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Viejo Vizcacha

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Feb 13, 2009, 10:34:27 PM2/13/09
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You are invited to hear Robert Fisk, brilliant journalist and author
specializing in the Middle East, speak on the deeper story behind the
Gaza massacre, the war in Iraq, and threatened war against Iran.

Tom Brown Arena (Bayview and Scott)
SATURDAY, FEB 21, 2:00 pm
"Canada and Gaza in Context"
$10 admission ($5 for students)
(Note: because of construction on Scott, approach the Tom Brown Arena
from the south off Somerset--see attached map in Middle East Discussion
Group)

OR ALSO

Marion Hall, University of Ottawa
Feb. 21, 7:15 PM
"Canada and the Wars in the Middle East"
($5 donation)

Please join us and widely distribute the information.

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for Canada Palestine news.

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Feb 14, 2009, 9:32:52 AM2/14/09
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Is this a Liberal fundraiser????

penny

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Feb 14, 2009, 10:00:43 PM2/14/09
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:34:27 -0500, Viejo Vizcacha
<elbie_jo...@yahoo.com> wrote:


Robert Fisk is one of the greatest investigative jounalists in the
world on Middle Eastern affairs. People should be lining the
streets of Ottawa to see such an honest . perceptive, and brave man
who is dedicated to getting the truth to the world.


Penny

Viejo Vizcacha

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Feb 19, 2009, 10:24:42 PM2/19/09
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***Please Circulate Widely***

Event # 1: Robert Fisk in Ottawa


You are invited to hear Robert Fisk, brilliant journalist and author
specializing in the Middle East,
speak on the deeper story behind the Gaza massacre, the war in Iraq, and
threatened war against Iran.


Lecture #1: Robert Fisk at the Tom Brown Arena, "Canada and Gaza in Context"


When: Saturday February 21, at 2:00 pm
Where: Tom Brown Arena (Bayview and Scott)


(Note: because of construction on Scott, approach the Tom Brown Arena

from the south off Somerset)


$10 admission ($5 for students)

Brought to you by: the Middle East Discussion Group and Independent
Jewish Voices


Lecture #2: Robert Fisk at the University of Ottawa, "Canada and the war
in the Middle East"


When: Saturday February 21, at 7pm.
Where: Marion Hall (auditorium), University of Ottawa, 140 Louis Pasteur.
Brought to you by: Solidarity for Palestinian Human Rights (SPHR)
University of Ottawa


Background:
For those of you who may not know him, Robert Fisk is well-known for his
coverage of the Middle East for over 30 years. He has resided in Beirut
since 1976, initially serving as the Middle East correspondent for The
Times before moving to The Independent, for which he still writes. He
has written several prominent books, most notably "Pity the Nation:
Lebanon at War" and "The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the
Middle East".


Event # 2: Anarchists Against The Wall in Ottawa


North American Speaking Tour Featuring Schachaf Polakow
*************************************************


What: Talk featuring Shachaf Polakow from Anarchists Against the Wall
When: Sunday February 22nd, 7PM
Where: Jack Purcell Community Centre, room 201, 320 Jack Purcell Lane
(off Elgin St. at Lewis St.)
$5.00 - $50.00 Suggested Donation (No one will be turned away for
financial reasons)


____________________________

About Anarchists Against The Wall:
____________________________

Anarchists Against the Wall (www.awalls.org) is a direct action group
that fights against Israeli apartheid and oppression in all its forms,
most recently also the atrocities in Gaza. For five years the group has
waged a constant struggle against Israel's Wall. The work on the ground
in the West Bank, alongside the Palestinian popular movement is breaking
new ground in the joint struggle for Palestinian liberation. In December
2008, Anarchists Against the Wall and the Bil'in Village Committee were
jointly awarded the prestigious Carl von Ossietzky Medal---an award
given annually by the Berlin-based International League of Human Rights,
named after German Nobel Peace Prize winner Carl von Ossietzky who died
in a Nazi concentration camp.

Shachaf Polakow, a member of Anarchists Against The Wall, has been
working with the popular movement in the West Bank against the
occupation, the construction of the wall, and Israeli apartheid policy.
Polakow also organizes inside of Israel as part of the movement
struggling for the rights of African refugees. He will be touring the
U.S. and Canada from February 1st to March 9th. His presentation will
include film and photos, and will focus both on AATW's recent work in
solidarity with Gaza and our ongoing work in the West Bank.

For more information on Anarchists Against the Wall see: http://awalls.org/

____________________________

Fundraising to Support Resistance!
____________________________

This fundraising and educational tour will raise money to support the
struggle against the Apartheid Wall, specifically legal costs for both
Palestinians and Israelis arrested in the course of resistance. The
funds are more desperately needed now as a mounting internal assault on
dissidents is being waged by Israel. Members of Anarchists Against the
Wall continually pay the price for their activism, including being shot,
beaten, arrested and indicted. They desperately need funding for legal
support for both Palestinian and Israeli activists who are arrested and
charged in the course of the struggle.


PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU OR YOUR ORGANIZATION WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT
ANARCHISTS AGAINST THE WALL BY DONATING MUCH NEEDED FUNDS!


____________________________

Brought to you by:
____________________________


Students Against Israeli Apartheid (SAIA) – Carleton University
Not In Our Name (NION) - Jewish Voices Opposing Zionism
Common Cause Ottawa
Solidarity for Palestinian Human Rights (SPHR) – Ottawa University
Ontario Public Interest Research Group (OPIRG) – Carleton
No One Is Illegal


Stay tuned for the full schedule of Israeli Apartheid Week,
Standing United with the People of Gaza, March 1 – 8 2009,
Carleton University & University of Ottawa

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WindsorFox<[SS]>

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Feb 20, 2009, 10:04:53 AM2/20/09
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Viejo Vizcacha wrote:
> ***Please Circulate Widely***
>
> Event # 1: Robert Fisk in Ottawa
>
>
> You are invited to hear Robert Fisk, terrorist sympathizer and author
> specializing in the Middle East,


There, I fixed that for you....


--
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a) attempting to divert the discussion
by constructing a fallicious straw man
argument or b) "area code boy" really
is as stupid as he looks." - YourFriend

Viejo Vizcacha

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Feb 20, 2009, 9:55:33 PM2/20/09
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Viejo Vizcacha

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Feb 21, 2009, 9:21:10 PM2/21/09
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I went to the presentation by Robert Fisk today. Among the people
present I recognized Flora Mac Donald, and senator Proudhomme.

To listen to Robert Fisk is always a pleasure. One of the things that
were brought up were:

1) Right now being an anti-Jew is forgiven, but being anti-Israel is
not.

2) Do not hold your breath for Obama. He does not have anything new
to offer.

3) Having Netanyahu and Lieberman making a coalition government in
Israel is good news, since it will be the end of hypocrisy.

4) There is a small chance that in the next Iranian elections
Almehdinajad will be defeated, and that is good news.

5) Pakistan does not look good, and it will look even worse.

6) Right now there are in the Middle East and Afghanistan the number
of Western troops is 22 times the number of Christian troops that
participated in the Crusades.

7) AIPAC is not the representative of Israel; it is more like the
Likhud in Washington actually.

8) Do not hold your breath waiting for Israeli war criminals being
brought to Justice.

9) Can we trust that someone reporting from Jerusalem can fairly
report about the situation in Gaza or the West Bank?


ViejoVizcacha

WindsorFox<[SS]>

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Feb 21, 2009, 9:29:03 PM2/21/09
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Viejo Vizcacha wrote:

> 4) There is a small chance that in the next Iranian elections
> Almehdinajad will be defeated, and that is good news.
>


And you expect what out of that exactly??

--

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Canada and their staff regularly monitors and posts to
this newsgroup. A "Jaime Baillie" (I think, I'm not too
good at Spanish) is often around and might be able to
provide some insight of his own. Or maybe not." - Yukio

Viejo Vizcacha

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Feb 21, 2009, 9:40:22 PM2/21/09
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On Feb 21, 9:29 pm, "WindsorFox<[SS]>" <windsor.fox.use...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Viejo Vizcacha wrote:
> > 4) There is a small chance that in the next Iranian elections
> > Almehdinajad will be defeated, and that is good news.
>
>     And you expect what out of that exactly??


I do not consider myself so important as to believe that anyone would
be interested in knowing what I expect or not. That is of no
importance.

VV

WindsorFox<[SS]>

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Feb 21, 2009, 11:25:23 PM2/21/09
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If I had zero interest I would not have asked. So what you're
saying is you have no clue and you are just parroting your favorite
poster boy. Gotcha...

Viejo Vizcacha

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Feb 22, 2009, 1:12:38 PM2/22/09
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WindsorFox<[SS]> wrote:
> Viejo Vizcacha wrote:
>> On Feb 21, 9:29 pm, "WindsorFox<[SS]>" <windsor.fox.use...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Viejo Vizcacha wrote:
>>>> 4) There is a small chance that in the next Iranian elections
>>>> Almehdinajad will be defeated, and that is good news.
>>> And you expect what out of that exactly??
>>
>>
>> I do not consider myself so important as to believe that anyone would
>> be interested in knowing what I expect or not. That is of no
>> importance.
>>
>> VV
>
>
> If I had zero interest I would not have asked. So what you're saying
> is you have no clue and you are just parroting your favorite poster boy.
> Gotcha...
>

You just asked so you could end up where you ended. If I had taken your
bait it would have been a week of posts back and forth before you would
have posted the same conclusion.

VV

WindsorFox<[SS]>

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Feb 22, 2009, 2:01:39 PM2/22/09
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So humor the rest of the group. What do *YOU* think will be
accomplished if demonjob loses the election? I think nothing will change
because IMO he is nothing more than a puppet figure head.

Viejo Vizcacha

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Feb 22, 2009, 2:19:00 PM2/22/09
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On Feb 22, 2:01 pm, "WindsorFox<[SS]>" <windsor.fox.use...@gmail.com>

wrote:
> Viejo Vizcacha wrote:
> > WindsorFox<[SS]> wrote:
> >> Viejo Vizcacha wrote:
> >>> On Feb 21, 9:29 pm, "WindsorFox<[SS]>" <windsor.fox.use...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Viejo Vizcacha wrote:
> >>>>> 4) There is a small chance that in the next Iranian elections
> >>>>> Almehdinajad will be defeated, and that is good news.
> >>>>     And you expect what out of that exactly??
>
> >>> I do not consider myself so important as to believe that anyone would
> >>> be interested in knowing what I expect or not.  That is of no
> >>> importance.
>
> >>> VV
>
> >>     If I had zero interest I would not have asked. So what you're
> >> saying is you have no clue and you are just parroting your favorite
> >> poster boy. Gotcha...
>
> > You just asked so you could end up where you ended.  If I had taken your
> > bait it would have been a week of posts back and forth before you would
> > have posted the same conclusion.
>
> > VV
>
>     So humor the rest of the group. What do *YOU* think will be
> accomplished if demonjob loses the election? I think nothing will change
>   because IMO he is nothing more than a puppet figure head.
>

I agree that not much will be accomplished, mainly because the
president of Iran is not the most powerful man in Iran: the Supreme
Leader is. And that person is not elected by the people of Iran.
Furthermore, even the Supreme Leader does not have much power by
himself, since he is accountable to the Assembly of Experts. The
Shias work pretty much like the Catholic church or the Anglican
church, in the sense that it is very hierarchical.

Of course, similar argument can be used with the US, in the sense that
it does not matter much which party is in charge of Congress, Senate,
or who is the president: the lobbies that finance the candidacies are
the ones who hold the real power. And the president of the US is not
the most powerful man, since he cannot go against the wishes of the
arms conglomerate.

But, not having people like Bush or Ahmedinajad in charge, even if
they are just puppets of the real power, are positive changes. At
least we do not have idiots who come up with their own idiocies.

VV

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