Sunrise and Sunset times, and azimuth

[Ryan Trullinger]

I was wondering if Osmand has the capability to show sunrise and sunset times and the azimuth of these events? Even my 2001 Magellan Meridian GPS has this built in.

If Osmand does have this function, consider this a feature request.

[Poutnik]

Devices/applications serving different purposes have usually different feature set.

I suppose the Magellan is Outdoor dedicated GPS unit,
where it makes sense
than in primarily car navigation OSMAnd .

You may consider dedicated Sunrise/sunset related applications,
there is plenty of them, displaying also all 3 twilight times,
what I consider even more important than sunrise/sunset.

Dne 07/11/2015 v 15:47 Ryan Trullinger napsal(a):

I was wondering if Osmand has the capability to show sunrise and sunset times and the azimuth of these events? Even my 2001 Magellan Meridian GPS has this built in.

If Osmand does have this function, consider this a feature request.

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[Ryan Trullinger]

There is one I like but it won't work offline, at least I don't think it will.

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[Sander Deryckere]

Calculating sunset and sunrise offline would be handy for parsing opening-hours (which now have hard-coded values for both).

Though I have no idea how and where it would fit in the Osmand UI.

[Aceman444]

It seems OsmAnd already has support for sunset/sunrise (with unknown precision) for its day/night mode to render the main map. You can find it in the map settings. So maybe this same calculation could be used for the sunset/sunrise opening hours. Unless that calculation is totally fake (like hardcoded sunset at 7pm local time for the whole year).

Dňa sobota, 7. novembra 2015 17:38:31 UTC+1 Sanderd17 napísal(-a):

[Ryan Trullinger]

This morning I checked and the map changed from night mode to day mode exactly at sunrise, so that part is right. I am a landscape photographer by hobby, and there is an online app I use to see when and where the sun is supposed to rise and set and in what direction. The Photographers Ephimeris, is designed to do this very well but, the portable app needs me to start it, when I am online because Google maps is what it uses for a mapping system. If I don't do this I am without a map, because it doesn't do it offline, like Osmand does, this is the main reason I bought Osmand +.

[Josef Kufner]

Poutnik wrote, on 7.11.2015 16:16:
> Devices/applications serving different purposes have usually different
> feature set.
>
> I suppose the Magellan is Outdoor dedicated GPS unit,
> where it makes sense
> than in primarily car navigation OSMAnd .

Osmand is not only a car navigation. I see it as general purpose map
application with navigation. It works well for walking, skiing, sailing
and driving a car.

> You may consider dedicated Sunrise/sunset related applications,
> there is plenty of them, displaying also all 3 twilight times,
> what I consider even more important than sunrise/sunset.

Not really. Most of such apps are pure garbage and usually full of
advertising. And almost none of them are opensource.

Do you know about some really good app to show times of sun/moon raise
and set, which is open source?

[Poutnik]

Dne 07/11/2015 v 20:58 Josef Kufner napsal(a):

> Osmand is not only a car navigation. I see it as general purpose map
> application with navigation. It works well for walking, skiing,
> sailing and driving a car.

Primarily does not mean the only. But for walking, biking, Locusmap is
probably better featured choice.

>
> Not really. Most of such apps are pure garbage and usually full of
> advertising. And almost none of them are opensource.

Some of them are garbage, like many Android applications.
In fact, computing sun rise/set and twilight is not difficult,
if one has available time of local true noons over the year.

> Do you know about some really good app to show times of sun/moon
raise and set, which is open source?

No, but as I do not compile, it is not so important to me.

[P Wat]

In the light of recent evidence (Aceman & RyanT) it appears OsmAnd already "knows" sunrise & sunset.
Thus it would seem that it should be simple for a small option to be added to allow interested users to have those times displayed.
How about it Developers?
Paul W
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[Poutnik]

The question is rather how many OSMAnd users need/want it.
Ideas with marginal demand are implemented less often than frequently requested ones.

Dne 08/11/2015 v 11:12 P Wat napsal(a):

[Josef Kufner]

As I was thinking about this, I realized that sunset and sunrise times
are not the only interesting data that could be displayed. There is a
lot more. Take a look at screen settings. GPS info, track recording,
elevation above the sea level, parking plugin, current GPS time,
destination and waypoints, ...

And then we have the home screen, which is a bit unsettled.

What about adding panels with such informations to home screen? Then it
can be easily turned off and on as user wish (the mechanism to do so is
already there). And a button (optional) to show home screen could be
added to top left corner (next to layers button).

Some users could then turn off displaying some informations at HUD since
these would be one click away at home screen. So the map view would be
much cleaner.

This way the "home screen" would not be "home" anymore, it would become
more like "info screen".

What do you think?

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[Ryan Trullinger]

Sounds good Josef, I am sure there are lots of "user selectable" things the developers could do, they already offer optional screens and modes.

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[Jan Kipping]

My vote to get sun azimuth and elevation displayed. With adjustable time settings it helps a lot for taking great pictures.

[Nico W]

I do not see Osmand as a primarily car navigation app. Ok it will do that fine.
I see it much more as a outdoors activity map. No other map has so many hiking trails, bike routes and water maps as Osmand without relying on a cell signal.
I wish the developers would keep these users in mind.

[Poutnik]

In such a case, LocusMaps is much more outdoor oriented than OSMAnd.

Dne úterý 1. března 2016 14:21:48 UTC+1 Nico W napsal(a):

[Nico W]

Well, if you think about it that way then why are there selections for bicycling, pedestrians, skiing, boating. Some people are using it even for aviation and search-and-rescue.
These people all have paid for this app because it offers them a product that nobody else has. A phone-based system independent from cell phone signals that can tell you where you are and where you are going. In any mode of transportation.
If the Osmand team starts to neglect all those non-automobile users than that would be a very bad development.
I already see some of it, like not having a dialogue question anymore about moving the destination. My phone asks me if I want to delete a picture, or turn on airplane mode. Same should be with the destination marker. Make it as an option, like the destination pointer.

[Poutnik]

I do not speak for OSMAnd, being just an end user.

What I observe in recent months is
OSMAnd needs rather to focus on existing things to bring ( or return )
them to high quality,
than implement new and new features.

BTW, too many good features may kill the application .
As a ship aiming to all the shores will not reach any in good shape nor
time.

A user wanting useful feature is just one of possible viewing perspective.

The OSMAnd already became little bloated.
When running. Android frequently kills background applications on 1 GB
RAM device,
that run fine with LocusMap.


Dne 13/03/2016 v 15:46 Nico W napsal(a):

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