Re: stop POI selection to be shown on the map

[Bob Gambrel]

I have had (recently) the same cluttering. For example if I search for "shelter" all the nearby picnic shelters are shown. Which is great, but I can't find a way to stop showing them, except by doing a search for a different POI that is less cluttering. An easy way is needed to cancel the latest POI search. It must be quick and easy.

On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 6:29 AM Rob G <robca...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry but I cannot find a quick and easy way to stop a selection of POI to be shown (that I have selected beforehand via the function find nearbye) on the map, subsequently the map is cluttered and becomes unreadable. I may sound like a beginner but have used OsmAnd for quiete some time.....  Thanks

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[Peter Elderson]

Doesn't 

    Menu > Configure Map > POI overlay > OFF

do the job?

Peter Elderson

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[Rob G]

It is possible to touch the profile symbole in the upper left corner enteing in a menu where you can switch off POI but that seems a little cumbersone, must be a more intuitive way (I get lost in all the menus and settings)

[Peter Elderson]

You could add switch overlay OFF to your quick access menu button. If you have that button activated, of course. 

Vr gr Peter Elderson

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[Bob Gambrel]

Yes, that does work. I would never have thought to look at "Configure Map" to find the "off" button for something I did a "Search" for.

I will try to remember this convoluted approach to getting rid of the clutter (and thanks Peter for replying with the answer!).

As a user I would much prefer some sort of easy to reach "button" available from "Search". It could be as simple as "Cancel" or "Off" or "Clear" etc.

And thanks for the idea about using a quick action. I keep forgetting how handy that is. I may go that route!

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[Peter Elderson]

If you search you choose a type of POI, then you get a list. If you pick one item, that POI is shown temporarily on the map. 

If you don't pick one items but choose to display all, you switch this POI layer on for the profile. That is a Configure Map function for the profile; not part of the search, but available during a search. 

Map layer config is not temporary, so you need to switch it off yourself. 

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[Bob Gambrel]

Thank you for the more detailed information about the difference between selecting a single POI and all POIs that the search found.

From a user perspective IMHO, turning off something I found by searching for it IS part of search. I realize it is not considered that by developers. Configuring the map is something this user feels is a rare event ... configure the map to get it show the things I want in the way I want. When I am happy about the configuration, I would rarely go back to configuring the map. Searching for a POI (or set of them) is something I would want to do on an ad hoc basis. For example on a bike ride when the rain is about to come down, I might search for shelters. Once in a shelter and dry, I would want to turn off that search, easily.

Thanks for your time. Not sure if others agree with my user perspective.

Bob

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[Peter Elderson]

You could contact the developers. I think the UI could be improved, but for me functional improvements are more important, such as being able to follow OSM-routes (route relations for long distance hiking and cycling) without having to import a gpx. OsmAnd is being outsmarted and outdated in that respect by a daily increasing number of apps.

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[Bob Gambrel]

Agree with your priorities!

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[R.J. Grullemans]

Thanks yes I have but ideally the standard interface should provide this function I would think.

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[R.J. Grullemans]

I am a cyclist myself and have used iemand on long trips

I fail to understand what is the issue

I suspect you create a route in osm on your PC and want to use that route in osm and is that it?

Robert

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[Peter Elderson]

I think the issue was: if you search on the map for a particular type of POI, you get a list of matching POIs (search results) in order of distance. Choose one, then it is pinpointed on the map. If you move on, the pinpoint disappers.

On top of the search result list, you can activate the map layer for that type of POI. When you leave the search, the layer remains switched on. It's a layer, not a search result. The OP thought it was a search result, quod non.

You can switch it off in the map layer config. Toggling layers can be configured as an item under the quick action button.

In this case, I think the OP should probably not use the "show all" button, just pick a result from the search result list. 

If I had to make this better, I would add a function to display multiple search results, either by selecting them on the list or select all within a given distance.

Mvg Peter Elderson

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[Rob G]

yes I agree

[Bob Gambrel]

Peter's reply to RJ's comment is correct.

The reason I like to see ALL the POIs (which to me IS a search result even though it is not implemented as one) is that I want to see, say, all the shelters, then I will pick one based on my position, knowledge of bike-ability of ways to get to them, direction I want to advance, and possibly other whims. I will then navigate to one of them. It might NOT be the closest. Picking just one on the list (the closest one) may NOT be the one I decide to go to. 

Once I decide which one I want to go to, I can navigate there either by using the routing capability of OSMAND, or just using OSMAND as a map, or maybe just using the map "in my head". At some point I will want to declutter the map by removing all the POIs displayed (that I searched for). Ideally I would like to be able to do that by going back to "search" and clear the last search results (which in this case was ALL of the shelters)

My complaint (minor as it is) is simply that I can populate the map with a bunch of POIs (great!) via Search, but cannot clear the POIs by returning to Search.

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[Rob G]

this is my issue also  

[Peter Elderson]

I have opened an OsmAnd issue: https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/issues/12786

[Peter Elderson]

... And got an answer

"Did you try to use the 'x" in the top line of search result? "

That seems to do the job!

Vr gr Peter Elderson

Op do 16 sep. 2021 om 17:17 schreef Peter Elderson <peld...@gmail.com>:

[Bob Gambrel]

That works wonderfully. I am sure I tried that and since it works, and it exactly matches my use case, that is great. I believe the problem shows up in this scenario...

I do a search, finding and displaying all the shelters.

Then I close OSMAND and open it another time (right away in my small test). Then the Shelter search results are still displayed and Shelter is not in the search bar. So hitting x does not clear the results. 

I do have Shelter listed in the history, so I tried selecting it. Again x does not clear the results. If I reenter (by typing) Shelter and ask to show all results, then use the x, the shelters do go away (great!)

So there seems to be a very narrow case where the Search can't be cancelled (after closing the app!) Knowing that I can reenter the search (or another, say for Drinking Water) and that that will allow me to use the x is perfect.

I tried the use case again that I mentioned: search Shelter, show all on map, then pick one and navigate to it. Voila, all the other shelters disappear!

I think it is performing well and meets the use cases that make sense to me. I think Rob G should also try and verify that it works well for him.

Sorry for the poor testing of my use cases before joining into this complaint. I think I was just so used to all those shelters being displayed (annoyingly) that I did not carefully re-test my use case.

I have no idea why I closed OSMAND originally without trying to clear the Shelters, sighs.

Thank you Peter for entering the bug and hanging with me on this one! I DO LOVE OsmAnd!

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[Peter Elderson]

Testing... 

Search > Cafe and Restaurant > Show on map

The search bar is present and I can clear the search and the display with X

Search > Cafe an Restaurant > Show on Map 

Tap back arrow and you are back in the search. 

Tap arrow and you are back on the map, but the Cafe an Restaurant display is still on, and there is no X.

I think stopping OsmAnd cancels the search but not the display of a category.

With a name search, the same results except after  a restart the displayed results are cleared.

Mvg Peter Elderson

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[Rob G]

I would like to add does it make sense to show Cafe and Restaurant on the entire map of the country ? would it not be preferable to show them within a circle with a diameter say 10 km that can be increased? since in the majority of the cases one searches near the location where one is at that time. 

[Peter Elderson]

From the github issue I get that category search works as intended.

The "category" search SHOW <category> button switches the layer on for the profile you are using, so it displays the whole category on your map for the area shown.

I noticed that the search result list (ordered by distance) doesn't go on forever. I think there is a limit, but I don't know if it's by number of results or by distance or ...

I will close the issue. It was helpful, I learned a lot! 

If you want something to work differently, you can always open another github issue in https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/issues

Be prepared that what you think is a bug, usually turns out to be an unexpected feature!

Peter Elderson

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[Bob Gambrel]

Thank you again Peter for the time and interest you spent and used on this "bug". I learned a lot too!

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