Question about the security of Karabiner Elements

[brian77...@gmail.com]

Question... Karabiner Elements seems to work well for me and is awesome so far, but how do I know this is a 'safe' program?  Meaning, is it safe to enter passwords, etc?   Is this getting all of my keyboard input like a logger?  Is there any insight into what the program is actually doing?  Thanks!

[Takayama Fumihiko]

The security is most important for key remapper because any key
remapper can be key logger as you say.

Karabiner-Elements treats the input events only in a privileged process
`karabiner_grabbier` and any process cannot steal the events.
Thus, you can type password safely with Karabiner-Elements.

Some documentation is in DEVELOP.md.
https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner-Elements/blob/master/DEVELOPMENT.md

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[Troy Reid]

Takayama, the link you provided that should explain everything does not work. I do not understand the reference of a privileged processs. A simple answer should suffice to everyone.CAN AND DOES KARABINER ELEMENTS RECORD AND UPLOAD YOUR KEYSTROKES? From its own documentation it says it does which makes it a key logger and unsafe! There are many of us out there that need a simple and verifiable explanation as to exactly what Karabiner records and what happens to that data when it's uploaded?

[Takayama Fumihiko]

Thanks for the feedback!

I certainly thought it would be better to have a clearer description of
the privacy page.
So, I have updated it as such as attached.

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On 2023/06/01 22:22, Troy Reid wrote:
> Takayama, the link you provided that should explain everything does not
> work. I do not understand the reference of a privileged processs. A
> simple answer should suffice to everyone.CAN AND DOES KARABINER ELEMENTS
> RECORD AND UPLOAD YOUR KEYSTROKES? From its own documentation it says it
> does which makes it a key logger and unsafe! There are many of us out
> there that need a simple and verifiable explanation as to exactly what
> Karabiner records and what happens to that data when it's uploaded?
>
> On Monday, July 24, 2017 at 3:45:24 PM UTC+1 Takayama Fumihiko wrote:
>
> The security is most important for key remapper because any key
> remapper can be key logger as you say.
>
> Karabiner-Elements treats the input events only in a privileged process
> `karabiner_grabbier` and any process cannot steal the events.
> Thus, you can type password safely with Karabiner-Elements.
>
> Some documentation is in DEVELOP.md.

> https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner-Elements/blob/master/DEVELOPMENT.md <https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner-Elements/blob/master/DEVELOPMENT.md>

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>
> On 2017/07/24 14:21, brian77...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Question... Karabiner Elements seems to work well for me and is
> awesome
> > so far, but how do I know this is a 'safe' program? Meaning, is
> it safe
> > to enter passwords, etc? Is this getting all of my keyboard input
> like
> > a logger? Is there any insight into what the program is actually
> doing?
> > Thanks!
> >
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