Append way (other than final nodes)

[Bjoern Hassler]

Hi all,

nice app!

"Node selected > Append" says: Add to the way this node is part of. The "Append" action is only available if the node in question is an end node of a way.

So how would you add another way that branches off, starting from an existing way? It's possible to start a new way, and then join the way to an existing way. However, it would also make sense to start from an existing way - is that not possible?

Many thanks!

Bjoern

[Simon Poole]

You actually don't have to do anything special: long press on the way and it will create a new node if necessary or use the one present and just draw the way as normal. See the "Editing" section here http://vespucci.io/help/en/Introduction/#editing-with-vespucci too.

Simon

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[Bjoern Hassler]

Hi Simon,

Thanks - I hadn't fully appreciated that the + would snap to the way - either to an existing node or a new one.

Related question: to move a node, that doesn't work. I.e. you long press (+ appears, but you can't move the nearby node yet), you tap again (node is selected), tags window pops up, you close it: then you can move the node. Is there a simpler way?

Bjoern

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[Simon Poole]

To move a node you simply need to select (short touch) and then drag (I would recommend turning on large drag area). You really simply need to drag, not re-select, this is sometimes a bit tricky but does work.

Simon

[Bjoern Hassler]

That's helpful - thanks. When I tap, the node name pops up. When I then tap the pop-up, the large selector appears, and I can drag.

And I right that with the large selector on, I cannot add nodes? I.e. I still need to long press to get + and then add further nodes?

If that's the case, then it might be good to always have the + symbol in the Manu bar to append to ways?

I think some images and documentation (e.g. as worked examples "how do I ....?") would be very helpful to get people started with editing.

Many thanks,
Bjoern

[Simon Poole]

You've got something wrong there ... to move you need to touch (node pr way is selected, you should see the visual feedback), then drag (that is touch the node/way and immediately drag) this is distinct from  touching twice which will start the property editor (the large drag area doesn't change this, it simply makes it easier). It is a bit difficult to describe in words and you may need to experiment a bit.

Simon

[Bjoern Hassler]

Hi Simon,

I've created a short tutorial here:

http://bjohas.de/wiki/Vespucci/selection_and_creation

It was step 4.4/4.5 that confused me. I might add this to github, as it's a little counter intuitive (in my opinion).

Also 6 was also confusing, but it could be helped by having the "+" in the bottom menu bar.

Thanks for you input - It's helped to clarify this! Much appreciated!

Bjoern

[ro...@beardandsandals.co.uk]

Hi Bjorn,

A small suggestion to improve 4.5

Before "The resulting way will be connected automatically:" Add

"If your next tap is outside the tolerance area of the new node being created then"

Roger

[Simon Poole]

Bjoern

Please feel free to make a PR versus the online documentation, it should likely go in documentation/docs/tutorials (markdown format).

Simon

[Bjoern Hassler]

Hi Roger, hi Simon,

thanks for the suggestions!

Roger: I've added that sentence.

Simon: The tutorials don't appear in the app - do you think there would be interest in adding clarifications / images within documentation/docs/help/en ? My view would be to possibly add a new help page on "selecting objects" (or add some images to the main introduction where selection is discussed), as well as to add some images to "Creating New objects".

Bjoern

[Simon Poole]

Am 26.06.2016 um 14:00 schrieb Bjoern Hassler:

Hi Roger, hi Simon,

thanks for the suggestions!

Roger: I've added that sentence.

Simon: The tutorials don't appear in the app - do you think there would be interest in adding clarifications / images within documentation/docs/help/en ? My view would be to possibly add a new help page on "selecting objects" (or add some images to the main introduction where selection is discussed), as well as to add some images to "Creating New objects".

Images are in general far too large to distribute with the app (given that we don't want it to explode in size) and even just a couple would soon be larger than the app proper.

Simon

[Bjoern Hassler]

Hi Simon,

Yes, I hear you, sure. Though the images I took were around 40KB each, which is quite small. I do think that a few images would have helped me get started. 

I suppose one could try to clarify the help text, and add a reference to an online tutorial?

Bjoern