EX500 For Sale
Gorey
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> Year: 1990
> Make: KAWASAKI
> Model: NINJA
> Price: $3,200
> Mileage: 45,000 km
> Ad Type: Private
>
>
> Great starter bike, cheap on insurance, and in excellent condition. Brand
> new Muzzy pipe, new tires, new battery, new brakes and new paint. Comes
with
> stock pipe, owner's manual and helmet. Call (613) 822-2883 ask for Ifoma
or
> leave a message.
>
>
>
>
>
Tenny
"Gorey" <gordt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Kris Warkentin
so the fact that it's 13 years old and 'only' 500cc might keep the insurance
down.
cheers,
Kris
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Craig Jackman
Try www.primmum.com for an online insurance quote.
As for the bike below, my brother bought a 93 EX500 last summer with 7,000
km on it for $3500. Also, I can't think of a good reason why a bike would
have new paint on it. It's either been dropped (not good), or had
something caustic spilled on it (not good). Other than that, this is a
great bike with what has to be the little motor than could. It's plenty
fast enough, and I can say from experience handles really well. Look for
one a little later than 90, as they changed not long after that to give a
bigger front brake, gibber fairing, and 17" wheels rather than 16".
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mariom1
choice for a first bike. The magic age is 30 for males. Rate typically drop
substatially at this age because statistically most claims are make by 16-29
yr old males.
-I know this bike well because I used one for my driving course & test, and
I also own a Ninja 600. Because the blue book value for this bike would be
maybe $1700 for mint condition, insurance would be approx 700-1000 for a
high risk driver with no points-tickets or driving arrests.
*Because of very high demand the resale value on old used bikes are wacked!
I personally would not pay more than 2k for this one if in 100% condition,
including ferings.
"Kris Warkentin" <kewa...@beavis.shacknet.nu> wrote in message
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Ifoma Smart
Agentorg
I have one of those suckers :) heheh
I just switched insurance companies to prinum (or something like that)
I paid about $500 last year for the insurance....this year...same coverage $248/year
ya that's right $248/year!!!!!
it's a '96 and i've been riding for a long time now...almost 20 years...and
not a single accident,ticket or claim....ever.
oh ya, and for mine, i paid around $3000...2 years ago...so it was
around 5 years old at the time...
brand new they cost only around $6k...might as well add $2800 and get a
brand new one...
Pat
i change mine after 3000 Km of riding and got a zx6
i sold my 1987 with 35,000 KM for 1700 $ in great shape with new tire, air
filter and oil change.
My girlfriend love that bike since it was easy for her to climb on as a
passenger. easy on her knee as well
Pat
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Rick Champagne
'em. If you could in fact find a new one for $6000.00 (which when I was
looking for mine cost closer to $7000), the taxes would amount to at least
$900.00, making the difference between new and used more than double! You
may have the extra cash kicking around, but some of us don't. That's why we
buy used.
For what it's worth I paid $4300 for my old one used, and it didn't have an
aftermarket pipe on it! And I still had tons o' fun! : )
Rick
On 2/13/03 1:29 PM, in article 0uR2a.32002$ns3.7...@news20.bellglobal.com,
Peter Guidry
I am just getting into looking into getting my first bike, but I can't believe bikes are
that out of whack with the rest of used goods industry. In 96, I bought a 6 year old Mazda
323 for $3000. About 30% of what it cost new.
A thirteen year old beginner bike for $3200??
If this is normal, I won't be getting a bike.
Peter
Guy F
ride.
Guy F.
Steve Y
The exception might be old small displacement standards, cruisers and
dirtbikes
which in my opinion, eventually become junk. (or collectables)
A well maintained used bike of most styles will fetch a significantly higher
resale relative to
the original price if only because they are luxury/recreational purchases
and
therefore the type of demand or impetus to buy is always there.
This is not to say deals can't be found. You will have to act fast and be
prepared
to do your homework. The plus side is that when it comes time to sell you
lose little
to nothing in the process... (in theory)
Along the lines you are looking for is the VF500 Honda Interceptor. A
similar bike
which in a 1985 vintage could reasonably be found locally for between
$1,200-2,000.
Again that probably won't be a mint bike in the first sunny week of spring.
And in keeping with my last post in riding gear...
Eventually you'll end up spending more on accessories and gear than what you
pay for
your first used beater bike. It's kind of like a rite of passage. <grin>
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SG
>$2800! Your math must be off. Buying new means taxes old boy, and lot's of
>'em.
Buying used means taxes as well.
At any rate there is a 1997 500R for $3700, and a 1999 for $5000 in
trader.ca. If I was in the market for a "first bike" I would be
takeing a good hard look at both of those. IIRC when I was looking for
my first bike two years ago there were a large number of 1 and 2 year
old 500Rs up for sale.
If you don't mind comestic damage there is a 1999 ZX-6 (no R) for
4200, and a 1998 500R for 2200. Personally though I would not
recommend that a new rider touch anything that looks like it was
dropped unless they have a trusted motorcycle mechanic at there
side. On the flip side you can get some pretty kick ass deals on
nearly perfect bikes with scratched up fairings.
--
sg
Peter Guidry
>Motorcycles tend to hold their value after a certain age...
>The exception might be old small displacement standards, cruisers and
>dirtbikes
>which in my opinion, eventually become junk. (or collectables)
>
>A well maintained used bike of most styles will fetch a significantly higher
>resale relative to
>the original price if only because they are luxury/recreational purchases
>and
>therefore the type of demand or impetus to buy is always there.
I am aware of that, but I would spring $6000 (MSRP on suzuki web) for a new GS500, rather
than pay $3200 for a 13 year old version of the same, no matter how mint. I think the
only place to get that kind of price is on Ebay. ;-)
If I didn't figure I was going to drop it, ding it, scratch it, I would probably buy the
new bike, as it is, I would prefer some discount for pre-dinged condition.
>
>This is not to say deals can't be found. You will have to act fast and be
>prepared
>to do your homework. The plus side is that when it comes time to sell you
>lose little
>to nothing in the process... (in theory)
>
>Along the lines you are looking for is the VF500 Honda Interceptor. A
>similar bike
>which in a 1985 vintage could reasonably be found locally for between
>$1,200-2,000.
>Again that probably won't be a mint bike in the first sunny week of spring.
>
>And in keeping with my last post in riding gear...
>Eventually you'll end up spending more on accessories and gear than what you
>pay for
>your first used beater bike. It's kind of like a rite of passage. <grin>
At least increasing gear costs, won't increase my insurance. I am not very style concious,
so won't be looking for flashy graphics covered helmets or the like. I exect to spend a
little more on the bike than the gear.
Peter
Peter Guidry
>If you don't mind comestic damage there is a 1999 ZX-6 (no R) for
>4200, and a 1998 500R for 2200. Personally though I would not
>recommend that a new rider touch anything that looks like it was
>dropped unless they have a trusted motorcycle mechanic at there
>side. On the flip side you can get some pretty kick ass deals on
>nearly perfect bikes with scratched up fairings.
How many newbies (like me) are going to have a trusted motorcycle mechanic handy. From
my perspective a pre-dropped mechanically sound bike would be ideal. How can I get it
checked out?
Peter
Peter Guidry
>If economics is going to stop you from riding then you don't deserve to
>ride.
>
>Guy F.
>
So only the rich deserve many things in life. That makes it all very simple....
Guy F
Peter Guidry wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:07:33 -0500, Guy F <fort...@adan.kingston.net> wrote:
>
>
>>If economics is going to stop you from riding then you don't deserve to
>>ride.
>>
>>Guy F.
>>
>
>
> So only the rich deserve many things in life. That makes it all very simple....
>
>
Nope only those that really want them deserve them, weeds out the
wannabees pretty quick. Nothing sadder than seeing a bike rotting away
in someones driveway because it's no longer the flavor of the month. If
you don't bring a passion to this sport why bother, you might just as
well go out and sign up for pottery lessons.
Guy F.
Craig Jackman
$3200 for a used EX is not out of line, but it is for one with 45000 km on
it. My brother bought his last summer (it's a 93) for $3000, but it had
7000 km on and looked like it was right out of the box.
The EX is a great bike. But you can find the same bike for a lot less on
trader.ca, only they don't have the Muzzy pipe. Do you really need a
Muzzy pipe?
I wouldn't pay more than $2000 for any bike with over 40000 km on it,
unless it looked like someone had licked the whole thing clean, and I
could use the engine cases as a shaving mirror. Look around some more.
With spring coming more bikes will be coming up for sale at better prices.
You should be able to find a decent starter bike used for $1500. $1000 if
you look hard enough and are willing to do a little work yourself.
Peter Guidry
Sorry, but I don't bring any sporting pretensions. Just figure it is good clean/legal fun.
IMO someone can enjoy biking as part of thier life, without having it BE their life. Your
passion for it should not preclude those that just want to experience it in moderation.
Peter
Peter Guidry
>
>$3200 for a used EX is not out of line, but it is for one with 45000 km on
>it. My brother bought his last summer (it's a 93) for $3000, but it had
>7000 km on and looked like it was right out of the box.
Yes, I agree, that sounds like a very nice transaction to me. Peter
DaveInOttawa
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Your statements contradict each other...
First you say, "If economics is going to stop you from riding then you
don't deserve to ride.", which would imply that riding is a matter of
affordability, and reserved for the wealthy.
Then you reply, "only those that really want them deserve them."
So, which is it, Guy?
Either way, I strongly disagree. Riding is a privilege and an exercise of
one's personal freedoms. I don't think you can make blanket statements
about what certain groups deserve or don't based on wealth or want. I've
met many great friends on all kinds of different bikes with different
backgrounds, so don't be so quick to judge, lest ye be judged, my friend.
See you on the road.
--
DaveInOttawa
'01 ZX12R (Blue) - "Diesel"
SG
>
>How many newbies (like me) are going to have a trusted motorcycle mechanic handy. From
>my perspective a pre-dropped mechanically sound bike would be ideal. How can I get it
>checked out?
I can't really answer this question as I have only been riding for 2 years.
--
sg
Dash Riprock
stock (Except tires and battery) and has less than 30,000 on it. (29,999.9
or so.)
Let me know if you want pictures.
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Guy F
motorcycle by the economics of the sport and only use that as your basis
of measurement then you are not going to get very far.
(I am just getting into looking into getting my first bike, but I can't
believe bikes are
that out of whack with the rest of used goods industry. In 96, I bought
a 6 year old Mazda
323 for $3000. About 30% of what it cost new.
A thirteen year old beginner bike for $3200??
If this is normal, I won't be getting a bike.)
My second statement answering Peters second statement (So only the rich
deserve many things in life. That makes it all very simple....)
Refers to the fact that if you really want something you will find a way
to afford it regardless of how little sense it makes.
Lets face it we in this country that participate in this sport have the
shortest riding season in world, the highest insurance rates in the
world along with some of the least motorcycle friendly automobile
drivers in the world to share the roads with. So riding a bike for the
pure financial sense of it doesn't. I ride because if I don't I get
ugly, it's my lifeline, it is what keeps me sane. So when I hear
someone begin to whine about how the depreciated value of a 13 year old
motorcycle is more than a 6 year old Mazda give me a break. Either you
want it bad enough or you don't.
By the way I've been riding for 20 years now, I haven't always had a car
or owned my own house or even had a job. But I've always had a bike.
Guy Fortier
2002 Honda VFR
1981 Moto Guzzi 1000 Sp (worth about the same as when she was new)
1950 Norton Model 7 (worth roughly 15 times more than when she was new)
Atrate
I have read your previous posts about being a newbie (so am I, less than a
year under my wheels), and I guess the question I'd ask you is what kind of
bike are you looking for? Sportie? Cruiser? Dual? Dirt Bike? Because
that will determine what you're going to pay, sometimes regardless of its
age.
The thing about motorcycles, at least up here in the Great White North, is
that, with few exceptions, they don't get ridden 4-6 months of the year.
So, a 10 year old bike is still not "old" in regard to mileage (of course,
I'm assuming that the owner has taken care of it).
I did a lot of shopping around when I was looking for a bike last year.
First thing I decided was the "style" of bike; in my case, that was what I
think folks call a retro-cruiser. I looked at Honda Shadow ACE 750, V-Star
650 Classic, Suzuki Volusia and Marauder 800, Vulcan 800. Figured all of
those would be within my limits as a new rider, given my height, leg length
and preference. Sport bikes never really appealed to me...that might be an
age thing, 'cuz I am not a kid anymore :) Also, I did not want a brand new
bike that I would be more concerned about scratching, marking or dropping
than RIDING. Given that I have dropped my beloved scoot...it turned out to
be a wise decision <wry grin>. No damage to me or the bike; highway bars
come in DAMNED handy :) Only injury was to my pride and THAT was nearly
fatal...but I survived :)
The one bike I really never thought about was the bike I ended up buying --
the Kawasaki Vulcan Drifter 800. I have never had any reason to regret my
decision. I found the bike via www.autotrader.ca and bought her from a fine
gentleman in Kingston, about 160KM from here. Money well spent. I have
nothing bad to say about my experience, except it took me 3 months to find
the bike that "fit" me and that I felt I could ride. The bike is a '99,
when I bought her, she had about 20K on the odometer, and she came equipped
with the aforementioned bars, bags and a windshield. I paid $6200, and felt
I was not cheated. I ended up having to replace the chain and sprockets and
buy a rear tire in my first season as a rider....this is sometimes the price
you pay for being new, and buying used. Regardless, I don't regret my
choice for a second.
A bike that "fits" is MOST important; that's what anyone I've ever talked to
has told me. Until you take the safety course and get a feel for how a
motorcyle operates, there is no real way to advise you, other than to relay
our own personal experiences. What I told you was MY personal experience.
YMMV of course.
I wish you all success in the safety course and in getting on the road on
two (motor powered) wheels. It is a feeling like no other :) If you care
to email me, I'd be happy to babble on and on for hours about this topic :)
Best,
Atrate
'99 Vulcan Drifter 800
"Sadie"
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Tom B
mis-interpreted and taken out of context. So let me be the first (because no
one else is up at 5:25am working on their bike)to say ......well put Sir.
Tom B
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Guy F
Guy F.
Mike Palmer
until much later. :)
--
Hakuna Matata;
Mike (aka: Gummiente)
'01 Tiger 955i (Black Betty)
'79 CB 650 (Marge)
"Work to Ride, Ride to Work"
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Guy F
time in when the season gets here.
During the summer months I usually go for a couple hour ride before I
meet up with a group of riding buddies on sunday mornings at the god
awful early time of 8 AM (as stated by a few of them that view anything
before 11 as uncivilized). I just hate to waste any of the precious
time we have.
Guy F.
DaveInOttawa
I wasn't slamming you, but on your initial reply, I almost misjudged you...
and actually believed you were trolling. For that I apologize. We lose
context in print, so your message came across somewhat negatively, which
your last reply corrected nicely.
BTW... I haven't noticed many posts from you, so welcome.
I picked up on the fact that you're in the Kingston area, and checked the CM
page, and noticed that you're a member, as am I and several others here in
Ottawa. If you're interested, we're having another CM lunch gathering on
March 15th somewhere midway (Smith's Falls / Kemptville). Since this is
supposed to be *my* turn to organize, I extend an invitation to join us.
Details on the CM Messageboard.
--
DaveInOttawa
'01 ZX12R (Blue) - "Diesel"
"Guy F" <fort...@adan.kingston.net> wrote in message
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Peter Guidry
>What I meant by those statements is that if you try to justify riding a
>motorcycle by the economics of the sport and only use that as your basis
>of measurement then you are not going to get very far.
I think I need to clarify. Obviously there is no financial reason to ride. I own a car. As
a new biker my insurance bill will now double and since I already have transportation,
buying secondary impractical transportation is just money down the drain.
I was never attempting to justify my purchase by way of economics.
What I was attempting to convey is that I wont pay idiodic prices for a used bike.
I have seen much better deals, which IMO translates to only a Moron paying $3200 for the
bike in question( 1990 ex500 with 40000kms). My questioning the value proposition of the
bike in question, does not mean I lack the proper attitude, it just means I haven't
completely lost my common sense. Maybe if you soon plan to sell a bike at an over-inflated
price you would prefer to disparage those who don't like overpaying...
Quick check of trader.ca:
Year: 1997
Make: KAWASAKI
Model: NINJA
Model Detail: 500
Price: $3,700
Mileage: 13,508 km
Date: 2/21/03
Ad Type: Dealer Comment: Clean bike, runs well, certified. 13,508 km. $3700Wayne's World.
(613)332-4649 WAYNE'S WORLD
Year: 1999
Make: KAWASAKI
Model: NINJA
Model Detail: EX-500D
Price: $5,000
Mileage: 8,140 km
Date: 2/21/03
Ad Type: Private
Year: 2002
Make: SUZUKI
Model: SAVAGE 650
Model Detail: LS
Price: $4,995
Mileage: ------- km
Date: 2/21/03
Ad Type: Dealer Comment: One only, new, 1 year warr. Black. $4995 POWER CYCLE
(519)969-2339 (CDGJNC)
ear :
2001
Make :
KAWASAKI
Model :
NINJA
Model Detail :
250
Price :
$4,300
Mileage :
23768
Stock # :
23456
Ad Code :
CCJTJL
Date:
2/21/03
Features :
Blue/silver showroom condition.
Peter Guidry
>Peter, the price you will pay for a used bike depends on a lot of factors.
>I have read your previous posts about being a newbie (so am I, less than a
>year under my wheels), and I guess the question I'd ask you is what kind of
>bike are you looking for? Sportie? Cruiser? Dual? Dirt Bike? Because
>that will determine what you're going to pay, sometimes regardless of its
>age.
Sure, I posted once more clarifing. Even a quick check of Trader will show the price of
that bike was out of line.
Me I like that rare breed: The standard. My bike starter bike of preference is a GS500.
But from what I read the EX500 is essentially a standard in disguise, so it is also in the
running. I want something UNDER 400 lbs for my first bike.
>I did a lot of shopping around when I was looking for a bike last year.
>First thing I decided was the "style" of bike; in my case, that was what I
>think folks call a retro-cruiser. I looked at Honda Shadow ACE 750, V-Star
>650 Classic, Suzuki Volusia and Marauder 800, Vulcan 800. Figured all of
>those would be within my limits as a new rider, given my height, leg length
Ideally if I could handle the bike and the financials. I would love a BMW R1150RT. :-)
But right now that is too much bike and way too much money. My ideal bike doesn't exist. I
want a light weight bike with 500-600cc engine shaft drive and tourable setup, but still
practical and fun around town. :-) Most shafties seem to be full on tourers or Cruisers.
I have no problem with tourers, but the are IMO heavier than they need to be for the sake
of styling. I am more a form follows funciton kind of guy.
>and preference. Sport bikes never really appealed to me...that might be an
>age thing, 'cuz I am not a kid anymore :) Also, I did not want a brand new
>bike that I would be more concerned about scratching, marking or dropping
>than RIDING. Given that I have dropped my beloved scoot...it turned out to
>be a wise decision <wry grin>. No damage to me or the bike; highway bars
>come in DAMNED handy :) Only injury was to my pride and THAT was nearly
>fatal...but I survived :)
Same here. Not into sport bikes (37 years on planet). Sport touring is what I would like
in the end. Only in the sense that I want a lightish tourer that can be fun to drive.
>A bike that "fits" is MOST important; that's what anyone I've ever talked to
>has told me. Until you take the safety course and get a feel for how a
>motorcyle operates, there is no real way to advise you, other than to relay
>our own personal experiences. What I told you was MY personal experience.
>YMMV of course.
>I wish you all success in the safety course and in getting on the road on
>two (motor powered) wheels. It is a feeling like no other :) If you care
>to email me, I'd be happy to babble on and on for hours about this topic :)
Thanks, No doubt I will be hanging out on the message board a lot until I get my wheels.
Peter
Guy F
Guy F.
Atrate
Atrate
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Atrate
share.
Good luck to you :)
Atrate
'99 Vulcan Drifter 800
"Sadie"
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Ifo Smart
NEW Metzler tires - front and rear ($400), a new FULL MUZZY EXHAUST
system - not a slip on can ($600), new paint - not because it was
dropped, but becuse the paint scheme bothered me, and a new battery ($40).
Yes, the mileage is high, but I am will to negotiate. The bike runs
great and has NEVER had any problems.
As for insurance, I paid $420/year with Kingsway.