to proceed quickly to get this Oct. 10-11, the space for

that LGBT History & Cultural Festival. [This would be two days -

with next year going to three days that includes Sunday.  This year

my wage job schedule does not make Sunday possible for me]

 

West Hollywood Park has an indoor well lit auditorium for the

exhibit space, but tents would be needed for the speaker panels

and workshop meeting spaces.  In Plummer Park there would be

rooms for speaker panels and meeting workshops, but a large

tent would be needed for the exhibit space.  I lean towards

Plummer Park with the new parking garage plan and newer

clean meeting spaces than the old darker WH Auditorium  -

but a secure indoor exhibit space does appeal to me!!

[John Obrien]

Thank You!
 
John

 

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 06:43:25 -0700
To: causeco...@msn.com
From: squ...@ucla.edu
Subject: RE: Plummer Park Sunset Hall - Will NOT work for us!

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