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Alex Chu

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Jun 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/28/00
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Rob Funk wrote:
>
> I wonder if someone might want to get OSU in on this....
>
> "Red Hat Launches University Program to Accelerate the Use of Open
> Source At Universities Around the World"
> Red Hat University Program Makes Initial Software Donation
> to Universities in the United States and Canada
> http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CovL4qbKbytiXoty
> http://www.redhat.com/apps/community/university/
>

That will be very very nice.


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Chuck Sechler

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Jun 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/28/00
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Well, the operative requirement seems to be that a school send a
request in as an email which addresses:

"In order to receive a donation for your school, send us an
email to educ...@redhat.com of how your institution plans
to adopt open source software into its infrastructure"

Perhaps someone in the Unix areas could draft such a note for their
various departments or colleges and this could be combined into one
proposal. I would offer to coordinate the pieces to produce a
proposal. Chuck.

On 28 Jun 2000 17:21:25 GMT, rf...@wks.uts.ohio-state.edu (Rob Funk)
wrote:

>I wonder if someone might want to get OSU in on this....
>
>"Red Hat Launches University Program to Accelerate the Use of Open
> Source At Universities Around the World"
> Red Hat University Program Makes Initial Software Donation
> to Universities in the United States and Canada
> http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CovL4qbKbytiXoty
> http://www.redhat.com/apps/community/university/
>

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Alex

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Jul 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/25/00
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Chuck Sechler wrote:

> Well, the operative requirement seems to be that a school send a
> request in as an email which addresses:
>
> "In order to receive a donation for your school, send us an
> email to educ...@redhat.com of how your institution plans
> to adopt open source software into its infrastructure"
>
> Perhaps someone in the Unix areas could draft such a note for their
> various departments or colleges and this could be combined into one
> proposal. I would offer to coordinate the pieces to produce a
> proposal. Chuck.
>

Just out of curiosity... Are we able to get this thing going? I would be
glad to help (don't know how).

Alex.

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Chuck Sechler

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:11:56 -0400, Alex <hedgeh...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

I have had no takers. Unfortunately, we have to make a case as to how
we plan to adopt open source into OSU's infrastructure. I am not sure
this is the case, so it may be hard to make this case and get the
software. Chuck.

Rob Funk

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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In article <397f0d30...@nntp.service.ohio-state.edu>,

Chuck Sechler <csec...@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>I have had no takers. Unfortunately, we have to make a case as to how
>we plan to adopt open source into OSU's infrastructure. I am not sure
>this is the case, so it may be hard to make this case and get the
>software. Chuck.

Actually, as I understand it we're already using open source software
in much of the OSU infrastructure in the form of servers running
FreeBSD. I've heard rumors of some plans or desires to convert more
servers from Solaris to FreeBSD. (UTS/OIT Networking is big on
FreeBSD.)

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Chuck Sechler

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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On 26 Jul 2000 19:36:54 GMT, rf...@wks.uts.ohio-state.edu (Rob Funk)
wrote:

>In article <397f0d30...@nntp.service.ohio-state.edu>,

Is this going to be a convincing argument to the Red Hat folks that we
are planning to use more FreeBSD. Just playing the devils advocate
here for a moment. Isn't this all about a request for Linux source?
chuck

Colin Walters

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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csec...@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Chuck Sechler) writes:

> Is this going to be a convincing argument to the Red Hat folks that
> we are planning to use more FreeBSD. Just playing the devils
> advocate here for a moment. Isn't this all about a request for
> Linux source?

I apologize, but the original article has expired from my news
server. What would Red Hat be giving the university?

Matt Curtin

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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>>>>> "Chuck" == Chuck Sechler <csec...@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:

Chuck> Isn't this all about a request for Linux source?

With my devil's advocate's advocate's hat on, let me interject that
perhaps it should be about BSD source. :-)

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Rob Funk

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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In article <39802c74...@nntp.service.ohio-state.edu>,

Chuck Sechler <csec...@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>On 26 Jul 2000 19:36:54 GMT, rf...@wks.uts.ohio-state.edu (Rob Funk)
>wrote:
>>Actually, as I understand it we're already using open source software
>>in much of the OSU infrastructure in the form of servers running
>>FreeBSD. I've heard rumors of some plans or desires to convert more
>>servers from Solaris to FreeBSD. (UTS/OIT Networking is big on
>>FreeBSD.)
>
>Is this going to be a convincing argument to the Red Hat folks that we
>are planning to use more FreeBSD. Just playing the devils advocate
>here for a moment. Isn't this all about a request for Linux source?

I understand. Just saying that if somebody wanted to pursue this
(personally I don't care, even if I were staying) we can make a case
for using open source in the infrastructure (which we're also doing in
non-FreeBSD ways, such as the pop and smtp server software). Trouble
is that the people who would be interested in this are not the people
doing the infrastructure. And the infrastructure software doesn't
have much to do with Red Hat. There are definitely people around who
want to do more with Linux than we are.

I think it would be good for OSU to be more publicly allied with the
free & open side of things than with the evil empire.
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Rob Funk

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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In article <85zon3bs3m.ch...@meta.verbum.org>,

Colin Walters <wal...@cis.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>I apologize, but the original article has expired from my news
>server. What would Red Hat be giving the university?

Um, if you're using the CIS news server, then it's still there,
article 3777. Copied from that article:

|"Red Hat Launches University Program to Accelerate the Use of Open
| Source At Universities Around the World"
| Red Hat University Program Makes Initial Software Donation
| to Universities in the United States and Canada
| http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CovL4qbKbytiXoty
| http://www.redhat.com/apps/community/university/

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Colin Walters

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rf...@wks.uts.ohio-state.edu (Rob Funk) writes:

> Um, if you're using the CIS news server, then it's still there,
> article 3777.

I'm not; I have a local cache.

> Copied from that article:
>
> |"Red Hat Launches University Program to Accelerate the Use of Open
> | Source At Universities Around the World"
> | Red Hat University Program Makes Initial Software Donation
> | to Universities in the United States and Canada
> | http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CovL4qbKbytiXoty
> | http://www.redhat.com/apps/community/university/

Uh, so Red Hat is "supporting" universities by giving away proprietary
software for "Linux"?

This does not help OSU stay with the "free and open" side of things.

Besides, most of the stuff they're offering appears to be for people
who haven't heard of Emacs :)


William Yang

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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In article <8lnekm$f31$1...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
Rob Funk <rf...@wks.uts.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
> In article <397f0d30...@nntp.service.ohio-state.edu>,

> Chuck Sechler <csec...@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
> >I have had no takers. Unfortunately, we have to make a case as to how
> >we plan to adopt open source into OSU's infrastructure. I am not sure
> >this is the case, so it may be hard to make this case and get the
> >software. Chuck.
>
> Actually, as I understand it we're already using open source software
> in much of the OSU infrastructure in the form of servers running
> FreeBSD. I've heard rumors of some plans or desires to convert more
> servers from Solaris to FreeBSD. (UTS/OIT Networking is big on
> FreeBSD.)

I'd go so far as to state that the vast bulk of the information
infrastructure at OSU already involves a composite of proprietary and
open source software. Most of the major services on campus run open
source-based servers like postbox (which I believe uses a modified
open source POP3 daemon), smtp.service (which runs sendmail, another
open source server package), newstand (running innd), nr1 (diablo),
ns1/2 (BIND) and the like.

And that's just at UTS/OIT. There are huge amounts of the campus
infrastructure which is managed on a department-by-department basis,
and there's a lot of open source software there, too.

Heck, even OSC has a huge Linux Beowulf (open sourced, of course)
cluster for high performance computing.

Before we make a claim of integrating open source software into our
infrastructure, maybe we really need to figure out how much open
source code is already in use.

-Bill
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The Greater Columbus Free-Net
System Administration

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