Router Access Point Setup

[Daria]

SoI have the newst Comcast modem (TG3482G) which is a modem/router combo and I have a Nighthawk R9000. I want the Comcast modem/router combo to send a WiFi signal to the downstairs, and I want the Nighthawk set in access point mode to send a WiFi signal upstairs, for the Comcast one is not strong enough to cover both neither is the R9000.

Now when you set up the Nighthawk in access point mode you type in you SSID and password from the one given by comcast and it then suggest that you disable the WiFi on the comcast router so it doesn't interfear with the Nighthawks access point.

My question is why do I have to turn off my Comcast's WiFi, other then "it will just interfear"? When you set the Nighthawk into access point mode it disables the routers functions, so what is the interfearance? Why cant I have both enabled? I need both inorder to cover my whole house (range extendes don't do the job).

I expercenced the consiqueses by having both WiFi's enabled and something happens behind the sence causes the WiFi to jam and not work in total. I assume both decives tried to hand out the same IP or somthing and just caused a jam?

Shouldn't you be able to have Comcast be the main router that send out a WiFi signal, and have an access point connected via ethernet to "extend" the signal in a different area, so its almost like one big mesh network that people can go from room to room and roam with easy? If so how? In addition I have a second R9000 which I would like to use in my basement in access point mode, how can I add this to the mix without jamming eveything up?

Most of my wifi clients happily handover between sources without me noticing. (I have two separate networks in the house and in my separate office.) I use different SSIDs so that I know which one I am connected to. I use the same password because it is easier to remember.

I did that as stated in the 2nd paragraph, it was setup in access point mode with the same SSID and passwords as the promary ISP router. And with both having WiFi enabled it caused the jam, I had to turn off the primary ISP's router's WiFi off as Netgear suggested. But I need both on without it jamming the WiFi.

When I say "jam" basically what happens so the WiFi is working as normal, but at one point in time the WiFi just stops moving no traffic in or out, the only way to resolve this is to restart the nighthawk. I can only assume that the gateways router and the nighthawk router are trying to give/recive the same infomation from one decive and the routers are fighting over the information causing the traffic to stop completly until rebot.

But leading off what you said I am having trouble understanding the purpose of an SSID now. I always interperted the SSID as just a label you give the router/access point for the user to know what they are conneting to and for the client to give it a more readable name. How does changing the SSID allow WiFi clients to seamlessy connect without interfearance? Would the wavelength not be the only determinate that causes the issue, not the SSID for the clients don't care what the SSID is?

Well, many consumer devices don't support seamless roaming, e.g. supported by 802.11k (information list about neighboring AP channel and more) and 802.11r (Fast Basic Service Set Transition, FT). All this can work efficiently only if the same SSID is configured on all radio access points (router, WAP, ...). If some of these standards are in place, the industry does lazily define this as a wireless "Mesh" network.

I always interperted the SSID as just a label you give the router/access point for the user to know what they are conneting to and for the client to give it a more readable name. How does changing the SSID allow WiFi clients to seamlessy connect without interfearance? Would the wavelength not be the only determinate that causes the issue, not the SSID for the clients don't care what the SSID is?

Not that bad, but not ideal - there is however not much of a choice: The number of available channels is much to low. Sophisticated home and business class (typically dozens to hundreds of WiFi clients in the range of multiple APs) or large venue public WiFi installations designed for the-thousands of clients have many many AP operating on the same channel sets.

Going off of this, the R8000 (just realized I've put this under R9000 but I have an R8000) only support 802.11ac, and since it does not support 802.11k and or 802.11r, the R8000 cannot be settup as an access point with the same SSID and password to create one large WiFi network that works like a "mesh" network that these large venues / business have?

I am basically trying to create a network like you'd see in a business or large venue where you see dozens of access points all with the same SSID and password so a client can go anywhere in the venue and be connected without this interfearance jamming the network. Is this not possible with the R8000?

I am basically trying to create a network like you'd see in a business or large venue where you see dozens of access points all with the same SSID and password so a client can go anywhere in the venue and be connected without this interfearance jamming the network.

The nearest thing to what you want is probably the Orbi stuff. Its implementation uses single SSIDs and passwords and handles the handover stuff internally. It even manages to avoid trhe interference that bugs you.

I suspect the venues you are thinking about have gone the next level up from consumer grade. My network is expandable with AP's as many as I want, with in reason of course, but it is not consumer grade. Does require Ethernet cables run to the AP's.

Makes sense will look into Orbi. But as for the R8000 is that basically dust now? There isn't a way to make just one R8000 as an access point, with same SSID/password as the gateway with having both the gateway and R8000 WiFi bands on at the same time to create one seamless WiFi that clients can auto-switch when in range of the stronger WiFi?

I've set my router up in Access Point mode (so that I can connect it to a wifi cable modem whose wifi has broken). Now I can't get to my WNDR3700v4 router login page. I've tried doing it over wife and by connecting ethernet cable straight from my computer to my WNDR3700v4. www.routerlogin.net doesn't work, nor www.routerlogin.com. No luck with 10.0.0.1, 10.0.0.2, 10.0.0.15, ( or

Really, the only reason I wanted to get back to the router login is so that I could have the device check for software updates in light of today's security flaw discovery. There must be some way to get this router to check for a software update (without completely resetting it to factory defaults)!

Most of the technological stuff you wrote went over my head. But it sounded like you were saying that the solution to this problem is for me to have set this up differently from the start...that I there's no way I can access the router login page now with it in its current configuration...that I have to reset and reinstall the Netgear wifi router. Is that correct?

FYI, I set up this router using its automated setup process. During that process it recommended I select "Access Point Mode." But I don't recall that it guided me to selecting a static IP address or anything else that sounds similar to what you wrote. I'm not saying you're incorrect. Just that the automated procedure didn't guide me to it, thus (apparently) leaving me with no way to ever access the router login again.

> [...] there's no way I can access the router login page now with it in

> its current configuration [...]

No, but you need to find it before you can talk to it by its address.

> [...] The easiest way to determine its address would be to ask the

> cable modem+router about its DHCP clients (Attached Devices, DHCP

> Clients, or some equivalent thing).

I know approximately nothing about your cable modem+router, so I

can't offer any specific procedure to get the desired information from

it.

This totally worked. I downloaded and installed Advanced IP Scanner, ran a scan, found a line in the output that seemed to match my NETGEAR router, went to that address, entered the default name/password, and I was into Genie. Fantastic!

FYI, to anyone else out there with this problem (and it looked from my scans of the message boards that there were a few): the computer on which I ran the scan was connected by ethernet cable to the cable modem, not the access point and not wirelessly. I don't know if this would or would not find/connect to the NETGEAR router in access point mode if I had connected differently.

I rent a modem/router combo from Spectrum. My house is not huge (1600 sq ft), but there are rooms where Wi-Fi is weak/nonexistent. I just got a Deco5 Mesh System yesterday, and I set it up in regular router mode, with main Deco wired to modem/router and other 2 Decos in other rooms of house. Seems to work OK, even though I now have 2 Wi-Fi options (I never turned off the Wi-Fi on the modem/router).

Before I begin switching modes from router to access point, are there any advantages/disadvantages to setting it up this way - as a router - or as an access point? Is one way better to accomplish what I need - to cover the weak Wi-Fi rooms? Any thoughts and advice are appreciated.

Normally, if you do not want a huge adjustment about your existing network, the best setup would be to put Deco into access point mode and turn off the Spectrum router's wifi, leaving Deco to take over the whole wireless network.

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