Hi Victor,
I don't see it yet. Latest master is 23-05. We will see it tomorrow?
Andre
displaying of multiple layers together (base + shading) is still not
implemented, or the setting is just well hidden?
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 18:56, Victor Shcherb <vic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes
>
> 2011/5/29 andre van atten <andrev...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Hi Victor,
>>
>> I don't see it yet. Latest master is 23-05. We will see it tomorrow?
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.. Tomorrow...
2011/5/29 Jind�ich Makovi�ka <mako...@gmail.com>
It's been committed this morning so feel free to try it out. Looks quite neat :)
2011/5/30 David White <dgkw...@gmail.com>:
> On 29/05/2011 22:17, andre van atten wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Following this thread with interest, but in a few words, what is it all
> about?
>
> thanks,
>
> David
>
> .. Tomorrow...
>
> 2011/5/29 Jindřich Makovička <mako...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> displaying of multiple layers together (base + shading) is still not
>> implemented, or the setting is just well hidden?
>>
>> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 18:56, Victor Shcherb <vic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Yes
>> >
>> > 2011/5/29 andre van atten <andrev...@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> Hi Victor,
>> >>
>> >> I don't see it yet. Latest master is 23-05. We will see it tomorrow?
>>
>> --
>> Jindrich Makovicka
>
>
>
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Jindrich Makovicka
indeed combine the details of cycle and vector maps. Had to go in
Parameters menu to set it though as it did not work via the layers menu
(next to "where am I" button)
Thanks
David
> 2011/5/30 David White<dgkw...@gmail.com>:
>> On 29/05/2011 22:17, andre van atten wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Following this thread with interest, but in a few words, what is it all
>> about?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> David
>>
>> .. Tomorrow...
>>
>> 2011/5/29 Jind�ich Makovi�ka<mako...@gmail.com>
IMHO the layer should be selected by default when one chooses it from "More..."
2011/5/30 David White <dgkw...@gmail.com>:
> On 30/05/2011 15:15, Jindřich Makovička wrote:
>>
>> About an ability to display another (semi-)transparent bitmap layer
>> over the base map, containing eq. hill shading or terrain contours.
>>
>> It's been committed this morning so feel free to try it out. Looks quite
>> neat :)
>
> indeed combine the details of cycle and vector maps. Had to go in Parameters
> menu to set it though as it did not work via the layers menu (next to "where
> am I" button)
>
> Thanks
>
> David
>>
>> 2011/5/30 David White<dgkw...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> On 29/05/2011 22:17, andre van atten wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Following this thread with interest, but in a few words, what is it all
>>> about?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> .. Tomorrow...
>>>
>>> 2011/5/29 Jindřich Makovička<mako...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> displaying of multiple layers together (base + shading) is still not
>>>> implemented, or the setting is just well hidden?
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 18:56, Victor Shcherb<vic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/5/29 andre van atten<andrev...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Victor,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see it yet. Latest master is 23-05. We will see it tomorrow?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jindrich Makovicka
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Jindrich Makovicka
Ok, I had some troubles also with selecting layers, the same issue twice now, because of the overlay layer in the latest release. To me, it works better from within settings menu. When using layer menu I had to exit and start again to refresh the new overlay setting. But as you know, all good things come with little steps, except the 20 million in the lottery ;-)
I will post some usability tweaking proposal today.
Andre
My Favorite Maps / Layers.
Goal is to give the user an interface to the layers that is simple, clear and flexible. It should be able to:
1. Create a shortlist of most used maps and layers. Maps can be:
a. Raster tile maps from www, (icon: raster, with "WWW" text imprinted) cached in tile subfolders. Could also be used in cached mode
b. Raster tile maps off-line, sqlitedb format (icon:raster with ‘SD’ text imprinted)
c. Vector files offline, obf file format ( icon: vector, with ‘SD’ text imprinted)
2. To add, change or remove layers or maps from the shortlist. Change means: replace one option with another layer of the same type, to keep the list short.
3. To change the order of the layers. Top layers are rendered last on top of the ones below. Each layers should be able to shift up and down. If possible with drag-handle. Otherwise with contextmenu <Move up> and <Move down>.
4. To change the opacity of raster and vector layers for each Map. Deafult 100%, context menu to set it to 0 – 100.
5. To add separate raster web tile layers, (0,1 or n), from internet XML list, icon: like 1a
6. To add separate raster sqlitedb offline on SD card, choose by filename. Add option, to download new ones from osmand google site, icon: raster with download arrow
7. To add separate vector offline Map on SD card, (0,1 or n),. Choose by separate filename (reduces rendering time and CPU), or add ALL as category (all vector maps). Add option, to download new ones from osmand google site, icon:vector with download arrow.
8. To add separate POI maps on SD card, (0,1 or n),. Choose by separate filename, or add ALL as category (all POI files, like it works now). Add option, to download new ones from osmand google site, icon: POI with download arrow.
9. To add layer Transport stops (or separate as above, if it cuts down render and search speed!). Remove or add to My layers as desired
10. To add layers OSM bugs, Favorites, GPX tracks and Yandex, Remove or add to My Layers as desired.
Interface
11. Title: My Favorite Layers
12. Draggable List with Type icon, Name, on/off checkbox, and […] contextmenu to move up, move down, remove form list, change map (of same type), alter opacity 0-100
13. 5 Separate buttons below:
a. to add raster tile form long list (cached xml tile list), icon like 1a), + Refresh button to refresh the list from osmand site). Attention: it should be able to cache the xml file off-line!, because it is also possible to change to cached tiles without www connection!
b. To add raster sqlitedb from SD. Icon: like 1b. Show list of all files of that type in OSM folder, and [+ download] button to add from osmand site, icon: like 6
c. To add vector odb file from SD. Icon: like 1c. Show list of all files of that type in OSM folder, and [+ download] button to add vector file from osmand site, icon: like 7)
d. POI button, like it works now, later maybe reduce search time to select which ones to load. And [+ download] button to add from osmand site, icon: like 8
e. [Other.], to add Transport stops, OSM bugs, Favorites, GPX tracks and Yandex, each one with nice icon.
Wow,
Astonishing, I use Netherlands Osm vector and hillshade map as overlay. Then go to Vaals
Wow!
Andre
2011/5/31 RogerE <roge...@gmail.com>:
Hi Andre and allI want to explain my vision how it can be done.1. OsmAnd is going to support only 3 layers underlay, main and overlay. I think it would be enough for most purposes. Showing more than 3 layer will ceratainly cause OutOfMemoryException.
2. I want to keep separate the list of tracked map on device and installed. It means that you first need to install some maps. That's why dialog when you can select multiple maps mean only intention to install not to use.
3. I agree there is no way to uninstall maps from application but you can simply remove these folders. I'm thinking to create activity that will show every index and probably raster maps that are used. In that activity user can enable/disable some indexes and review indexes that are now used!
4. I don't want that user will have different obf files for one area. Actually obf files can be combined in one. I think user should have one obf file for area and use different rendering by desire.
5. I'm still thinking how to make layers persistent in settings. Now all layers are saved in settings as global (not dependent to profile) so if you change profile layears are stayed as well as you restart application. Now there is bug with GPX layers that should be listed.
see http://beanshell.org/manual/quickstart.html#Download_and_Run_BeanShell
at the end of the page, Calling BeanShell From Your Application
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Jindrich Makovicka
P.S. : I replace text "More.." to "Install more..." to make obvious
that raster sources are not available in application by default you
should install them or just copy to tiles folder.
P.P.S. : long weekends coming !!! I'm going to France, probably would
like visit Luxembourgh as well :) So I will try to be in touch. But
mostly I will be occuppied with OsmAnd testing in real conditions :)
Best Regards,
Hi Victor,
I understand. Code is indeed very flexible, but someone has to write it ;-)
The new version is great! Osmand is getting to be a killer app, and I think we share the same vision. My proposal about the interface is not criticism or big discussion. To see big discussions, you have to join OSM talk lists, haha ;-)
I know very well how OsmAnd works. Other users might have more difficulty with it, and I like to help you with designing and testing. But you must not do it all at one time now. There should be points to improve in version 12 for release in 2015 ;-)
Luxembourg is great. I have been there several times. Even then you still keep working, testing OsmAnd in real life! To take an extra battery pack with you is not a bad idea. You should download hillshade layer in sqlitedb too. Looks marvelous there as overlay, hills everywhere, ideal for hiking and biking. Ah, wish I could join you...
Have a nice holiday!
PS. I can't find setting for opacity. Where can I find it in settings?
Andre
I think we are in deeper in discussion :)
I would also prefer very
flexible way because it is rather simple to implement. You know in the
code I have the best flexibility : I can put on map so many layers as
I want with different transparency and with different order. The
problem I would need write the code.
1. Please take a look at last night build : map with 3 layers not
taking into account interacting layers. And also transparency is
implemented (in settings) !!! That was my vision.
2. With activity that allows you configure usage and see information
about current maps/indexes we agree. Will not discuss it later. That
should be done, I feel it as well.
3. In application (you are right) there are some interactive layers :
POI, Transport, Osm bugs, GPX layer, Favorites. Something wrong with
them ? :) With UI? Yes you are right user can not change order of
these predefined layers but they not going to be intersected, they are
showing just lines and points.
4. In application there are more top layers :) Buttons layer,
information layer (speed, distance), route layer.
P.S. : I replace text "More.." to "Install more..." to make obvious
that raster sources are not available in application by default you
should install them or just copy to tiles folder.
P.P.S. : long weekends coming !!! I'm going to France, probably would
like visit Luxembourgh as well :) So I will try to be in touch. But
mostly I will be occuppied with OsmAnd testing in real conditions :)
Best Regards,
Victor
Have a nice holiday,
Andre