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bartom

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Apr 30, 2001, 8:58:13 PM4/30/01
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I took a motorcycle course from OCSC 5 years ago and at that time I was
advised that within a certain period of time I would have to do another
test. When I checked on this test I was told it did not exist yet (I
assume this was the M class license) and therefore I forgot about it.

Now to my surprise I have a letter from the Ministry of Transport saying
my license is due to expire on June 19 2001. To continue driving I need
to pass an M1 test to keep my M2 or pass an M2 test to get an M class
license which I assume is good for ever. I can do either by passing a
driver test at the driver exam center or by taking a course with OCSC and
passing their test.

So I guess my questions are:

What is the difference in the M1 and M2 test at the driving center?
Are they really hard?
Would it be better for me to redo the OCSC course and test instead of
chancing a government exam guy having a bad day?
Has anyone failed it and why?

I should mention that I am 56 years old (but think I am 33) and may not be
riding a bike beyond the next 5 years. There is no current reason why I
could not continue riding the Bike, I just do not use it enough to keep
paying the insurance on it. My plan is to keep it another few years and
then buy an older sports car.


Thanks for your assistance

Barry


Robin Hilton

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May 1, 2001, 3:05:08 PM5/1/01
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If you won't be riding in another five years then just redo your M2. I'ts
cheap and you don't need to worry about any hard ass exam person because it
is all computerized now. Go in pay your money (I think it's around $30) sit
at the terminal, pass, then continue riding like you were meant to. After
five years if you still want to ride then go for your M. That is my 2 cents
worth.

Robin

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dz...@home.com

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May 1, 2001, 3:11:12 PM5/1/01
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M2 is still the test in the back of the MTO not the written test... written
test still expires after 90days doesn't it??
M2 is 5 years, still have to pass a driving test behind the MTO for the M2
as you know 90day permit doesn't allow for use on highway or passengers...
M2 only restriction is alcohol....
I know how the other guy feels... my M2 expires in a couple months....

why some of us wait till the last second....??

Dean
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David McDougall

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May 1, 2001, 9:41:33 PM5/1/01
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> Would it be better for me to redo the OCSC course and test instead of
> chancing a government exam guy having a bad day?


Hi,

I live in Carleton Place and took my Class M roadtest in Smiths Falls last
Tuesday (I passed!!).

Anyway, I found the examiner very professional and fair. She mentioned a
couple of things that I could have done better a couple of times but
nothing serious enough to warrant flunking the test.

The night before the road test, I read through the back of the Motorcycle
Driver's Handbook put out by the MTO which was a good reminder of the
things they are looking for in the road test (like stopping at least a
bike length behind the vehicle in front of your for example).

I recommend that you read the book over and take the M test.

That's my two cents worth.

Dave

PS - I found the MTO government tests easier than the OCSC test (which was
an excellent course by the way. I am considering signing up for their
advanced course).

Spagthorpe

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May 2, 2001, 10:54:46 AM5/2/01
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The terminology makes this situation a bit confusing, doesn't it? Some of
the info in other posts is incorrect because of this.

You got your M2 nearly five years ago and are now nearing expiry. So you
need an M test, also known as an M2-Exit test (you're "exiting M2 status").
You have a couple of choices.

(1) (preferred): Book an M test now. MTO will give you an extension on
your M2 to the date of your M test, if you have the earliest available M
test booked before your M2 expires. (They will also extend to accomodate one
retest if you don't pass.) You have to arrange this before expiry -- no good
going to them after the drop-dead date.

There are three ways to do your M test:

(1a): Just go to the Ministry and take it. It's a road test on your bike.
If you've been riding regularly you have the skills, but you may be
surprised at the level of picky detail they're looking for in precisely how
you execute various techniques. At least get the manual and study. Better,
see option 1c below.

(1b): Take OCSC's "M2-Exit" course. They drill you on all the necessary
stuff then administer the M test.

(1c): You may not have time to get into (1b). But OCSC will let you take
just the classroom section for a few $$, so you know what the ministry is
looking for, then you can do the test yourself at MTO.

Your other option is to renew your M2 license for another five years.

(2) To do this, you must take the M2 test again. Either do this at the MTO
or take OCSC's course again. OCSC's test is considerably harder than the
MTO's, which is why you get an insurance break for the OCSC test and not for
the MTO's. But if you already have your OCSC certificate you're not going to
get another discount, so just go do the MTO test. On the other hand, maybe
the training refresh from OCSC would be worth while.

Again, you must do this BEFORE your M2 expires.

If you let your M2 expire then, as far as MTO is concerned, you are a
newbie. Back to the M1 learners permit, then M2, then 5 years, then M.


bartom

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May 2, 2001, 9:30:20 PM5/2/01
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Thanks to all for the advice.

I guess I will do the M2 test again for now it seems the safest bet with
the time available. I assume that if I have valid M2 and fail the M I
keep riding with my M2, which means I can get home without calling a tow
truck.

The phone system I called said there were 2 centers one on Walkley and one
in the east (I forget). Is the road part likely to be any easier at one
than the other?

regards

Barry


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LeadBuG

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May 2, 2001, 9:47:41 PM5/2/01
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Do the M test.

I did mine last October. Things that will help you pass:

1) Ride with confidence. Show then that you are control of the bike, not
the other way around.
2) dont speed. They dont like that.
3) Look around. You should be doing this anyhow, but they like to see that
you know what is going on around you.

I did the test and found it was reasonably easy. Take your time, be
confident and you should do well.

cya
Sean

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