Osmand tile sources management

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Victor Shcherb

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May 29, 2011, 7:35:37 AM5/29/11
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Hi everyone

I want to represent new way how tile sources will be provided. Take a look  at xml http://download.osmand.net/tile_sources.php.
Now application will not store all the tile sources only that user installed. So user will choose what tile sources he wants to be displayed in list. Installation list will be everytime downloaded from internet.

Example of Tile source : 
   <tile_source name="HikeBikeMap DE" url_template="http://toolserver.org/tiles/hikebike/{0}/{1}/{2}.png" ext=".png" min_zoom="1" max_zoom="17" tile_size="256" img_density="8" avg_img_size="18000"/>

Please provide reasonable tile sources in that format even if the are localized for one region. Put the answers in that mail list :)

Best Regards,
Victor

andre van atten

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May 29, 2011, 1:53:08 PM5/29/11
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Hi Victor,
 
Wow. Great you are implementing this, I remember we discussed it early on the group. Is it allready possible to add WMS layers?? Or is it experimental? I can help you with some examples if you want.
I have some tile definitions here, the OpenFietskaart (Netherlands and Belgium, Luxembourg) and Wanderreitkarte (Germany, Netherlands, Alps, Italy and some more) consists of 3 layers each:
(The hillshade map is semi-transparent and shows shades and lines both! , nice in relation to discussion about contour lines)
 
   <tile_source name="ÖPNV Transit" url_template="http://tile.xn--pnvkarte-m4a.de/tilegen/{0}/{1}/{2}.png" ext=".png" min_zoom="1" max_zoom="18" tile_size="256" img_density="16" avg_img_size="18000"/> 
   <tile_source name="OpenCycleMap" url_template="http://c.tile.opencyclemap.org/cycle/{0}/{1}/{2}.png" ext=".png" min_zoom="1" max_zoom="18" tile_size="256" img_density="16" avg_img_size="18000"/>
 
   <tile_source name="OpenFietskaart" url_template="http://overlay.openstreetmap.nl/openfietskaart-overlay/{0}/{1}/{2}.png" ext=".png" min_zoom="7" max_zoom="18" tile_size="256" img_density="16" avg_img_size="18000"/>
   <tile_source name="OpenFietskaartBaseLayer" url_template="http://overlay.openstreetmap.nl/basemap/{0}/{1}/{2}.png" ext=".png" min_zoom="1" max_zoom="18" tile_size="256" img_density="16" avg_img_size="18000"/>
   <tile_source name="OpenFietskaartRoads" url_template="http://overlay.openstreetmap.nl/roads/{0}/{1}/{2}.png" ext=".png" min_zoom="7" max_zoom="18" tile_size="256" img_density="16" avg_img_size="18000"/> 
   <tile_source name="Wanderreitkarte Topo" url_template="http://www.wanderreitkarte.de/topo/{0}/{1}/{2}.png" ext=".png" min_zoom="1" max_zoom="18" tile_size="256" img_density="16" avg_img_size="18000"/>
   <tile_source name="Wanderreitkarte HillShade" url_template="http://www.wanderreitkarte.de/hills/{0}/{1}/{2}.png" ext=".png" min_zoom="8" max_zoom="18" tile_size="256" img_density="16" avg_img_size="18000"/>
   <tile_source name="Wanderreitkarte BaseLayer" url_template="http://www.wanderreitkarte.de/base/{0}/{1}/{2}.png" ext=".png" min_zoom="1" max_zoom="18" tile_size="256" img_density="16" avg_img_size="18000"/>
 

Regards,
 
Andre



2011/5/29 Victor Shcherb <vic...@gmail.com>

Victor Shcherb

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May 29, 2011, 2:34:10 PM5/29/11
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These resources are added :)
You can check them with latest master Osmand build and OsmAndMapCreator.

Best Regards,
Victor

2011/5/29 andre van atten <andrev...@gmail.com>

andre van atten

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Hi Victor,

I don't see it yet. Latest master is 23-05. We will see it tomorrow?

Andre

Op 29 mei 2011 20:34 schreef "Victor Shcherb" <vic...@gmail.com> het volgende:

> These resources are added :)
> You can check them with latest master Osmand build and OsmAndMapCreator.
>
> Best Regards,
> Victor
>
> 2011/5/29 andre van atten <andrev...@gmail.com>
>
>> Hi Victor,
>>
>> Wow. Great you are implementing this, I remember we discussed it early on
>> the group. Is it allready possible to add WMS layers?? Or is it
>> experimental? I can help you with some examples if you want.
>> I have some tile definitions here, the OpenFietskaart (Netherlands and
>> Belgium, Luxembourg) and Wanderreitkarte (Germany, Netherlands, Alps, Italy
>> and some more) consists of 3 layers each:
>> (The hillshade map is semi-transparent and shows shades and lines both! ,
>> nice in relation to discussion about contour lines)
>>
>> <tile_source name="ÖPNV Transit" url_template="

Victor Shcherb

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May 29, 2011, 2:56:20 PM5/29/11
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Yes

Jindřich Makovička

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May 29, 2011, 4:06:30 PM5/29/11
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Hi,

displaying of multiple layers together (base + shading) is still not
implemented, or the setting is just well hidden?

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 18:56, Victor Shcherb <vic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes
>
> 2011/5/29 andre van atten <andrev...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Hi Victor,
>>
>> I don't see it yet. Latest master is 23-05. We will see it tomorrow?

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Victor Shcherb

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May 29, 2011, 4:13:57 PM5/29/11
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Not implemented :)
I'm working on that.

andre van atten

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May 29, 2011, 4:17:25 PM5/29/11
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.. Tomorrow...

2011/5/29 Jindřich Makovička <mako...@gmail.com>

David White

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On 29/05/2011 22:17, andre van atten wrote:
Hi all,

Following this thread with interest, but in a few words, what is it all about?

thanks,

David
.. Tomorrow...

2011/5/29 Jind�ich Makovi�ka <mako...@gmail.com>

Jindřich Makovička

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May 30, 2011, 9:15:23 AM5/30/11
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About an ability to display another (semi-)transparent bitmap layer
over the base map, containing eq. hill shading or terrain contours.

It's been committed this morning so feel free to try it out. Looks quite neat :)

2011/5/30 David White <dgkw...@gmail.com>:


> On 29/05/2011 22:17, andre van atten wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Following this thread with interest, but in a few words, what is it all
> about?
>
> thanks,
>
> David
>
> .. Tomorrow...
>

> 2011/5/29 Jindřich Makovička <mako...@gmail.com>


>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> displaying of multiple layers together (base + shading) is still not
>> implemented, or the setting is just well hidden?
>>
>> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 18:56, Victor Shcherb <vic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Yes
>> >
>> > 2011/5/29 andre van atten <andrev...@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> Hi Victor,
>> >>
>> >> I don't see it yet. Latest master is 23-05. We will see it tomorrow?
>>
>> --
>> Jindrich Makovicka
>
>
>

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David White

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May 30, 2011, 9:55:50 AM5/30/11
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On 30/05/2011 15:15, Jind�ich Makovi�ka wrote:
> About an ability to display another (semi-)transparent bitmap layer
> over the base map, containing eq. hill shading or terrain contours.
>
> It's been committed this morning so feel free to try it out. Looks quite neat :)

indeed combine the details of cycle and vector maps. Had to go in
Parameters menu to set it though as it did not work via the layers menu
(next to "where am I" button)

Thanks

David


> 2011/5/30 David White<dgkw...@gmail.com>:
>> On 29/05/2011 22:17, andre van atten wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Following this thread with interest, but in a few words, what is it all
>> about?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> David
>>
>> .. Tomorrow...
>>

>> 2011/5/29 Jind�ich Makovi�ka<mako...@gmail.com>

Jindřich Makovička

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May 30, 2011, 10:02:57 AM5/30/11
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The layer menu worked for me, but the usability needs some tweaking -
what confused me first time is that the layer has to be selected
twice. First from the "More..." submenu, and then again from the upper
level menu.

IMHO the layer should be selected by default when one chooses it from "More..."

2011/5/30 David White <dgkw...@gmail.com>:


> On 30/05/2011 15:15, Jindřich Makovička wrote:
>>
>> About an ability to display another (semi-)transparent bitmap layer
>> over the base map, containing eq. hill shading or terrain contours.
>>
>> It's been committed this morning so feel free to try it out. Looks quite
>> neat :)
>
> indeed combine the details of cycle and vector maps. Had to go in Parameters
> menu to set it though as it did not work via the layers menu (next to "where
> am I" button)
>
> Thanks
>
> David
>>
>> 2011/5/30 David White<dgkw...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> On 29/05/2011 22:17, andre van atten wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Following this thread with interest, but in a few words, what is it all
>>> about?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> .. Tomorrow...
>>>

>>> 2011/5/29 Jindřich Makovička<mako...@gmail.com>


>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> displaying of multiple layers together (base + shading) is still not
>>>> implemented, or the setting is just well hidden?
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 18:56, Victor Shcherb<vic...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/5/29 andre van atten<andrev...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Victor,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see it yet. Latest master is 23-05. We will see it tomorrow?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jindrich Makovicka
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Jindrich Makovicka

andre van atten

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May 31, 2011, 1:43:54 AM5/31/11
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Ok, I had some troubles also with selecting layers, the same issue twice now, because of the overlay layer in the latest release. To me, it works better from within settings menu. When using layer menu I had to exit and start again to refresh the new overlay setting. But as you know, all good things come with little steps, except the 20 million in the lottery ;-)
I will post some usability tweaking proposal today.

Andre

Op 30 mei 2011 16:02 schreef "Jindřich Makovička" <mako...@gmail.com> het volgende:

andre van atten

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Hi all,
 
So this is my proposal about the usability tweak. Because I know Victor, that you do 99% of the hard work, I think you might have your own picture in mind, but this is just a proposal. It is however a rather timeconsuming interface design work-over. I'd like some response about if any of you likes the proposal or not, if there are some better ideas, and if this is reasonable and if it is feasable.
 
 

My Favorite Maps / Layers.

 

Goal is to give the user an interface to the layers that is simple, clear and flexible.  It should be able to:

 

1.       Create a shortlist of most used maps and layers. Maps can be:

a.       Raster tile maps from www, (icon: raster, with "WWW" text imprinted) cached in tile subfolders. Could also be used in cached mode

b.      Raster tile maps off-line, sqlitedb format (icon:raster with ‘SD’ text imprinted)

c.       Vector files offline, obf file format ( icon: vector, with ‘SD’ text imprinted)

2.       To add, change or remove layers or maps from the shortlist. Change means: replace one option with another layer of the same type, to keep the list short.

3.       To change the order of the layers. Top layers are rendered last on top of the ones below. Each layers should be able to shift up and down. If possible with drag-handle. Otherwise with contextmenu <Move up> and <Move down>.

4.       To change the opacity of raster and vector layers for each Map. Deafult 100%, context menu to set it to 0 – 100.

5.       To add separate raster web tile layers, (0,1 or n), from internet XML list, icon: like 1a

6.       To add separate raster sqlitedb offline on SD card, choose by filename. Add option, to download new ones from osmand google site, icon: raster with download arrow

7.       To add separate vector offline Map on SD card, (0,1 or n),. Choose by separate filename (reduces rendering time and CPU), or add ALL as category (all vector maps).   Add option, to download new ones from osmand google site, icon:vector with download arrow.

8.       To add separate POI maps on SD card, (0,1 or n),. Choose by separate filename, or add ALL as category (all POI files, like it works now).  Add option, to download new ones from osmand google site, icon: POI with download arrow.

9.       To add layer Transport stops (or separate as above, if it cuts down render and search speed!). Remove or add to My layers as desired

10.   To add layers OSM bugs, Favorites, GPX tracks and Yandex, Remove or add to My Layers as desired.

 

Interface

 

  

11.   Title: My Favorite Layers

12.   Draggable List with Type icon, Name, on/off checkbox, and […] contextmenu to move up, move down, remove form list, change map (of same type), alter opacity 0-100

13.   5 Separate buttons below:

a.        to add raster tile form long list (cached xml tile list), icon like 1a), + Refresh button to refresh the list from osmand site). Attention: it should be able to cache the xml file off-line!, because it is also possible to change to cached tiles without www connection!

b.      To add raster sqlitedb from SD. Icon: like 1b. Show list of all files of that type in OSM folder, and [+ download] button to add from osmand site, icon: like 6 

c.       To add vector odb file from SD. Icon: like 1c. Show list of all files of that type in OSM folder, and [+ download] button to add vector file from osmand site, icon: like 7)

d.      POI button, like it works now, later maybe reduce search time to select which ones to load. And [+ download] button to add from osmand site, icon: like 8 

e.      [Other.], to add Transport stops,  OSM bugs, Favorites, GPX tracks and Yandex, each one with nice icon.



2011/5/31 andre van atten <andrev...@gmail.com>

andre van atten

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May 31, 2011, 2:27:44 AM5/31/11
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Wow,

Astonishing, I use Netherlands Osm vector and hillshade map as overlay. Then go to Vaals

Wow!

Andre

Op 29 mei 2011 22:13 schreef "Victor Shcherb" <vic...@gmail.com> het volgende:

RogerE

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Great work!

I would also suggest to include country codes in map description for
regional maps, something like this:
"Eniro Aerial NO SE DK"

It would also be nice to be able to define maps in a local xml file -
this will make it easy to test out new maps.

Some more maps to include:
https://github.com/rogere66/Osmand/commit/fe4a1eb4ddf28dfc72f840c8ba5b04cd0ee3c67b

Regards,
Roger

On May 29, 1:35 pm, Victor Shcherb <vics...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone
>
> I want to represent new way how tile sources will be provided. Take a look
>  at xmlhttp://download.osmand.net/tile_sources.php.

Victor Shcherb

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You can define local .metainfo file easily. Take a look at folders on SD card and find .metainfo in every tile source.
.Metainfo consists of the same(!) attributes as xml !
Example :
[url_template]
....
[min_zoom]
....

So creating that metainfo is rather the same as line in xml file. Just create folder and put that file and try it :)

2011/5/31 RogerE <roge...@gmail.com>

Victor Shcherb

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May 31, 2011, 6:17:07 AM5/31/11
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Hi Andre and all

I want to explain my vision how it can be done.
1. OsmAnd is going to support only 3 layers underlay, main and overlay. I think it would be enough for most purposes. Showing more than 3 layer will ceratainly cause OutOfMemoryException. 
2. I want to keep separate the list of tracked map on device and installed. It means that you first need to install some maps. That's why dialog when you can select multiple maps mean only intention to install not to use.
3. I agree there is no way to uninstall maps from application but you can simply remove these folders. I'm thinking to create activity that will show every index and probably raster maps that are used. In that activity user can enable/disable some indexes and review indexes that are now used!
4. I don't want that user will have different obf files for one area. Actually obf files can be combined in one. I think user should have one obf file for area and use different rendering by desire.
5. I'm still thinking how to make layers persistent in settings. Now all layers are saved in settings as global (not dependent to profile) so if you change profile layears are stayed as well as you restart application. Now there is bug with GPX layers that should be listed.

Probably I miss something from your review but I hope we can find the best to do it :)
BTW Yandex Traffic will be moved to specific layer that should be installed.

Victor

RogerE

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Thanks for quick response Victor.
I tested out the .metainfo file and have now successfully included the
Statkart maps! The Eniro maps doesn't work however, since it use a non-
standard y address calculation:
y = (1 << zoom) - 1 - y

Do you see any possibility to include this type of info in
the .metainfo/xml map definitions? Or will this need to be handled
individually in the code as currently done with Microsoft, Cykloatlas
etc.?

Regards,
Roger

On May 31, 9:47 am, Victor Shcherb <vics...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You can define local .metainfo file easily. Take a look at folders on SD
> card and find .metainfo in every tile source.
> .Metainfo consists of the same(!) attributes as xml !
> Example :
> [url_template]
> ....
> [min_zoom]
> ....
>
> So creating that metainfo is rather the same as line in xml file. Just
> create folder and put that file and try it :)
>
> 2011/5/31 RogerE <roger....@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> > Great work!
>
> > I would also suggest to include country codes in map description for
> > regional maps, something like this:
> > "Eniro Aerial NO SE DK"
>
> > It would also be nice to be able to define maps in a local xml file -
> > this will make it easy to test out new maps.
>
> > Some more maps to include:
>
> >https://github.com/rogere66/Osmand/commit/fe4a1eb4ddf28dfc72f840c8ba5...

Victor Shcherb

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May 31, 2011, 4:15:28 PM5/31/11
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Yes it should be handled in the code :(

2011/5/31 RogerE <roge...@gmail.com>:

andre van atten

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Hi Victor,
 
My proposal is also valid when only using 3 layers at the same time. So even if you have 8 different layers or maps in your hotlist, does not mean you have to show them all. So I think we doe agree about a lot of things, but use different words or arguments. The main goal is a simple clear and lexible interface. Today it is hard to say what kind of levels you have installed, and there is a long list of installed layers and installed sqlitedb files (I have about 30), (But only one entry for vector files). When I am in Luxembourg Osmand can be much faster because it does not have to take Germany and France into account when searching and rendering. I dont want to delete them from my device, but only activate and see them when I need them ;-)
 
I think I should create a user interface picture of what I think about, it would made things clear in a second. And users would like it, sure, because it is clear, simple and conceptual more easy to understand the rich possibilties of Osmand. 

2011/5/31 Victor Shcherb <vic...@gmail.com>

Hi Andre and all

I want to explain my vision how it can be done.
1. OsmAnd is going to support only 3 layers underlay, main and overlay. I think it would be enough for most purposes. Showing more than 3 layer will ceratainly cause OutOfMemoryException. 
 
I agree, but even one vector layer of France or Germany and zooming ou to level 9 will crash OsmAnd; people will learn what is possible and no, because if you ask to much first your device becomes slow slow slow and crashes then. And even the you support more levels now: a map, POI , transport stops, OSM bugs, Favorites, GPX tracks and Yandex traffic. That is 7 ! So why cut down to 3 ?
I think 3 maps is indeed the maximum. But talking about OpenFietsKaart and WanderReitKarte: they constists of a bundle of three separate layers. It would be nice to show vector map on top of raster. Some vector maps have "holes" where no polygons are, others could maybe made transparent with a setting 
 .
2. I want to keep separate the list of tracked map on device and installed. It means that you first need to install some maps. That's why dialog when you can select multiple maps mean only intention to install not to use.
 
What do you meen with tracked map? The hotlist are ALL installed maps. There are some separate buttons to insert other installed maps. If you choose the sqitedb raster button, it shows the installed sqlitedb files, AND an extra download button to get precompiled nice maps from Osmand resources on GoogleCode. The same for vector Maps. So we agree
 
3. I agree there is no way to uninstall maps from application but you can simply remove these folders. I'm thinking to create activity that will show every index and probably raster maps that are used. In that activity user can enable/disable some indexes and review indexes that are now used!
 
I dont mind about deleting from without OsmAnd. If I want I know how to do that. But I like your proposal very much to be able to enable/disable some of them. As I said before, it has speed benifits.
 
4. I don't want that user will have different obf files for one area. Actually obf files can be combined in one. I think user should have one obf file for area and use different rendering by desire.
 
That is what yoy dont want, but users want flexibility. Some will create their own maps, because every shape or KML file ca be converted to OSM using QGIS and GPSBAbel as described in other posts. People will create their own POI files too, and there can be many userpoi files in your region, but you dont need them all at the same moment. Some vector maps can be special user maps that are created outside the OSM community, but by making use of the OSM format. So if you are archeologic person, you can map polygon sites and places and create your own maps. But as you described in point 3, you allready agree that is handsome to be able no enable/disable indexes, POI indexes and raster db's 
 
5. I'm still thinking how to make layers persistent in settings. Now all layers are saved in settings as global (not dependent to profile) so if you change profile layears are stayed as well as you restart application. Now there is bug with GPX layers that should be listed.
 
I dont understand "profile". Do you mean applicatin Mode (bike, Car and Pedestrian) ? I dont mind to have one global setting file. Of course: 2 or more settings files with custom layer and maps config would be nice too, but for me not high priority..

Jindřich Makovička

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How about embedding BeanShell for scripting? It has been reported to
work on Android. It's 140kB more, but maybe it could be used for other
cool features in the future, than just URL generation.

see http://beanshell.org/manual/quickstart.html#Download_and_Run_BeanShell

at the end of the page, Calling BeanShell From Your Application

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Victor Shcherb

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May 31, 2011, 6:44:54 PM5/31/11
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Hi Andre
I think we are in deeper in discussion :) I would also prefer very
flexible way because it is rather simple to implement. You know in the
code I have the best flexibility : I can put on map so many layers as
I want with different transparency and with different order. The
problem I would need write the code.
1. Please take a look at last night build : map with 3 layers not
taking into account interacting layers. And also transparency is
implemented (in settings) !!! That was my vision.
2. With activity that allows you configure usage and see information
about current maps/indexes we agree. Will not discuss it later. That
should be done, I feel it as well.
3. In application (you are right) there are some interactive layers :
POI, Transport, Osm bugs, GPX layer, Favorites. Something wrong with
them ? :) With UI? Yes you are right user can not change order of
these predefined layers but they not going to be intersected, they are
showing just lines and points.
4. In application there are more top layers :) Buttons layer,
information layer (speed, distance), route layer.

P.S. : I replace text "More.." to "Install more..." to make obvious
that raster sources are not available in application by default you
should install them or just copy to tiles folder.
P.P.S. : long weekends coming !!! I'm going to France, probably would
like visit Luxembourgh as well :) So I will try to be in touch. But
mostly I will be occuppied with OsmAnd testing in real conditions :)

Best Regards,

andre van atten

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Hi Victor,

I understand. Code is indeed very flexible, but someone has to write it ;-)
The new version is great! Osmand is getting to be a killer app, and I think we share the same vision. My proposal about the interface is not criticism or big discussion. To see big discussions, you have to join OSM talk lists, haha ;-)
I know very well how OsmAnd works. Other users might have more difficulty with it, and I like to help you with designing and testing. But you must not do it all at one time now. There should be points to improve in version 12 for release in 2015 ;-)
Luxembourg is great. I have been there several times. Even then you still keep working, testing OsmAnd in real life! To take an extra battery pack with you is not a bad idea.  You should download hillshade layer in sqlitedb too. Looks marvelous there as overlay, hills everywhere, ideal for hiking and biking. Ah, wish I could join you...

Have a nice holiday!

PS. I can't find setting for opacity. Where can I find it in settings?

Andre

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andre van atten

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Hi Victor,
 
The new release is great. I did not manage to find the opacity setting, do I overlook it? See my comments between the lines.
Even when you go on holidays you can't let go, and still you will be testing OsmAnd in real life. Thats the spirit, and a fun way to do !  

2011/6/1 Victor Shcherb <vic...@gmail.com>
Hi Andre

I think we are in deeper in discussion :)
 
Well, if you want to see big discussions, you have to join OSM talk lists, haha ;-) I think we share the most ideas in common. I try to help you with testing, improvements and interface proposal. You dont have to fix it al att the same time though, don't give everythig away at once . You should leave some issues to improve for release 12 in 2015 ;-)
 
I would also prefer very
flexible way because it is rather simple to implement. You know in the
code I have the best flexibility : I can put on map so many layers as
I want with different transparency and with different order. The
problem I would need write the code.
 
I see your point. Code is very flexible, but someone have to write it ;-) And you did your share..
 
1. Please take a look at last night build : map with 3 layers not
taking into account interacting layers. And also transparency is
implemented (in settings) !!! That was my vision.
 
We have the same vison! Can't find the transparancy setting though
 
2. With activity that allows you configure usage and see information
about current maps/indexes we agree. Will not discuss it later. That
should be done, I feel it as well.
 
 I agree
 
3. In application (you are right) there are some interactive layers :
POI, Transport, Osm bugs, GPX layer, Favorites. Something wrong with
them ? :) With UI? Yes you are right user can not change order of
these predefined layers but they not going to be intersected, they are
showing just lines and points.
 
There is nothing wrong with the layers and combining them all together (except memory usage). But the interface will grow in such a long list with all types together. "My layers" is user preference, and users see more clearly which type they choose.
 
4. In application there are more top layers :) Buttons layer,
information layer (speed, distance), route layer.

P.S. : I replace text "More.." to "Install more..." to make obvious
that raster sources are not available in application by default you
should install them or just copy to tiles folder.
 
In fact you do not install raster source, but raster source definition. In case of raster sqlitedb files you install the fysically on SD card. Do users see the difference?
 
P.P.S. : long weekends coming !!! I'm going to France, probably would
like visit Luxembourgh as well :) So I will try to be in touch. But
mostly I will be occuppied with OsmAnd testing in real conditions :)
 
Wow. I have been there several times and it is beautifull. Take another battery pack with you, is not a bad idea. And download some hillshade in sqlitedb file (lot of hills there, ideal for hiking and biking!), shut down internet and use flight mode, else you find you yourselve back in the Netherlands with a 1000 euro billing in your mailbox ;-) 

Best Regards,
Victor
 
 
Have a nice holiday,
Andre
 
 
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