Real download link of OSMand maps

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Egal

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Jul 5, 2016, 2:25:15 PM7/5/16
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Does somebody knows the real download link, which uses the map management of OSMand ?

@Harry von der Wolf:
The link http://download.osmand.net/rawindexes/ is absolute NOT the same link as OSMand uses. The map managment of OSMand offers today (5.7.2016) the new maps with date from 1.7.2016. At the same time the maps under http://download.osmand.net/rawindexes/ are still from 1.6.2016. So this link could not be identical with the internal link in OSMand. In addition there are no regional wiki files, the national wiki files are oldies from the year 2014, there are no SRTM files and there are no street-only-maps. All of these files are offered in actual versions by the map management of OSMand. Finally the files at http://download.osmand.net/rawindexes/ has other names as in OSMand.

I want to download the map files and other needed files using the windows internet browser instead of downloading them using the OSMand map manager, because my data flat rate on my phone is very small, while on my windows PC the flat rate is unlimited.

john whelan

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Jul 5, 2016, 2:33:14 PM7/5/16
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Do you have wifi on your phone?

Thanks John

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Egal

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Jul 5, 2016, 2:41:17 PM7/5/16
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Yes, I have wifi on my phone, but not on my PC.


john whelan

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Jul 5, 2016, 2:47:08 PM7/5/16
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So if you have a wifi router you can pull the data file in over wifi and save your data budget.  You may have to configure the phone to turn off the over air connection. If you don't try an internet cafe but you may need a browser to get past the agreement front page.

Cheerio John

On 5 July 2016 at 14:41, Egal <egals...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, I have wifi on my phone, but not on my PC.


Egal

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Jul 5, 2016, 3:45:45 PM7/5/16
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It would be easier and cheaper, when somebody knows the real download link. Is it a secret ? I don't think so.

john whelan

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Jul 5, 2016, 3:56:42 PM7/5/16
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Why cheaper?  If you are down loading on WiFi the cost is the same on the phone or the PC.

Cheerio John

On 5 Jul 2016 3:45 pm, "Egal" <egals...@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be easier and cheaper, when somebody knows the real download link. Is it a secret ? I don't think so.

john whelan

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Jul 5, 2016, 4:00:22 PM7/5/16
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There are other issues such as restricting access to people who have purchased the product.

There used to be a type of torrent available but I'm not sure if it still is.

Cheerio John

Richard Z.

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Jul 6, 2016, 5:30:51 AM7/6/16
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On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 02:47:06PM -0400, john whelan wrote:
> So if you have a wifi router you can pull the data file in over wifi and
> save your data budget. You may have to configure the phone to turn off the
> over air connection. If you don't try an internet cafe but you may need a
> browser to get past the agreement front page.

I found that some free-WIFI APs block the download of OsmAnd maps.
Perhaps a generic filter to block content they don't know and can't
filter.

On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 03:56:39PM -0400, john whelan wrote:
> Why cheaper? If you are down loading on WiFi the cost is the same on the
> phone or the PC.

sometimes it may be cheaper (for both the server and user) if he
can use wget or similar with the ability to retry if something
goes wrong.

The download links may be semi-secret and worth to protect from
overeager download managers, on the other hand given that the maps
are so large that any reasonable selection won't fit into the
memory of most devices there should be some mirrors allowing direct
download.

Richard

Harry van der Wolf

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Jul 6, 2016, 7:16:35 AM7/6/16
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2016-07-05 20:25 GMT+02:00 Egal <egals...@gmail.com>:
Does somebody knows the real download link, which uses the map management of OSMand ?

Yes, and you can find it if you do some analysis. 
I will not tell you though because of the model of OsmAnd that free users are only limited to 10 maps. The website is the "work-around" for users still wanting to use more maps while being on the Free version. So, there is a little masking with a php script to make it slightly more complicated (on a phone) to do it outside OsmAnd.
I am not the owner, nor designer of that setup but I fully support that setup.
 

@Harry von der Wolf:
The link http://download.osmand.net/rawindexes/ is absolute NOT the same link as OSMand uses. The map managment of OSMand offers today (5.7.2016) the new maps with date from 1.7.2016. At the same time the maps under http://download.osmand.net/rawindexes/ are still from 1.6.2016. So this link could not be identical with the internal link in OSMand. In addition there are no regional wiki files, the national wiki files are oldies from the year 2014, there are no SRTM files and there are no street-only-maps. All of these files are offered in actual versions by the map management of OSMand. Finally the files at http://download.osmand.net/rawindexes/ has other names as in OSMand.

If you check a little further you will see that there is a mix in http://download.osmand.net/rawindexes/ for maps not updated yet, and for maps which already have the time stamp of 01.07.
The same in the OsmAndmap manager, at least in mine. Japan for example still on 01.06 and Russia already on 01.07: same versions in OsmAnd as in http://download.osmand.net/rawindexes/
Next to that: In the first week of the month,the new maps are generated, which is now. I guess that next weekend everything is on 01.07 apart from the occasional failure.

So again: at this very moment I see the same 01.07 maps in OsmAnd and the raw index, and the same 01.06 maps in OsmAnd and the raw index.

Harry

Egal

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Jul 6, 2016, 3:22:56 PM7/6/16
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@Harry van der Wolf
I notice, that you write posts for every theme, everywhere, at any time. That's sometimes annoying but not really a problem.
A real problem is, that you make an impression on the readers that you know everything and that you are everytime right. But often you are not right, so you often desinform the readers. In the case of this theme you are absolute wrong.
Your posts here are welcome, when you have correct informations, but you should not comment EVERY theme with often false informations.
Sorry for these clearing words.

john whelan

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Jul 6, 2016, 3:30:46 PM7/6/16
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Note to Egal, I find Harry's posts useful.  No one knows everything especially in the world of software.  Just because things do not work the way you would like them to doesn't mean the world will change to fit round you.

You have a solution buy a router with wifi, if you have a lap top with win 10 most can function as a wifi hot spot.  You may even find your PC has the ability.

Cheerio John

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Harry van der Wolf

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Jul 6, 2016, 5:11:59 PM7/6/16
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I do not know eveything. 
I lately posted a mail that was in hindsight not a "modest" post, at all.
I make errors as well.
The fact that you are annoyed is because I do not agree with you and you think you are right and I (arrogantly ?) claim you are not.

In this case, please provide evidence of you being right.
Asking it from you means I have to do that as well.

Please find attached a screenshot of the rawindexes of Canada and Brazil, both of 01.06
And of one piece of Canada and of Brazil from inside OsmAnd, also 01.06
I can easily provide more evidence.
Now please convince me with your evidence of you being right.

And as I already mentioned: The maps are generated at this very moment and are updated at this very moment (MapsGenerateFullMaps). The maps are  uploaded to the webserver every 15 minutes (MapsUploadGeneratedMaps).
When the full maps are ready, the roads_only maps will be generated.

So yes, the webserver is running slightly behind, but not more than 30 minutes, apart from the occasional error as I mentioned above.
Please also clean the cache from your web browser.

Harry

 


canada_osmand.png
BrazilOsmAnd.png
CanadaRaw.png
BarazilRaw.png
canada_manitoba_osmand.png

Harry van der Wolf

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Jul 6, 2016, 5:13:05 PM7/6/16
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By the way. The build server is here: http://builder.osmand.net:8080/view/Generate%20Maps/


Harry van der Wolf

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Jul 7, 2016, 2:53:12 AM7/7/16
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The listing script is indeed again not working correct. As mentioned in another post: this has happened before. Next to that both download servers (http://dl2.osmand.net:81/list.php and http://dl3.osmand.net:81/list.php) seem to be out of date and out of sync with regard to the listing. The map files themselves are up-to-date.
Now that almost all maps have been generated that becomes clear.
W.r.t. the roads_only maps. Since a couple of months that structure has been changed, both inside OsmAnd as well as on the web they have another download location: http://download.osmand.net/road-indexes/

For the full maps please try the script with the update parameter:  http://download.osmand.net/rawindexes?update=true
The "?update=true" parameter also works for both download servers.

Harry

Harry van der Wolf

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Jul 7, 2016, 2:56:54 AM7/7/16
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wiki files are now also on a different location. As they belong to the Osmand Plus version they are hidden for already quite some time from direct download.
A "feature request" could be to remove the old ones from the general listing.

Harry

Poutnik

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Jul 8, 2016, 1:10:39 PM7/8/16
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Well, you are wrong here, as most people abusing generalisms.
I know the real file addresses, using them in a script for map update
automation for my paid OSMAnd+,
but I support the Harry's approach.
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