Storytellers' Chronicles 1 - Management

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[Khannea Suntzu]

Other interesting questions are

1 - what is the history of emergence of this computronium. Are there
'antedeluvian' era's where Computronium was different? Was there an
early age inside the Noosphere?

2 - are there realms inside the Noosphere that are different in
fundamental character because the Computronium is different? What if
there are several, or many types of Computronium, dictated by material
constraints, energy constraints, temperature gradients. Computronium
would emerge and function according to topography. How would the
localization of 'server farms' on a planet, in an orbital plane, on
asteroids in space makes a difference?

3 - what if there is a geogrpahy of noosphere dictated by cross talk
speed, ping, retention, lag - because operation is so fast that lag
becomes a major factor.

4 - what if fundamental propgramming languuage in noosphere is
irrevocable, an an impediment. Different operating systems (COS) would
create operational conflict. What if those 'with other programming
bases' do not want to relinquish betamax? ..and them using betamax
affects you ?

5 - what if the existence inside computronium turns out to be, over
the long run, just as scarcity based as material existence. If you
start from that premise, how can you create an interesting story? If
this constraint is based on computronium composition - that would be
funny. But what if it's even more based on - energy gradient. Cooling.

:)

[Michael Hrenka]

Thanks for your really interesting questions and ideas, Khannea. I've found out about this message too late, because I don't check my Googlemail account very often (now I want to check it daily).

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Khannea Suntzu <khannea...@gmail.com> wrote:

Other interesting questions are

1 - what is the history of emergence of this computronium. Are there
'antedeluvian' era's where Computronium was different? Was there an
early age inside the Noosphere?

Yes, the earlist forms of computronium appeared during the Destiny Conflict around the Technological Singularity. The Destiny Conflict was some kind of cold war in which several parties strived for dominance by developing ever better nanotechnology and artificial intelligence. The late period of the Destiny Conflict saw an extreme technological explosion and an immense increase in the performance of computronium (there was some kind of Noosphere at that time, but it was pretty divided into several subnets for different factions). After the Foundation, the technology was improved radically again and femtotech came into the play. Because of several problems with femtotech (for example insane energy requirements), that technology is mostly used in close orbits around the sun, but not so much in the rest of the solar system. In the time of Storytellers' Chronicles the technology is already so advanced that further improvements are exceedingly rare (and mostly quite exotic). 

2 - are there realms inside the Noosphere that are different in
fundamental character because the Computronium is different? What if
there are several, or many types of Computronium, dictated by material
constraints, energy constraints, temperature gradients. Computronium
would emerge and function according to topography. How would the
localization of 'server farms' on a planet, in an orbital plane, on
asteroids in space makes a difference?

Around the sun nuclear computronium (so called nucleotronium) is used, which is insanely fast, but has inconvenient memory issues (see this blog post: http://deathrant.net/wordpress/?p=189 ). The computronium in the rest of the solar system is not so fast and more diverse. There are types that are good at high temperatures and types that are very good at extremely low temperatures. Material constraints could sometimes be a problem, but the economy is good enough to provide at least all inner planets with sufficient materials for pretty good computronium. In some asteroids more exotic types of computronium may be used, which have some advantages, but not really radical ones. The biggest problems are energy and overheating. In the outer solar system people have to use very low energy densities for their computronium and use reversive computing excessively (the biggest amounts of energy are used for changing the structure of the local computronium). In general, the further away you get from the sun, the more of a problem the lack of energy gets. Overheating could appear if computronium runs at full speed (which is pretty damn extreme fast) for a longer time (like for whole microseconds). Therefore there are lots of rules and guidelines that prevent the danger of overheating (a dread which is slightly comparable to todays fear of terrorism). 

 

3 - what if there is a geogrpahy of noosphere dictated by cross talk
speed, ping, retention, lag - because operation is so fast that lag
becomes a major factor.

Yes, those factors are pretty dominant in the world of SC. People can run their minds at different speeds, but higher speeds create the problem that less information gets to the mind in the same time than for minds at slower speeds (yes, the experience of lag becomes really existential in that world). In small celestial bodies like asteroids it is more comfortable to run at higher speeds, because the community of the celestial body is located in a smaller volume. For planetary fast-timers the effect of lag is comparable to the situation that all data had to be transported by planes (relatively fast, but very far away from the speed of light). The slower the speed of your mind is, the less lag becomes for you. Lag between the different celestial bodies is rather extreme, so that subjective years (or millenia) can pass for fast-timers before they get an answer to a message to another planet. A usual solution for these problems is that most minds run on much slower speeds than they could afford and speed themselves up occasionally if they need more time for themselves or want to spend a lot of time within small communities.

 

4 - what if fundamental propgramming languuage in noosphere is
irrevocable, an an impediment. Different operating systems (COS) would
create operational conflict. What if those 'with other programming
bases' do not want to relinquish betamax? ..and them using betamax
affects you ?

Yeah, such situations could arise. Therefore the pressure to create universal norms for hard- and software is pretty high. Usually so high that adherents of more exotic programming languages finally decide to flee to small asteroids where they can create their tiny betamax empire. Don't spend to much time on the Lisp asteroids of you will start thinking in parentheses! ;)

 

5 - what if the existence inside computronium turns out to be, over
the long run, just as scarcity based as material existence. If you
start from that premise, how can you create an interesting story? If
this constraint is based on computronium composition - that would be
funny. But what if it's even more based on - energy gradient. Cooling.

:)

Yes, on saturated celestial bodies scarcity becomes a real problem, because they are really crammed with virtual minds in computronium. If you want to escape scarcity forever, you will have to ride on the wave of planetary and interstellar expansion of the Domain of Life. But because of superintelligence, superrationality and superfun the problems of scarcity can be solved in waaaaaay better ways than today. And in principle, you can chose how much socialism or market competition you want to have by joining the topes and locations that suit your needs best. But the really extreme systems can be found at the rim of the solar system - the colonization missions to other star systems are huge collaborative efforts and have to fulfill very strict requirements, which makes it very unlikely that radical people have a chance to participate in such a mission.

Ok, I hope you are happy with my answers. If not, please complain. And please send me more questions. They are tasty to me :D

[Robert Batts]

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You answered this with your RL name……

[Robert Batts]

You have been quiet today,

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[Michael Hrenka]

Huh, yes. I don't understand these Google settings. Anyway, it's irrelevant. My RL and SL identities are no mystery and they aren't supposed to be really secret. Both of my names have the initials MH, so it's pretty easy to remember the correspondence of my identities.

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[Archmage Atlantis]

Yea, I’m the same….but I seem to be developing some paranoia…..