Rendering of tracks with lifecycle prefix may need adjustments (abandoned/disused:highway=track)

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lukie80de

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Jun 30, 2017, 1:17:50 PM6/30/17
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Hello

I've noticed, that OSMAND renders abandoned tracks (abandoned:highway=track) with dim narrow brown dashes Example way on OSM. Disused tracks (disused:highway=track) however are not rendered. Furthermore, surface, smoothness and access is rendered for abandoned tracks but not for disused tracks. 

One can argue, if such tracks should be displayed at all (is good for orientation but track is not usable anyway) or if they should be displayed only as dashes without surface, smoothness and access properties to no to clutter the screen. But disused tracks should be visible too (or even solely), because disused tracks are more important than abandoned tracks. So is the current state of OSMAND a minor bug?

Thanks

(OSAMAND+, Android, version 2.6.5)

Kevin Kenny

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Jul 1, 2017, 3:41:53 PM7/1/17
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Is the 'abandoned' or 'disused' the only lifecycle stage on the object?

I have at least one place (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276425964)
recently where I've tagged

abandoned:highway=tertiary
highway=path
foot=yes
bicycle=no
motor_vehicle=no
smoothness=very_bad

for a road that suffered severe storm damage a few years back,
is blocked with Jersey barriers at both ends, but remains a public
right-of-way where it's lawful to walk (and it's entirely hike-able).
The county still intends to rebuild it, and there are still a couple
of highway number placards on it. A nearby highway=unclassified
is posted as a detour.

I'd imagine that OSMand should show such a beast as a walking
path, perhaps ignoring the 'abandoned' state entirely.

Just posting this to make sure that any fix for this problem doesn't
mess up the current state of an abandoned way.

Lukas

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Jul 1, 2017, 5:56:43 PM7/1/17
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I only used the two prefixes so far. I also used 'removed' but not for
tracks.

A good point. I agree that in your case the road should be kept visible
in OSMAND because an 'abandoned' road isn't automatically impassable or
can still be at least a path. So 'abandoned' ways/tracks should be kept
visible and 'disused' ways/tracks should be made visible.

A slight optical indication of the prefix would be good. But maybe it is
already well implemented in OSMAND.

jot ess

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Oct 20, 2019, 2:33:19 PM10/20/19
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Hello,
it seems in the two years since the beginning of this thread Osmand's behaviour has changed. I don't have examples for "abandoned" but I have set a couple of forestry tracks to "disused" and they are still visible. Although only in some of the map styles:
  • Osmand renders them,
  • Topo doesn't render them,
  • Offroad renders one of them but not the other one.

The one rendered by Offroad:
disused:highway=path
foot=yes
mtb:scale=0
name=Wieselschneise
surface=unpaved

The one not rendered by Offroad:
disused:highway=path
surface=grass

I will edit the former now and delete the mtb:scale (it is not cycable any more) and the foot:yes as this is generally unnecessary for forestry tracks. This way I hope to make the track invisible in Osmand without violating the rule "don't map for the renderer".

But anyway I would be interested in what are the rules Osmand follows to render or not render features. Could somebody please shed some light on this?

Best regards
Joachim
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